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Local Techie Invents App That Decodes L.A.'s Baffling Parking Signs

Local Techie Invents App That Decodes L.A.'s Baffling Parking Signs
PHOTO BY TED SOQUI
Michael Brouillet of Park Safe L.A.

Computer techie/consultant/aspiring actor Michael Brouillet, 32, moved to Los Angeles four years ago from San Antonio and didn't quite understand how this city rolls. In his first 18 months, parking enforcement officers welcomed him with $1,500 in parking tickets and late penalties.

Brouillet (pronounced as in crème brulee), says, "Los Angeles parking signs look like hieroglyphics. You need a doctorate in urban studies to interpret them."

He developed the Park Safe L.A. app so people can decipher the city's baffling parking signs, sometimes stacked three or four to a post, in a town known for its aggressive ticketing and towing — and its widely hated Los Angeles Parking Violations Bureau.

The app is based on a photo glossary of parking restriction signs — the driver locates the same sign confronting him. Text below the photo explains, in understandable language, what the city's sign really means and whether it's legal to park. With multiple signs, you must check each photo against the app — but you won't be left guessing.

"Parking tickets are a huge cash cow for the city," Brouillet says. "So the city has no impetus to make its signs less confusing. First of all, the city doesn't see these signs as a problem when many of them are comical, and secondly, it's a great revenue stream. Right or wrong, the city wants to tap into that revenue stream."

One photo featured on Park Safe L.A. shows three city signs screwed on a post in a school zone. The top sign states, "Passenger loading only 6:30 a.m. to 9:30 a.m. and 1:30 p.m. to 4 p.m. on school days" while a sign below it states "Two-hour parking 9:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m." and the bottom sign warns "Tow away no stopping 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. school days."

So, in the twisted-pretzel logic of Los Angeles Department of Transportation (LADOT for those who've been ticketed with fervor), you can park there, you just can't stop or you'll be towed.

In many baffling L.A. parking zones, it would be far less maddening to be told when you can park, not when you can't.

Along Sunset Boulevard at Detroit Street in Hollywood, numerous posts display a quadruple sign announcing "Anti-Gridlock Zone" and "No stopping 7 a.m. to 9 a.m. and 4 p.m. to 7 p.m. except Saturday and Sunday" plus "1-Hour Parking Mon-Fri 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. and 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. Saturday 8 a.m. to 9 p.m." The fourth sign warns, "Tow Away — Temporary No Parking 6:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. except Saturday and Sunday."

Hilarious. Unless you have two kids or a seat full of work in the back and you're late.

LADOT spokesman Bruce Gillman insists he doesn't see the problem.

"Our signs are posted consistent with the California Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (CA MUTCD) and the California Vehicle Code," he says via email.

Why should it also have to make sense?

"We frequently have multiple parking regulations (e.g., no parking during rush hour and time limits to encourage turnover in business districts) that require more than one sign," he adds. "The public is responsible for reading all posted signs and complying with the regulations in effect."

And if that wasn't perfectly clear, Gillman adds, "Painted curb markings are determined by the California Vehicle Code."

The Weekly reported on Aug. 22, in an article headlined, "Why Do You Hate the L.A. Parking Violations Bureau So Much? Maybe Because It Lies and Steals Your Money," that the city and LADOT's top bureaucrats are the subject of a class action lawsuit, Jeff Galfer, et al., v. the City of Los Angeles, et al.

Residents are outraged at such absurdities as parking tickets issued to people whose cars weren't in L.A. at the time of ticketing, and apparent official misbehavior, including an incident in which a woman parked her car hours before a furtive city crew erected a new sign that suddenly made her vehicle subject to towing. Which it was.

LVR International's Lia Reyes, a transportation consultant who has advised London, Tokyo, Hong Kong, New York and other cities on parking problems, says there's a reason for municipal ticketing aggression: When income and property tax revenue sank during the Great Recession, cities drummed up cash from bold parking enforcement.

"I don't know if (increasing fines and tickets) was a matter of survival for Los Angeles," Reyes says, "but the recession hit the city hard."

Reyes finds the Park Safe L.A. app "interesting" and says it "has a lot of good basic information because a lot of parking signs in L.A. can be very confusing. ... This app clarifies parking signs right away. It's helpful.

"Most drivers aren't paying attention to signs, and that's why they get a ticket," she adds. "I've never had a parking ticket in L.A., but parking is my business, so I'm diligent."

While researching the app, Brouillet also discovered California law CA22658, which covers rules regarding towing. It has to be one of California's better-kept secrets, so he included it in his app.

CA22658 states that if a driver coughs up half the money owed "on site," the tow driver must "drop" the vehicle right there and give the car back to the owner — not strand him or her in the middle of the night. Not drag the car off to a costly, distant storage yard reachable only by taxi or a friend you've woken up.

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Darrin-0
Darrin-0

Any person who has taken the CA Driver's License Exam should be familiar with those signs. Many times people get tickets simply because they do not pay attention to the signs. I admit, I've gotten a ticket here and there within the County for not walking a few cars up to pay attention to the street signage, but to say that the signs are "baffling" is a bit much, it is more a matter of sheer ignorance, no offense. 

If you are a transplant to LAC, I have nothing against you, I just hope that you have grabbed a Driver's Information booklet from the DMV. Maybe you can create an app for them with that info on it too. 

Andy Andrews
Andy Andrews

This logic will get you tons of tickets in LA. Good luck because it simply ain't that simple.

Andy Andrews
Andy Andrews

This is a good idea. Wish I thought of it. Yeah, I have an android phone. I'd love an android version.

