Both UCLA and USC did well in a Wall Street Journal survey of 480 companies that hired 43,000 bachelor's degree graduates in the past year. The Journal asked the employers to rank the schools based — presumably — on the quality of the graduates. (Sorry, can't find it online; it's in today's print edition.)

UCLA finished 17th, and USC 24th.

UCLA was 7th in finance, 9th in accounting, 17th in business and 19th in engineering. UCLA tuition is now $10,781 for in-state students and $33,600 out-of-state.

The Journal doesn't note specific degree rankings for USC, which is now $41,172.

The top schools are Penn State, Texas A&M, University of Illinois, Purdue, Arizona State, University of Michigan, Georgia Tech, University of Maryland, University of Florida and Carnegie Mellon.

We have to wonder if some top schools didn't respond, or if the spoiled little brats of the Ivy League aren't good employees when they go out into the working world.

Either way, good for the Bruins and Trojans.

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