I was actually going to read this article before your idiotic dig at her weight. Pathetic. Do better.
Dramatic and disturbing contradictions are an ongoing theme with Lubben. She says women are universally victimized by porn filmmakers, but she writes in the book, "I loved it. I hated it. I loved the attention. I loved the camera."
As to the men she had sex with on camera, during prostitution gigs and in strip clubs, she calls them "nothing but poles I used to pay my bills."
One of the defining moments in her short career in adult videos came when she was coerced into a gang bang in which the men essentially ravished her, she says. Later Lubben would call it rape, or something akin to it.
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Porn's Statewide Condom Law Dies in California LegislatureBut after a car accident in which her Mazda Miata spun out, God appeared again, and she promised from that day forward to straighten out her life. Then, she says, she met her future husband, Garrett.
Lubben admits that she initially bonded with Garrett over meth, when on their first date, "He walked right up to the pool table and lined it with speed."
Garrett Lubben doesn't deny he was once a drug dealer. Now he's a medical-device salesman and the family's breadwinner.
While Lubben blames her mother's overzealous Bible-thumping for some of her own dysfunction, it was Garrett's upbringing as the child of two pastors that eventually brought the couple to Jesus, and to happiness. She describes her husband as a divine savior whose own religious background provided the glue for their marriage.
"God healed me through Garrett's tender touches," she writes. She says she lost weight, studied law for five years and became an ordained minister via Irvine's Order of Saint Martin, a mail-in school with no campus. She also cites a bachelor's degree in theology from Vision International University, a diploma mill whose units aren't transferable to accredited schools.
Lubben's rustic, Spanish-style McMansion in Bakersfield has thick walls, Pottery Barn decor and his-and-hers matching SUVs in the garage. The Lubbens live in a nicer part of the big, dusty town, down the road from signs advertising "yard art" and the Brazilian Wax Boutique.
Garrett, who has two daughters with Shelley (she also has an adult daughter from an encounter with a "john," she writes), comes off as nothing but a nice guy.
In her book, Lubben describes how she cheated on him early in their relationship, taking money for sex. He forgave her.
During an interview with the Weekly at their Bakersfield home, Garrett was psyched about a European family vacation he'd earned for being a top salesman.
In 2008, after she settled down in Bakersfield, Lubben established the Pink Cross Foundation to offer porn stars a chance to leave the business and maybe do something productive — like work with her nonprofit group. The organization produces low-end videos on the ills of adult-movie work, and Lubben and her recruits sometimes visit porn fan conventions and attempt to rescue performers — with little success.
She says the couple has spent $100,000 of their own money "helping women out." Lubben sees ex-performers who have joined Pink Cross as "girls I have rescued."
Her anti-porn message has taken Lubben to Sacramento to speak to legislators and to the L.A. County Board of Supervisors. After the annual AVN Awards, the Oscars of porn, moved to a smaller hotel in Las Vegas this year, Lubben beamed. "We're making a difference," she says.
In 2009, she found a strange bedfellow at the AIDS Healthcare Foundation (AHF), which gave her a podium and a microphone despite the fact that she once said in a videotaped speech, "Jesus saves ... homosexuals."
"We didn't have much in common," Lubben tells the Weekly, "but we did have in common that we wanted to enforce health and safety laws."
AHF, founded in 1987 to protect gay men from and find treatments for HIV, has been pushing for prophylactic use on porn sets in California for several years. And it has seen some success, with the Los Angeles City Council enacting a law requiring condom use at all location shoots inside the city limits.
Lubben takes credit as the first activist in L.A. to demand reforms that promote condom use on sets.
"I began to stand up and say, 'You're breaking the law,' " she says. "Shelley Lubben was doing this before anyone."
AHF chief Michael Weinstein admits he hasn't asked Lubben to join an AHF event since early 2011 because, he says, the beef between her and Whiteacre, who has taken to publicly taunting her, "is not something we're interested in being a part of." But, Weinstein says, "I'm not disavowing her involvement. ... I think her voice, in terms of her personal situation, having contracted STDs, and her concerns for performers, is 100 percent valid."
Through her foundation, funded with donations, Lubben says she wants the industry shut down, at least until it complies with state and federal health rules banning the exchange of bodily fluids at a workplace. She wants to see mandatory condoms, yes. And a 21-and-older limit for performers.
The industry coerces young women to have types of sex they never intended, and does it on a widespread basis, she says. It particularly takes advantage of women who don't have the education to grasp the fine print in their contracts. When they show up on set, she says, they realize they signed up for hard-core sex, when they had been led to believe they were in for something much more missionary.
I was actually going to read this article before your idiotic dig at her weight. Pathetic. Do better.
Danielle Williams: A Porn Stars Pain
http://www.cbn.com/media/index.aspx?s=/mp4/DN68v3_WS
Sharing her story
Here is another video of an ex-porn star. She has a very similar testimony to Shelley Lubben.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhMGa7Fz10x16Z6576
I'm curious to know if the people who approached her at this event, and posted the videos on YouTube got permission from Shelley & Garrett Lubben to talk to them? As far as I am aware of, California is a two-party consent state, and you must have the consent of all parties involved before you record them if the conversation is a private.
http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/california-recording-law
My question is, did they get permission from Shelley and Garrett to record the content they posted online?
