West Hollywood's New Fur Ban Could Be a Model for the Nation. But Opponents Are Still Trying to Strike It Down

evacst2004

Great for West Hollywood!
Fur is not acceptable in our society in this day and age.
We have great faux alternatives look at designers like Stella McCartney and the likes..
I have been in high-end luxury retail for a long time and so many fur-wearing "Angelenos" claim to love their pets and would come in with their yorkies and pomeranians.
Have you ever seen a baby fox? what about a chinchilla?
They are ADORABLE...
they all have a heart, a brain, they can FEEL everything!
If you still support-wear fur you are living in the dark ages, we no longer need to hunt, kill we have the technology to make alternative fur, leather etc...
remember Chanel circa 2010? All fake fur!
Karl Lagerfeld says it himself:
"“Technical advances are so perfect you can hardly tell fake fur from the real thing. Fake is not chic — we have got a new Chanel tweed to stop copies — but fake fur is.”
We can be the generation that changes things, it's not impossible...just a little over 100 years ago blacks were enslaved and now we have an African American president :)

think about it....

katwalkesq

Bravo Ellen Lavinthal & WeHo. Now, if we could succeed in banning the wearing of fur by anyone other than its original owners. If this ARA & attorney can assist in preserving & expanding the no fur movement, you have only to ask.

markd7

Some animal skins are ok to use like cow hide because it is a byproduct of meat production. I would also argue that some animals which are pests are ok to use like rats, which can cause a lot of damage and are tricky to get rid of once they have set up residence on your property. There are plenty of suggestions of how to get rid of them e.g. http://www.pest-control-products.net/717/rats/how-to-get-rid-of-rats/ but wouldn't it be more productive if we could turn it into an industry where their fur could be recycled? Throughout history there have been many times where rats are used as a source of food, so why not use there fur?

EthicalOne

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I document trappers forums and trappers aren't nice people. They're self-righteous and hypocritical tyrants.

Most of trappers fur goes on petroleum made polymer and nylon. Goes for the coat's trim. Fur is cruel and we all know real fur uses a lot of energy.Hick trappers burns a LOT of oil for fur.Trappers are cruel collect evidence NOT from PETA nor HSUS. I collect from trappers own forums. http://zaxtor.net/Trapping.htm Where do 90 to 100% of the fur trappers gather goes, on what coat it goes on? http://zaxtor.net/RFINRB.htm Now the evidence that trapped fur is MORE non renewable than farmed furs. Aside burning a lot of gasoline to gather etc.But farmed fur is still worst than synthetic fur and eco-UNfriendly.On what does 90 to 100% of their fur goes on?Simple FABRICShell: 190gsm, Arctic-Tech; 85% Polyester / 15% Cotton blend with a DWR finish.Lining: 55gsm, Nylon plain weave treated with water-repellent finish.Coyote fur ruff surrounding a removable 2-way adjustable hood for great protection from the elements. Also hypocritical trappers who cry about fake fur being made from oil. They wear synthetics, polyester, uses plastic and drive a car too.So they're hypocrites. Majorities of trappers wear polyester / nylon coats with real fur and toxic DWR finish.Real fur is preserve in toxic chemicals.Some say they use borax, saw dusts and others, truth is, It's TEMPORALLY preservation until fur gets shipped to China where they put really toxic chemicals. Real fur has chemicals. http://zaxtor.net/RF.htmAlso trappers abuse animals on their trap lines.

Trappers ABUSES animals on their trap line.http://zaxtor.net/trappers_abuse_animals_on_their_traplines.htmSo probably the animal with mange thing is an excuse to trap rarely the sick and mostly trap healthy.So more disoriented sick roam and make other sick.Sport hunters and trappers are a bunch of genocidal tyrants.They will use this inbred hick redneck excuse to justify sport killing and get away with their lies.Also trapper's genocidal stances.They always prejudice and do bigotry toward nature.They hate wolves these USFWS wants to unlimitely kill wolves.Hick trappers obsess on torturing and killing wolves.I document this forums.Trappers are apathy and horrible human beings.I learn from trappers not opposite side. Trappers ARE liars because they support liars.They obsess on pro use.If you ever heard of ECO vs EGO.Trappers are on the EGOs side.

0000

@EthicalOne

Cram it you self-righteous hypocrite.

