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The L.A. Parking Violations Bureau is both the ticket giver and the adjudicator in L.A.'s lopsided system. Yet Brouillet discovered, as he fought his way through it, technical ways to fight tickets.

When it comes to towing tickets, for example, he says to make sure that the tow ticket "is filled out 1,000 percent correct. There are a number of time fields [boxes] they have to fill in, and each one has to be filled in. I had good success fighting tow tickets."

Park Safe L.A. also explains the opaque meaning of yellow, white, green and red curbs. Sure, red means no parking, but it also means no stopping. The yellow curb is for freight loading and unloading, from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. Monday through Saturday, for 30 minutes. But here's a great secret: Anyone can park on the yellow for five minutes, at anytime.

A white curb gives you five minutes, 24 hours a day. Green restricts you to 15 or 30 minutes, as marked, at nursery schools and convenience stores between 8 a.m. and 6 p.m., Monday through Saturday. To park at blue curbs, you must display a valid disabled placard or license plate. (Report abusers at 323-224-6581.)

Park Safe L.A. also debunks urban myths: "If you don't have a ticket on your car, don't assume you didn't get a ticket," Brouillet says. "I parked in a red zone and then saw the ticket lady coming, so I moved my car. ... She got my license plate and I got a ticket in the mail."

Another L.A. myth: free parking on Sunday. Not really. In many high-traffic zones, the meters now are live on Sundays.

Los Angeles is not "the worst" when it comes to incomprehensible parking rules. Parking consultant Reyes says several that vie for that honor include "Chinatown in New York City and any city in Japan."

But Brouillet has a friend who moved from here from New York, who could have used Park Safe L.A. "He ignored his parking tickets, like he did in New York City, and pretty soon the fines and penalties were over a grand. It adds up quick."

Brouillet critiques his app as good, not great. He's made it available via iPhone for free with ads, or for 99 cents without. As part of an ongoing upgrade, he plans to include among the app's image library "neighborhood-specific" signs that crop up only in treacherous areas such as Venice and Hollywood.

But his biggest goal, by year's end, is to add image-recognition abilities, so drivers can snap a picture of an unfathomable city parking sign and let the app analyze whether it's legal to park there. Then the driver can try telling that to the judge.

Reach the writer at davidfutch@roadrunner.com.

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Darrin-0
Darrin-0

Any person who has taken the CA Driver's License Exam should be familiar with those signs. Many times people get tickets simply because they do not pay attention to the signs. I admit, I've gotten a ticket here and there within the County for not walking a few cars up to pay attention to the street signage, but to say that the signs are "baffling" is a bit much, it is more a matter of sheer ignorance, no offense. 

If you are a transplant to LAC, I have nothing against you, I just hope that you have grabbed a Driver's Information booklet from the DMV. Maybe you can create an app for them with that info on it too. 

Andy Andrews
Andy Andrews

This logic will get you tons of tickets in LA. Good luck because it simply ain't that simple.

Andy Andrews
Andy Andrews

This is a good idea. Wish I thought of it. Yeah, I have an android phone. I'd love an android version.

David Leiva
David Leiva

CA22658 only applies to private property impounds. LADOT does not tow from private property.

mamababy9
mamababy9

So, the politician says; 

The  parking / no parking signs don't make any sense and they're a confusing mess. But that's okay because they follow the rules set down in the California Manual of Parking.

Great !

Michelle Wagner
Michelle Wagner

Not true.. that's when those Permit Only signs will earn you a $200+ Tow over by the Sunset clubs!! A very expensive mistake!!

Michelle Wagner
Michelle Wagner

oh, whatever!! the signs are out of control Insane!! Good for him!! you shouldn't need a PhD to decipher signs!! and too many have as many as 4 or 5 and it's Very confusing to figure out which one prevails at the time!! and one mistake and it's a $65+ ticket!! - I've sat and watched 50 pple get m' over in Silverlake on Hyperion, etc.. by Cafe Stella and Intelligentsia coffee! It's permit parking during certain times and pple just assume it's all good all the time.. I've even seen them read the signs and Still mess up! so.. all you holier than thou's don't be so holy.. you just might be the next one that goofs up.. oh, and street sweeping's another one that can get confusing.. not to mention the 4pm rush hour lane turns your previously great parking spot into a towing zone!! the city's Full of parking 'surprises'!! and not fun ones either!!

