The Big Business of Fake Fans

Gaming social media is common in the music industry -- but success isn't as easy as buying a million YouTube views

It's also a bad investment. "If you're a new artist with nothing, you have no fans, no followers, you're an idiot if you go and buy 10,000 views for your first music video," PR consultant Smotherman says.

The same is true of buying a Facebook ad to attract new "likes." Even if the band is operating with good intentions, hoping to find actual fans, casting too wide a net can be wildly problematic.

Eugene, Ore., metal band Black Hare learned that lesson earlier this year. After Facebook introduced its controversial new "promoted posts," Black Hare bought a few. Suddenly, the band had more than 65,000 fans, up from an estimated 4,000.

Black Hare
PHOTO BY TRACY DAKEN
Black Hare

The problem is that the fans seemed to come out of nowhere — or, more precisely, Egypt. "We were trying to push out show details," Black Hare's Tracy Daken says, but the band's Egyptian fan base had no interest in seeing shows in Oregon. Show info is buried by what Daken estimates are at least 45,000 fake fans. Facebook won't allow the band to delete individual likes, putting Black Hare in a trap: Thanks to the site's complicated algorithms, which allow only a percentage of fans to see any given post on their newsfeed, fewer legitimate Black Hare supporters will see the band's posts unless the band keep paying Facebook to promote them.

Black Hare have refused to do so. "We are probably going to get a new page by the end of the year to solve it," Daken says.

Red Seas Fire, a British prog-rock band, had similar problems after purchasing a promoted post, guitarist Peter Graves says.

"We ended up having to block the countries where the 'likes' seemed to be coming from, and once we did that for one country, they started appearing from other countries," he says in an email. Eventually the fake "likes" stopped flowing in — after his band blocked 112 countries.

As of press time, BAKER still hasn't lost any views on his "Not Gonna Wait" video. It has close to 7 million viewers — much more than the singer's next most popular video, which has 1.1 million. (Other videos on his channel range from 70,000 to 700,000.) He has an EP available on iTunes now but can't say how the sales are. "I haven't checked actually. I really don't know," he says.

His YouTube numbers vary, he says, because he hired ClearMetrics, an advertising company, to promote the "Not Gonna Wait" video. He didn't bother with the others after seeing that online views didn't translate into real-world sales. For the kind of music he makes — traditional pop — "the big labels and big radio money are still what counts," he says. "And that was never something that we had, so we tried to do the best we could with the resources available to us."

Now based in L.A. and still making music, BAKER maintains that his online fan base is legitimate. He responded to Hypebot's allegation last year in a statement: "My management did what we could to get the word out, including sending emails, broadening search terms, and a Google AdWords campaign for the first six weeks. ... It just so happened that the spike (and my now growing fan base) are on the other side of the world."

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Tom Mesquit
Tom Mesquit

Ryan remind you of somebody we know!? #Indonesia

Emanuel Garz
Emanuel Garz

Oh wuuuut..so you mean to tell me pple are more interested in faking it til they make it rather than really producing a good product or talent?!!! Well slap my ass and call me Johnny

Jen King
Jen King

Explains the Justin Biebers of the industry.

jenk264
jenk264

Explains the Justin Bieber's of the industry..

tigercide
tigercide

There is a very strong temptation to buy fans. There is such a massive surplus of "bands" today that many artists do whatever they can to try to cut through the BS. But buying fans can definitely backfire as BAKED has proven. At some point, a "real fan" validation app will appear, and this type of nonsense will cease. (The best way to cut through is to make better music, and hope you meet the "right people") 

Johnny Killmore
Johnny Killmore

Interesting topic, seemingly researched with more than Google, and not written in a college-humor style. Not too shabby. Worth the read. Thanks.

Matt Van Buren
Matt Van Buren

The music industry has become increasingly shallow and formulaic

therinwhitten
therinwhitten

Well, just like it said, some bands were just using some ads on facebook to spread the word for their locals shows. Those ads attracted scammers. When someone buys fake likes, those fake likes sometimes like other bands in the genre to keep them from being caught.  So any band may end up having a ton of fake likes, even if they don't even promote a show. How sad is that? Facebook blocks full viewing. They only allow 20 percent of your total fans see any one post. They do this so you pay for all of your fans to see the posts (especially for shows, to let them know when, where, ECT) These are the current things that make it easy for bands to get shafted. 

whammersbach
whammersbach

shame on the payola players,you should have skills not deep pockets (in in some cases 10$)

silverconductor1
silverconductor1

The Silver Conductor here. Wow! it's like padding the score in a football game. Get fans because they Luv you and your music, not because it's being force fed to them. Don't we have enough Fake everything in the land of La La?

MusicLuv, The Silver Conductor (www.thesilverconductor.com)

therinwhitten
therinwhitten

@Emanuel Garz Part of the danger is fake likes are happening just from simple things as promoting a show through facebook. That is the issue, and most case scenarios that happen. 

 

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