David Leiva
David Leiva

CA22658 only applies to private property impounds. LADOT does not tow from private property.

mamababy9
mamababy9

So, the politician says; 

The  parking / no parking signs don't make any sense and they're a confusing mess. But that's okay because they follow the rules set down in the California Manual of Parking.

Great !

Michelle Wagner
Michelle Wagner

Not true.. that's when those Permit Only signs will earn you a $200+ Tow over by the Sunset clubs!! A very expensive mistake!!

Michelle Wagner
Michelle Wagner

oh, whatever!! the signs are out of control Insane!! Good for him!! you shouldn't need a PhD to decipher signs!! and too many have as many as 4 or 5 and it's Very confusing to figure out which one prevails at the time!! and one mistake and it's a $65+ ticket!! - I've sat and watched 50 pple get m' over in Silverlake on Hyperion, etc.. by Cafe Stella and Intelligentsia coffee! It's permit parking during certain times and pple just assume it's all good all the time.. I've even seen them read the signs and Still mess up! so.. all you holier than thou's don't be so holy.. you just might be the next one that goofs up.. oh, and street sweeping's another one that can get confusing.. not to mention the 4pm rush hour lane turns your previously great parking spot into a towing zone!! the city's Full of parking 'surprises'!! and not fun ones either!!

Nancy Tomasheski
Nancy Tomasheski

I guess that's cool ... but I have never had trouble understanding the signs. Maybe I'm some kind of genius??

Pilar Mac Daniel
Pilar Mac Daniel

In some streets in Beverly Hills you need a doctorate to be able to understand the signs.

eVL_e
eVL_e

damn my friend Glendon had this idea in 2007, nicely done though!

Michelle A Blemel
Michelle A Blemel

If you don't understand this App, you have never tried to Park in LA... Sometimes theres 4 signs for one block...I often read them twice or three times to be very sure!

Novella Whaley
Novella Whaley

If it's too many signs. Keep going. If it's past 8pm chances are you're ok .. Like anywhere.

Victor Ortiz
Victor Ortiz

57 years here, since birth, and I've understood the signs.....

Jeffery Haas
Jeffery Haas

Another asshole who only creates apps for iPhone.

Rick Raygosa
Rick Raygosa

Lol...If can't read the signs...you should not be driving!

Kenne Warren
Kenne Warren

Yeah, it's called reading. The only rule to remember is that Red wins over green and black.

Al Guerrero
Al Guerrero

The problem is, most scofflaws don't bother reading the signs in the first place so the app would be pointless.

Park Safe LA
Park Safe LA

Great article David. Thanks for bringing attention to this LA Weekly.

Efrain Rojas
Efrain Rojas

Why is this even necessary? In a word, it is the legacy of Villa-retardo.

James Beilke
James Beilke

It would be easier to change the signs, stupid all city official's !!! 5signs a post n shit

Marty Estrada
Marty Estrada

Seriously.. Why didn't I think of that. Ugh!

richardstarr
richardstarr

Sometimes the problem is the meter.  It does not always clearly state what the hours of operation are, but will generally gladly continue to take any "donations" given even when not active.


Generally, if you see a light on it, especially a red flashing one, it wants to be fed.

It helps to carry a flash light and something to scrape the windows of the meter so you can read what is there, sometimes it even helps.  What sucks is when it says to look at the signs, but no signs are around you.  Maybe a block away, but not where you are.

We need a way to take the profit out of it for the city.  Let them keep the meter money, but any ticket money goes to the state or the like in a way that they do not benefit.

parksafela
parksafela

@mamababy9 Exactly. I think our politicians can do a better job at trying to help fix this problem instead of insisting it's not an issue. Our new mayor, Eric Garcetti, is known for being open to new ideas. It would probably be a really smart idea for people to contact him and let him know this needs attention. 

parksafela
parksafela

@Pilar Mac Daniel I agree. I find some of the sings in downtown LA and over by Hollywood particularly bad too. It shouldn't be that difficult to park.

parksafela
parksafela

@eVL_e Thanks man. I truly appreciate it. :-) Sounds like your friend Glendon and I need to work together on an app in the future. 

parksafela
parksafela

@Michelle A Blemel Absolutely. It's especially tough for people that are new to LA. It took me a while to get used to the fact that I had to read the parking signs 3 or 4 times just to make sure I could park.

parksafela
parksafela

@Lesa Adams Thanks Lesa :-) Appreciate it.

parksafela
parksafela

@Victor Ortiz The app is really for newcomers to LA. After living here a few years I think most people get the hang of the parking signs, but if you're new to LA or just visiting it can be confusing. 

parksafela
parksafela

@Jeffery Haas Well, I don't know if I'm an asshole lol, but I did initially create this app only for iPhone. I wanted to see if people were interested in it before I made it for android too. If enough people are excited about the iPhone version I will definitely make it for android. I'll count you as one vote for pro android. For real,  if you know others that really want it for android please let me know and I'll get on it.

parksafela
parksafela

@Larry Tabarez Ramirez Very true! :-)

parksafela
parksafela

@Al Guerrero You're right a lot of people don't read the signs. This is trying to help out those that do. If you don't read the signs there is nothing an app or anything else can do to help you. It all starts with reading the signs.

parksafela
parksafela

@Korey Simeone I claim no knowledge of you lol .... just kidding man. Hope you are doing well Korey.

parksafela
parksafela

@James Beilke I completely agree. 5 sings for one spots seems excessive. 

parksafela
parksafela

@richardstarr I completely agree with what you said about taking the profit out of it for the city. As long as the city sees this as a way to get easy money they will tap this as a potential revenue channel and not a problem that frustrates a lot of people. 

 
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