EthicalOne

@0000 @EthicalOne You're the one who is self-righteous.Check yourself before calling me names.You must be a republihick who is selfi-righteous, anti-environment, put money above people and are all lobbyists in the wrong way.

animallover2

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Having a self disfigured plastic surgery addict makes the cause seem superficial. I am all for animal rights but not when it is lead by a hideous self promoting person like Ellen Lavinthal.

She is a obviously an insane egomaniac who is addicted to plastic surgery......

NOT CREDIBLE JUST LIKE THE WACKOS WHO SUPPORT HER WACKO CAUSE.

Keep up the good work, Fur is on every runway.

ebimbomama

@animallover2 Doubt you live up to your email address of animal lover or you would not want to detract from the fur ban. What is your real agenda here?!

Producer777

IT IS VERY SAD THAT INSTEAD OF PRAISING THE FUR BAN IN WEHO YOU ARE ALL ATTACKING ELLEN! PLEASE ATTACK AND FOCUS ON TAKING DOWN THE PEOPLE WHO SKIN THESE ANIMALS ALIVE IN LOCAL FUR FARMS AND CHINA!!! FOR GOD's SAKE WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Producer777

Gina Mastrogiovanni This is a great article and I am happy to see a woman of your status and upscale address spending your time promoting and fighting the horrific and cruel treatment of animals for furs and fashion instead of wearing them like I see too often by the people who can afford them and I am sooooo tired of seeing reality stars with their fur everything all over the press!

Drmiller

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It is appalling to me that Ms Lavinthal is willing to resort to extreme bullying and absolute terrorist tactics. This is a free country and as such we are all entitled to say what we want, wear what we want and eat what we want without being subjected to her outrageous and ill informed propaganda.

The mere fact that she is injected with so much Botox is pure hypocrisy and a clear indication of just how delusional she is.

...not to mention being publically subjected by her egomaniacal, narcissistic rants with her friends ...what an unfortunate and truly ugly human being.

BBALOG

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From Ellen Lavinthal's Dad;

I'm a very fortunate parent, twice blessed by both a son and daughter who have committed their lives to public service. My son, a Monterey Physician chose a most difficult and demanding specialty, Family Practice, in order to best meet the humane and medical needs of the residents of his community.

But this comment is dedicated to my daughter Ellen who over a 20 year period has devoted her life, with an almost full time commitment, to the welfare of sick, abused and abandoned animals.

Ellen is a graduate of the prestigious USC Law School. Generous salaries with prominent Law firms were offered to her yet she chose a career path that would both impact her life and the welfare of those helpless animals that she so loved. When some of her contemporaries in Beverly Hills chose the social scene as a primary activity my daughter elected to work long hours as the unpaid President of the Animal Alliance. Her efforts were directed to rescuing abused dogs and cats, urging that pets be adopted not bought, supporting spay and neuter programs, urging legislation to protect animals and raising funds to support animal rights organizations , locally and throughout California. Her tireless animal rights activities are almost too numerous to mention here. A young woman who could have spent her life enjoying the perks and luxury of wealth instead chose a life of dedication and commitment to the cause she felt compelled to serve.

To sat that I'm proud of my children would be an understatement. What a blessing it is for a parent to know that they have chosen to make a contribution to the community and society in which they live.......both my son and daughter are "givers" in a world too often populated by "takers"....they will leave the world a better place as a result of their efforts.

A proud father

Drmiller

@BBALOG The Animal Alliance is a fine cause, the fanaticism of the anti fur movement is where the problem lies... They are bullies and use Jihad tactics that make the anti fur groups seem insane and ineffective as fur has never been more popular...

you raised an abusive bully sir, shame on you.

fatboy

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I had a friend who worked for Ellen Laventhal. Ellen was verbally abusive and hideously cruel.... E. wouldn't let her employee look her in the face... she was very mean and abusive, it seems very hypocritical that Ellen speaks about the inhumane treatment of animals but treats her help like a second a class citizen....

She is a wacko like the rest of the anti fur looneys..... just look at her face.

