L.A. has the worst traffic in America anytime of the year, rain or shine.

So it should come as no surprise that the folks at traffic app firm Inrix have concluded that “Los Angeles tops the list of the country’s most congested cities this Thanksgiving season,” according to a statement.

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The worst portion of the nightmare, of course, will be Wednesday afternoon before Turkey Day, between 3 and 5 p.m., says Inrix.


The worst freeways on that day will include the eastbound 91, which will see a 37 minute delay compared to normal conditions for that time; the eastbound 10 from downtown to the San Gabriel Valley (35 extra minutes); the 5 from East L.A. toward the Orange County line (35 extra minutes); and the 405 from LAX to the Sepulveda Pass (30 extra minutes).

Overall, road trips out of town will take more than a third longer than usual, says Inrix.

The firm looked at its Thanksgiving travel data from 2010, 2011 and 2012 and compared it to “current traffic trends to predict what drivers might expect over the upcoming Thanksgiving getaway,” it says.

Don't expect things to be much better on Black Friday, either:

Credit: Inrix

Credit: Inrix

It will take drivers nearly twice as long (71 percent longer) to travel on roads near major shopping centers. For example, traffic surrounding the Del Amo Fashion Center in Torrance, CA will be heaviest between 11:00 a.m. – 2:00 p.m., and shoppers should expect their trips to take more than twice as long during this period.

But why, you ask as you look up at the skies—why!

Well, that brings up the good news.

Gas is so cheap—hovering near $3 a gallon at some stations—that more of you are deciding to hit the road. Plus, the extra cash in your pocket means more money for shopping which means … more traffic on Black Friday.

See also: Should You Thank Fracking For This Crazy, Sub-$3 Gas in L.A?

Inrix traffic analyst Jim Bak:

More people will be traveling this year thanks to a growing economy combined with the lowest gas prices we’ve seen in years. We recommend travelers leave early or leave late to avoid the worst traffic. However, if accidents or a major storm hit, all bets are off.

Be safe out there.

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