Nancy Tomasheski
Nancy Tomasheski

I guess that's cool ... but I have never had trouble understanding the signs. Maybe I'm some kind of genius??

Pilar Mac Daniel
Pilar Mac Daniel

In some streets in Beverly Hills you need a doctorate to be able to understand the signs.

eVL_e
eVL_e

damn my friend Glendon had this idea in 2007, nicely done though!

Michelle A Blemel
Michelle A Blemel

If you don't understand this App, you have never tried to Park in LA... Sometimes theres 4 signs for one block...I often read them twice or three times to be very sure!

Novella Whaley
Novella Whaley

If it's too many signs. Keep going. If it's past 8pm chances are you're ok .. Like anywhere.

Victor Ortiz
Victor Ortiz

57 years here, since birth, and I've understood the signs.....

Jeffery Haas
Jeffery Haas

Another asshole who only creates apps for iPhone.

Rick Raygosa
Rick Raygosa

Lol...If can't read the signs...you should not be driving!

Kenne Warren
Kenne Warren

Yeah, it's called reading. The only rule to remember is that Red wins over green and black.

Al Guerrero
Al Guerrero

The problem is, most scofflaws don't bother reading the signs in the first place so the app would be pointless.

Park Safe LA
Park Safe LA

Great article David. Thanks for bringing attention to this LA Weekly.

Efrain Rojas
Efrain Rojas

Why is this even necessary? In a word, it is the legacy of Villa-retardo.

James Beilke
James Beilke

It would be easier to change the signs, stupid all city official's !!! 5signs a post n shit

Marty Estrada
Marty Estrada

Seriously.. Why didn't I think of that. Ugh!

richardstarr
richardstarr

Sometimes the problem is the meter.  It does not always clearly state what the hours of operation are, but will generally gladly continue to take any "donations" given even when not active.


Generally, if you see a light on it, especially a red flashing one, it wants to be fed.

It helps to carry a flash light and something to scrape the windows of the meter so you can read what is there, sometimes it even helps.  What sucks is when it says to look at the signs, but no signs are around you.  Maybe a block away, but not where you are.

We need a way to take the profit out of it for the city.  Let them keep the meter money, but any ticket money goes to the state or the like in a way that they do not benefit.

parksafela
parksafela

@mamababy9 Exactly. I think our politicians can do a better job at trying to help fix this problem instead of insisting it's not an issue. Our new mayor, Eric Garcetti, is known for being open to new ideas. It would probably be a really smart idea for people to contact him and let him know this needs attention. 

parksafela
parksafela

@Pilar Mac Daniel I agree. I find some of the sings in downtown LA and over by Hollywood particularly bad too. It shouldn't be that difficult to park.

parksafela
parksafela

@eVL_e Thanks man. I truly appreciate it. :-) Sounds like your friend Glendon and I need to work together on an app in the future. 

parksafela
parksafela

@Michelle A Blemel Absolutely. It's especially tough for people that are new to LA. It took me a while to get used to the fact that I had to read the parking signs 3 or 4 times just to make sure I could park.

parksafela
parksafela

@Lesa Adams Thanks Lesa :-) Appreciate it.

parksafela
parksafela

@Victor Ortiz The app is really for newcomers to LA. After living here a few years I think most people get the hang of the parking signs, but if you're new to LA or just visiting it can be confusing. 

parksafela
parksafela

@Jeffery Haas Well, I don't know if I'm an asshole lol, but I did initially create this app only for iPhone. I wanted to see if people were interested in it before I made it for android too. If enough people are excited about the iPhone version I will definitely make it for android. I'll count you as one vote for pro android. For real,  if you know others that really want it for android please let me know and I'll get on it.

parksafela
parksafela

@Larry Tabarez Ramirez Very true! :-)

parksafela
parksafela

@Al Guerrero You're right a lot of people don't read the signs. This is trying to help out those that do. If you don't read the signs there is nothing an app or anything else can do to help you. It all starts with reading the signs.

parksafela
parksafela

@Korey Simeone I claim no knowledge of you lol .... just kidding man. Hope you are doing well Korey.

parksafela
parksafela

@James Beilke I completely agree. 5 sings for one spots seems excessive. 

parksafela
parksafela

@richardstarr I completely agree with what you said about taking the profit out of it for the city. As long as the city sees this as a way to get easy money they will tap this as a potential revenue channel and not a problem that frustrates a lot of people. 

 
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