MarcM

@fatboy I know the Laventhals very well. Dennis, the owner of Hits Magazine, is well known for his thug tactics of rating artists. If you can't help Dennis in his "business", he won't even talk to you. Ellen was a nobody until she met and married Dennis. I consider her one of the most vial persons I have ever known. Incredibly rude, arrogant and out-right disgusting with almost no redeeming qualities. Spending hundred of thousands of dollars on disgusting, disfiguring plastic surgery puts an an accurate face on this vial person. Her mother, on the contrary, is one of the sweetest persons I know. I am embarrassed that she is on the forefront of this cause.

Ellen

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@fatboy

Carole Davis, everyone knows this is you or one of your sidekicks filling this page up with your untruths, using various fictitious email accounts. I would like to know the name of this so called employee who worked for me, that you would know?! I only as of a year ago hired my first employee, and she is still working with me! As for my housekeeper, she has been working for us for 6 years and says we make her feels like a member of our family, and invite her son for playmates with my daughter all the time.

Moreover it appears you have me on google alerts as every time an article mentions me or one of the BIG TV videos are posted you are there with the same botox remarks! I am truly sorry u were not asked to lead up the fur campaign as you had desired, but they really felt like your people skills made you the wrong choice for this. It was not my decision, but rather that of a committee that voted on the spokesperson.

Last Chance for Animals and other grps and individuals in the animal community I have relationships with, have told me that they have disassociated themselves with you. You have no one to blame but yourself; but you choose to fight me instead of using your time for the animals. If people were bothering to even read these comments, besides yourself and a few others, they would attest to the fact that i have NEVER mistreated anyone. I speak up for what I believe in but treat people and animals alike, with dignity. It is not my nature to do otherwise. It is not even my nature to respond to you in this way, but someone has to Carole as you have bullied too many people for too long and as a result find yourself standing alone. Please channel that energy into helping animals or children as the animals and children need as many voices as possible, having no voice of their own.

maddy

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@Ellen The fact that Ellen is on here constantly ranting in her comments against one person who has nothing to do with these comments is proof positive of her bizarre, delusional, and obsessive nature and the fact that the person who wrote this article did not do his research. I personally support her on the fur ban but am tired of Ellen and her ilk thinking they can go around treating human beings like scum, lying, and buying or whining their way out of their mistakes, which are numerous. She should not be exemplified as a fine example of anything other than a Beverly Hills housewife behaving badly.

For one so high born, her manners are atrocious. Several of us here have painfully experienced this personally. There are others who are more deserving of this honor who do not have the financial advantages Ellen is so happy to remind us about (tacky) and who have made real sacrifice in the name of animal welfare.

labimbos

@maddy @Ellen
I am sorry to say so, Maddy, but the one who is ranting here is you.
Ellen sounds very reasonable to me

dr.howardhail

California seems intent on telling other people how to live as if they had any morals themselves. Fur is still used in the rest of the world and I don't think you will be able to to remove it from the world. As for putting animals above the needs of human beings I find this revolting. Thinking you are speaking for animals is the height of arrogance. Animal rights organizations push the vegan diet as the answer to keeping animals alive but in fact they cause the deaths of far more animals by the millions than those that eat meat. "Animals die by the thousands every day from the raising of crops and yet you hear the vegan animal rights cult members claim they don't cause the deaths of animals by not eating meat, but in fact they cause the deaths of thousands of animals every time they eat any plant. Although vegans claim to be ethical, the production of their food alone reduces their claim to impossibility. Animals are killed in untold millions, in the course of plant agriculture. Some are killed accidentally in the course of mechanized farming; some are killed deliberately in the course of pest control. Animals are killed, every day. Every potato, every stick of celery, every cup of rice, and every carrot has a blood trail leading from field to plate. Pheasants and rabbits are routinely killed in planting and harvesting, and rodents are killed by the thousands using traps and pesticides at every step: production, storage, and transportation. Rational people know this and don’t worry about it. It’s an inevitable consequence of agriculture. The ethical vegan, when confronted with these undeniable facts, collapses. Their reaction, in almost every case, is to claim, that their vegan diet somehow causes “less death and suffering” than a non-vegan diet. The fact is that all vegan diets cause more suffering and killing. For example a pound of wild venison (net cost in animal death: about 1/120th of one animal) almost certainly causes less “death and suffering” than a pound of rice (net cost in animal death: including rodents, insect, reptiles and amphibians, number of deaths may range into the hundreds). The ethical vegan follows no ethical principle. Instead, they follow a simple, easy, results-neutral, and ethically indifferent rule: Do not put animal parts in your mouth. It allows them a pretense of moral and ethical superiority with no real effort; it is a cheap and easy pose, nothing more. In fact, ethical vegans exhibit a stunning and savage hypocrisy. Ethical vegans, as a class, fail utterly to put any of their professed ethics into action. They claim to not cause harm to animals, but they do; when confronted, they claim to cause less harm to animals than the non-vegan, but they are utterly unable to show that to be true, and are willing to take no real effort to even quantify their impact. They are intimately involved, every day, in an activity that causes the deaths of millions of animals, and they do nothing about it." What animal rights vegans do is harass and try to force other people into following their hypocrisy. They are irrational from lack of Active VB12 which is required for the brain to think rationally since they eat no meat and active VB12 only comes from meat products. They are suffering from a lack of VB12 to the point that their minds are overly emotional and irrational a disease state caused by the strict diet that they falsely follow. In doing so they lie to the public about this diet and about the eating of meat. Thankfully all studies that these vegans have done have been debunked by the scientists. Eating moderate amounts of meat is healthy, overeating anything is not, its as simple as that.