I think, there may be a possibility that the recordings they posting online may be illegal. Lubben should challenge it legally, if no permission was granted.
You'll never outlaw porn and if they managed to they'd just find other ways of getting it, illegal and unregulated ways which would actually further accomplish what Lubben is against spreading AIDS and other STDs. It's like the prohibition which didn't succeed and actually made things worse rather than better.
There are plenty of those working within the porn industry that have documented often emotionally abusive dynamics and physically painful acts, listen to common sense from Sharon Mitchell/Bill Margold who have decades working within the industry, read all the memoirs you can and watch documentaries not sponsored by corporations making money from porn...any man that knows anything about a woman's body should be able to twig multiple anal pounding as shown in porn is not going to bring their lover to the brink of orgasm and has everything to with making an insecure male ego in a more threatening world feel a bit better, that kind of roughness would physically and emotionally hurt those not desensitized or numbed out by past experiences or substances....As for discounting survivors stories, anybody who has worked in law enforcement, social work or psychiatry is familiar with the abusive dynamics of the sex industry...it's obvious...we pick up the pieces daily....This does not mean there aren't people that choose to work in this field, enjoy their jobs and are all victims of abuse...however it is a fairy story to argue these things don't exist in the current porn industry which has little mental health screening or occupational practices in place to prevent abuse of vulnerable people who may have addiction problems. Grudzen et al's research article Pathways to health risk exposure in adult film performers. J Urban Health 2009;86(1):67–78. [PMC free article] [PubMed] objectively outlines this reality. Free speech does not involve stalking, harassing and bullying those that are just trying to tell their stories and experiences and if what is written by current sex workers about ari bass is true and is a flavor of the mechanism of the porn industry, there seems to be more reason to be concerned about the industry and more need for scrutiny than previously thought.
Commenter "Manhattan Call Girl" is sex work prohibitionist mouthpiece "Stella Marr." She claims to have had a nearly ten year career as a NYC escort, yet no one from that community has ever heard of her. In the words of blogger Maggie McNeill, Stella "has created a tissue of lies along the lines of Melissa Farley’s bogus 'prostituted women' narrative so as to support the criminalization of men and the infantilization of women."
As demonstrated in her comment, below, "Stella" is another hysteric who uses a "victim narrative" tactic employed by authoritarians (criticism = bullying) while repeating a familiar logical fallacy rooted in Marxist analysis (if you criticize her you must be a "shill" for the institution she opposes). In her universe, there is no such thing as a consenting sex worker -- they are all victims, by definition -- and thus any former sex worker is a "survivor" (unless, of course, they oppose her view, in which case she calls them "pimps").
Ari wants to rewrite the laws so he can get away with his crimes against society and women.
Tantric sex, on the other hand, now there's the cure for all our traumas, eh? I'm sorry, but I can't help but point out how many alternative or holistic health practitioners are even more fraudulent than anyone claims Shelley Lubben to be.
Michael has harrassed and cyberstalked trafficking/prostitution survivors, sometimes collaborating with 'sex worker activists' who are actually white male or female pimps -- the proof is in the links http://secretlifeofamanhattancallgirl.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/how-the-sex-industry-threatens-survivors-speaking-out-while-pimps-pose-as-sexworker-activists/
A good start would be to get the kiddie porn perverts out of the state legislature.
"it seems to me the best way to reduce porn is to reduce child abuse" I'm at a loss to how that even makes any sense.
You & your pet chimp bring it on Ari. This dog fights back and bites HARD(*CHOMP!*CHOMP!)!
Just so everyone knows, it's not my intention to start this happy horseshit all over again. I said I'd get the source. After rethinking some of the points that were made, specifically the legality aspects, it seems to me the best way to reduce porn is to reduce child abuse. Maybe you won't agree there's a connection, but you'll probably agree child abuse should be reduced regardless. This approach seeks no change in laws making pornography legal for consenting adults, and does not go against freedom of expression. I'm getting ready to enjoy a vacation, so don't reply. Best wishes to all of you, in spite of our disagreements.
The Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children In the U. S., Canada and Mexico Full Report (of the U.S. National Study) Richard J. Estes and Neil Alan Weiner at... www(dot)sp2(dot)upenn(dot)edu/restes/CSEC_Files/Complete_CSEC_020220(dot)pdf
I've got chunks of guys like you in my stool, boy. The last anti-semite to say anything to my face was carried away with my bootprints on his back. I still have those boots.
Interesting Articles About The Sources & Promoters of Porn: http://www.porn-report.com/404-organized-crime-and-pornography.htm http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-te.md.porn03apr03,0,1940819.story http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/jewish_dominance_in_porn.htm http://judicial-inc.biz/85attend_a_two_day_adult_model_con.htm http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/soc.culture.austria/msg00384.html
Yeah "Busty Cops:Witness Protection". That one going to be taken from you by Harold Blueberry & the producers Ari?