ayanag

" fur apparel is extremely popular; in 2010, U.S." fur sales were $1.3 billion". I not so sure real fur is popular or whether those statistics are for real fur or faux fur. Because fur purveyors know that today's consumers want cruelty-free fashion, fur ads and garments, too, are not being labeled as faux or real. The idea is that consumers will simply scoop up the real/faux item in a don't ask, don't tell transaction. Yet, consumers are on to that game: examining the garment lining to determine the truth and calling stores and media on their lack of transparency. I, myself, have complained to Ebony and Essence magazines and LAT about not labeling their fur ads. All those outlets have conscious consumers who want to make cruelty-free choices. Yes, there are old, irrelevant outliers and wanna-be pimps who don't care about the cruelty they're wearing. But, most people today do care and know that they'll be ostracized for wearing real fur.

Drmiller

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@ayanag Again you are ill-informed, FUR IS EVERWHERE and that is not going to change.... Anna Wintour dictates that and you tried to st.op her but were unsuccessful.

Its freedom of choice and that is what america is all about.

missariellebee

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awesome! So important to set an example for the rest of the world. life should be respected !

watkinssj

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Great job, Ellen! Thank you for being a soldier for the voiceless, innocent animals! You are truly amazing. And thank you, John D'Amico and West Hollywood for being a leader in compassion! As for Paul Nicoletti, "Waah!" Being in business is "more difficult" for you! Try being vaginally or anally electrocuted, skinned alive, drowned or have your neck broke and then you'll have a real reason to cry. Oh, but you just sell shearling. Well, then you must be aware of the excruciating mulesling procedure the lambs go through, the painful shearing and miserable export overseas to their deaths. You're the one who chose to profit from the misery and death of animals for "fashion." The rest of the world is evolving. Maybe you should, too.

SECONDS AGO

Fortheunderdog

I have known Ellen since college when there too she gave up a big part of her life to defend the rights of the underdog. We marched together for women's rights and global injustices. She has always been well loved; I remember hearing that in high school she was even awarded "best personality"! No surprise to me. I am sure there are people who are jealous if they are that sort of person, since she "has it all", in a sense. She is pretty, smart, articulate, wealthy, adored by her successful husband and daughter and well respected for actually making a difference in this world. That certainly does invite the envious to try to find a chink in the armor. To them I say: would you rather she just got facials and went shopping rather then actually DO something; and what are YOU doing that comes close to compare with what she has done?

As for the plastic surgery comments, all I know is she looks great. You can't go out with Ellen without men stopping to say hi to her, which probably just invites more envy.

As for the comment below regarding how she treats service people. I cannot imagine that person really even knows her. I have NEVER evidenced Ellen to be anything but humble about her status in life and as kind and generous to others human beings as she is to animals. I will end with this one example of many I have personally witnessed: Once we were in a discount clothing store and the salesperson started telling us how her husband was out of work and she needed an eye surgery. Ellen ran to an instant teller, withdrew cash and came back and handed it to the woman in an envelope, and turned away and disappeared before she could turn it down.

fatboy

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@Fortheunderdog you don't know your friend. she has the worst reputation in town..... ask around....

MONSTER...... A total crazy egomaniac meat eating hypocrite....

maddy

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@fatboy Agreed, she seems like a nice person at first, but spend enough time with her and they will see the real Ellen. Not fun, rude, demanding, and complains about things costing too much money, which is amazing coming from her, when she loves to brag about how much she has.

It would be nice to see a leader in the community who keeps their nose to the grindstone and doesn't spend so much time backbiting and trying to tear down others who are actually striving for the same goal, who would be her allies if not for her horrendous behavior.

watkinssj

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@Fortheunderdog A friend of mine has volunteered at some of Ellen's fundraising events and many other fundraising events. She mentioned someone who had treated her badly and then mentioned that Ellen was the best to volunteer for, that she treated everybody super nice, so she always likes to volunteer for her :)Why anybody would attack someone who has done so much good is beyond me.

rwpipher

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I think it is wonderful. There is no excuse for killing animals merely for fashion. A caring compassionate woman or man looks sexier when they show their concern for those lovely animals who are slaughtered in a very inhumane way merely for their pelts! It is a shame that we have so many celebrities who care about nothing but their own vain interests, who could care less about the hell these animals had to go through even before they are killed! The Kardasians,Joan Rivers, and Cee Lo's are horrible uncaring people who prove how vain and selfish they truly are. Ugly people wear fur~

Producer777

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It is such a shame that nasty people have turned this great article into another ego-drama cat fight just like on Facebook. Never can focus on the issue at hand, if you weren't so obssesed in attacking women such as Ellen maybe you could go save some animals, or do major fundraisers, or any acitvism event to help... instead you are constantly obsessed in defaming her... that's all you think about, every single day, like exactly every hour you are posting comments everywhere about her... what is wrong with you? Why are you so infactuated with Ellen?

Producer777

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Ellen Lavinthal was chosen the activist of the year. She got that title not just because of leading the fur ban but also because she worked to get spay and neuter laws passed in Sacramento and LA, close pet shops and write columns in magazine exposing animal issues. I am guessing that’s why the women who are obsessed in constantly attacking her are either green with envy or closet lesbians madly in love with her!

helpfulheroine

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Really? Of all the issues society faces today, fur? Go to a Native American reservation and tell them they should never kill animals and make clothes, blankets or shelter. This is what a city is choosing to spend all their time outlawing? Because there are some other social issues that I'd like to see outlawed as well. How about outlawing the wearing of ugly clothes, because that really disgusts me and hurts my eyes and is bad for the environment. How about outlawing the legislating of people's personal opinions? How about outlawing all the bad drivers? How about outlawing all the people who come to LA from other places who give LA a bad name? How about outlawing plastic surgery - does Ellen know how people's obsession with looks negatively effects children? All these lame fur banning people who assault and batter people who wear fur and leather are so privileged and delusional that they don't even notice the busboy bringing them pellegrino who works 3 jobs to send money to his family. Talk about disgusting hypocrites.

Also, people think that plastic surgery makes them look young and pretty, but to me it makes them look creepy and ugly, and a lot of people view it that way. You're a shallow person.

rwpipher

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@helpfulheroine In this day and age NO ONE NEEDS to kill animals for their pelts to keep them warm...blah blah!!! Do not compare how Native Americans survived to this issue!!! They used every piece of the animal, they did not skin them and leave the body laying on the ground. They respected nature! How can you compair getting plastic surgery to this issue? A person chooses to have these procedures done. I highly doubt that a fox bends over and asked to have the anal probed shoved up his ass so he can be electrocuted. Believe it or not most activists are average people but it is wonderful when we see people who are privileged and yet have a heart and soul!!!

helpfulheroine

@rwpipher snore.

scribrh

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Killing animals and wearing their skin for show or for warmth is just cruel. There is no reason for it except to say "I do not care that animals suffered so I could throw this on my back to show off". There are alternatives that are much warmer. I'm horrified when I see people with fur, and I recently saw Vicki of Real Housewives of OC bragging on and showing off her fur coat. Let's ban the skinning of animals in every state. It is sickening.