All this expertise from the second unit director of the classic"Alabama Jones and the Busty Crusade".
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No federal appeal, Anthony. It's a matter of interpretation of a state constitution. Only if the section was addressed to limiting or impinging upon federally protected rights would there be a federal issue. States are free to grant added freedoms/protections to its citizens. In cases such as this, the state supreme court has the final say.
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I type at a 3rd grade level. here's what your hero & leader Ari Bass wrote:"Ironically, it was Shelley Lubben, not I, who had to go to rehab late let summer.". late "let" summer?
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Yawn all you like, my little sweaty, bloated, drunken, self-important, cloying reprobate.
You write: "There's nothing to verify that AIDS was contracted off the set, anymore than on the set." With respect, you quite simply don't know what you're talking about. Porn performers are tested every 28 days or less. If ONLY ONE performer who worked in a number of scenes tested positive for HIV then that MUST mean he or she contracted it off set. For there to be a transmission, there HAS TO BE at least two infected parties -- one who passed it and one who received it. On top of that, viral load and sequencing tests scan pinpoint the specific strain and the time of infection. Since, through the magic of video, one can confirm precisely when the sex scenes in question were shot, this is as close to an exact science as one can get in the worlds of epidemiology, microbiology and bio-statistics. You also write, "Shelley's story doesn't ring false." Ms. Macmillan, you are entitled to believe in Santa Claus if you like, but the fact remains that NO ONE from Shelley Lubben's past (except for people she employs or who have the surname Lubben) remembers events as she does -- including her devout Christian, anti-porn family and her devout Christian anti-porn former associate April Garris. Finally, you write: "She is the only one who describes her demons, mental contradictions, rescue efforts, and the porn industry's demons in black and white." I guess you've never bothered to watch 'The Devil and Shelley Lubben'... The case against her is pretty black and white: in most instances Lubben herself has made the most damaging case against herself, with her constant revisions and additions to her fictionalized life story, and her endless contradictory statements.
Shelley's story doesn't ring false. She is the only one who describes her demons, mental contradictions, rescue efforts, and the porn industry's demons in black and white. It's her critics who present a 'please drink responsibly' grey area type language. Not that crashing on the roads and dying 'responsibly' from drunk driving feels any less painful. Her critics don't disagree with her. They just sugarcoat their claims. There's nothing to verify that AIDS was contracted off the set, anymore than on the set. There's just heresay. But Shelley's critics admit there was AIDS among their 'stars'. And why would the L.A. Weekly offer her wine, and say that it's good and bad at the same time, indirectly? It's 'cool' that Ron Jeremy considers something to be not true and a fact, at the same time. But hey, I guess we all float on the magic carpet ride of cloudy word usage...that is..except for Shelley. If you plan not to post this..please do so, responsibly. The edit button is my friend.
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I support the end of the industry, at least as we know it, but only by legal means. No need to prove to me scumbag Donny Long was responsible. Still, I'll look into those videos you mentioned.
In Greg/Mace's video (which insanely claims that I -- one of the people who helped bring down PornWikiLeaks -- was in fact the man who created it, even though it is a matter of historical fact that Donny Long created that hate site), he himself cites two of Lubben's underlings (one is Pink Cross' VP) as sources. And now I have Garrett on video admitting that Mace got my private info because someone gave it to Shelley. That video may be found on the 'anthonyjkenn' YouTube channel, under the title (not composed by me) 'Michael Whiteacre Destroys Garrett (Hubby of Shelley) Lubben - -Part 1.' Another video, on the 'jordanowen42' channel, dissects Greg/Mace's video (which YouTube removed following my complaint): 'Response to DJravenwolf, loyal Pink Croes defender.' Yet another video called 'Doc Dropping Twat Fails To Fool Anyone' on the 'adroitism' channel has more info. Decide for yourself.
If what you say is true, you deserve justice. No matter how hard a game of hardball is played, the procurement and use of personal information against anyone who does not want that information known to the public is unacceptable. I defended the rights of porn performers during the PornWikileaks scandal for exactly that reason.
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This is America. She is free to express her opinion. The woman is not hurting anyone. If you don't like what she has to say, don't listen. Simple as that. I would think that the porn industry would be more concerned about the DEA.
@sistersledge111 The majority of those posted were filmed by an attorney. Yes, he knows enough to get permission on camera prior to recording and publishing.
I'm not surprised you're at a loss, considering you're also biased against EMDR therapy which when used by a certified practitioner actually works wonders for sexual abuse survivors.
No, a-hole, my next production is set in Omaha. I don't think you'll like it.
Name a time and place. I'll even have cameras there to capture every glorious moment. The winner gets the video.
@Tbpropsfx Except that she IS hurting people. She is hurting Christians who mean well by fleecing and defrauding them. She is hurting industry performers by claiming to be a Christian minister, and then treating them abusively all in the name of God, turning them off further from any interest in the real thing. She is absolutely hurting people.