maddy

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Ellen claims to speak her truth, but she seems to care less about the actual truth, which shows in the way she name-drops and ignores inconvenient truths in order to get what she wants - the endorsement of a fur-wearing celebrity, for example, or a highly publicized event. I support D'Amico and the ban but Lavinthal, the woman herself, is a total nightmare I have had the displeasure to experience personally. Though I agree with her philosophy, I can't support her questionable ethics, such as hosting a party with a fashion show featuring a fur and feather-loving designer or one at Jimmy Choo, even as they were openly selling fur and python boots. She doesn't seem to ultimately care if she is in effect endorsing exactly what it is she claims to be fighting against - selling fur; a benefit supposedly for her animal organization which actually funded The Dream Center, which promotes an anti-gay agenda. There is also some question about how exactly donations to her "rescue" are allocated, if at all. She has been known to abandon people with large vet bills once the animals have been pulled. Her bizarre competitiveness, backstabbing, and self-promoting behavior is apparent when her real concern should be whether animals are negatively affected by her publicity stunts. She also enjoys bragging about her wealth while treating service people and even other activists like something she found on the bottom of her shoe. She is a real piece of work by all accounts. Whether you are a shop owner on Melrose or an animal activist yourself, if you see her, run.

Eric

@maddy

Attended the Jimmy Choo event with my gf. No fur or python boots on display. We would have noticed that! Where do you get your info "maddy"?

Doubt Ellen abandons anyone with large vet bills as her organization actually donates to the medical of low income families' companion animals. That is how we got to know her and her org, Animal Alliance. Our vet was raving about this generous woman who helped many of her low income clients with their vet bills and thought we should get to know her, since we too are animal lovers and live close by Ellen. We shortly after got to meet Ellen and see her in action, donating both her time and resources at Catnippers free feral cat spay and neuter clinic, and have supported Animal Alliance ever since. From the size of her events, apparently many others do as well. Again where do you get your info?

It appears you have an agenda that has nothing to do with the welfare of animals. The topic of this article is a fur ban which Ellen was a large part of, and a woman (Ellen) who living in the lap of luxury chooses to use her good fortune to better the world. Those two things remain undeniable.

If you covet what Ellen has, as it is quite apparent to the readers on this page that you do maddy, then be a nicer person and maybe the universe will bestow upon you the good fortune it has upon her.

lasocialscene

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@Eric

WHY Would anyone covet being a hideous bully. She is evil and hated by most people that really know her.....

jimmy chop uses exotic skins and furs just google the collection.

ebimbomama

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@maddy

Oh there you are again Carole Davis! I am sorry you were not chosen to be a spokesperson for the WeHo fur ban as you had requested of Ed Buck, but that was the choice of the committee, who reviewed your track record and felt it was not the right move.

maddy

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@ebimbomama No Ellen, just another activist and average person you have burned with your ego and unattractive mudslinging behavior. You aren't winning any friends in the community by behaving like this. Frankly I find your bragging about your accomplishments quite tacky. More power to you and your fur ban, but a little humility would be nice.

lasocialscene

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@maddy you are right Ellen is a terrible person everyone knows it...

Eric

@maddy

Really Carole? Because this is EXACTLY what you spent weeks saying on FB about Ellen. Weeks. Your entire FB page was about Ellen. The people I know found it a little creepy. So either this is you or the one or two friends you still have left.

maddy

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@fortheunderdog Just because one points out certain flaws in Ellen's character does not mean that we do not participate in helping animals ourselves or that we are jealous. When she does things that are confusing are hypocritical and someone points out these facts, she reacts with threats of lawsuits and trying to get them in trouble instead of fixing the problem. Curious when animal welfare is at stake, yet she is more concerned about throwing a party than whether those she associates herself with are wearing fur, selling fur, or designing with fur - which she is supposedly against. Apparently she is incapable of admitting these mistakes, which would have indicated her real priorities are with the animals, not saving face or engaging in some kind of name-dropping popularity contest. This comes from personal experience with her, not just from what is written in the article.

fortheunderdog

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@maddy Jealousy is very unbecoming maddy, and it is apparent you are seething with it. If LA Weekly deemed Ellen and the fur ban she helped bring about important and interesting enough to profile, why should Ellen have turned this down? I doubt many people would have. I read no lack of humility on her part in the article. Considering Ellen has many more accomplishments under her belt then are listed in this article, she was quite humble.

Show up at any animal protest, take a poll and you will find most of the activists know and adore her, contrary to your envious claims to the contrary.

stevenbernheim1

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Ellen Lavinthal, Ed Buck, John D'Amico and all the others who worked tirelessly to achieve this tremendous victory for animals are heroes! Period. They set an example for the rest of us

Steven Jay Bernheim, Esq.

Attorney at Law

Founder, The Bernheim Foundation

www.TheBernheimFoundation.com

www.TheBernheimLawFirm.com

deepysix

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This article should have been entitled, "Hypocrisy in WeHo?"

The answer to this question requires more questions than were asked in the article. I will now posit a few.

For John D'Amico:

Would you be willing to submit your cow shoes for testing to see if there are any residual traces of cow fur on them? (It's a fine line between virtue and criminality.)

Are all those birds and fish that you eat raised cruelty-free, sustainably, blah, blah blah?

For Ellen Lavinthal:

Would you be willing to submit your faux-leather purse for examination for ecological soundness? (Warning! It might involve toxins and petrochemicals.)

Were any furry non-humans harmed by your father's underground gun-running enterprise?

LfromWEHO

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I discovered the Fur Free WEHO activists one day on a walk to Whole Foods and found them so committed I decided to join the group and hold a sign urging the ban of the sale of fur in WEHO. In that time I have been lucky to meet and work alongside many of these people including Ms. Lavinthal who I have come to learn does walk the walk. She lives a vegan lifestyle and lends her home for fundraisers to benefit organizations that try to make the lives of animals less tortured. In addition to helping rescue, foster and find homes for homeless animals, Ms. Lavinthal is on the front lines at such events as Circus protests, the Los Angeles Zoo trial regarding Billy the Elephant and other notable events. The people in the animal rights arena sacrifice their time and money in addition to their energy trying to effect change in causes they believe in. Can those who do nothing but complain about things they don't agree with make the same statement?

ebimbomama

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Yes there will always be those haters in life that are either jealous or try to find a contradiction in your argument or make you to crazy for your position, so they can justify their doing nothing about an issue and continuing to wear fur, eat meat or whatever it is they really don't want to to stop doing. I have long ago accepted that as the way that humans preserve the status quo, it changing it threatens them in some way. Most often it is greed or envy that is a driving force. I would venture to say, the naysayers here, fall into one of those two catagories!

denhits

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Carole Davis who has nothing better to do then tear down other people's accomplishments, when that time could be put to actually accomplishing something FOR the animals, is obviously behind the negative posts here. You had only to go onto Ellen's facebook page on her birthday to see the outpouring of love and respect from the animal community for the sacrifices she has made the past 20 years for the animals. She certainly has the resources to travel the world, or "do lunch" and shop, but chooses to spend a majority of her waking hours working for the rights of all creatures.

fatboy

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@denhits Ellen is a sicko just ask any service person, nanny, housekeeper or hairdresser... she is a cruel and ugly human being.

jayarr8

I just have one issue with people who are out to ban fur: Why is "fur" the real issue? Fur is simply shaved from animal skins. Animal skins are made into leather products with no fur. What gets me whenever the fur issue comes up is what leather products are these ban-fur-ites wearing. That means no designer shoes Ellen, no leather jackets Ellen, no eating meat of any kind Ellen, no possession of pets Ellen, yes all pets should be banned too under this edict and that means your Toto too Ellen. I once confronted a "ban-fur" protester in SF's Union Sq who was wearing a leather jacket and leather shoes. What hypocrites.

rwpipher

@jayarr8 From shaved animals?!!! For real?? While I am a vegan I have to say that at least leather is from animals that have been slaughtered for human consumption. Animals are raised on horrible farms under horrible conditions or trapped for fur! They are killed, either by banging them on the ground or electrocuted by anal probes shoved up their ass!!!! Believe

me they do not go to the salon and get their bodies shaved!!!!

shalowzi

@jayarr8

When we are talking about "fur", it means the animal skin too. My mom used to have a couple "real fur" jackets, and they came with the animal skin.

I am against "real fur" fashion, which include all leather product (yes I believe we can all survive without those luxury), though I'm not a vegetarian. Some people are hypocrites, but not all of them are.

Just my opinion.