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Los Angeles Gadflies on Fire

City Hall politicians want them gone

As Councilman Tom LaBonge looked down at the comment cards for item 15 on March 23, he may have felt a sense of dread creeping in.

Live from Van Nuys: Gadflies Donna Pearman, left, Rick Nightingale, Zuma Dogg and Miriam Fogler
PHOTO BY HILLEL ARON
Live from Van Nuys: Gadflies Donna Pearman, left, Rick Nightingale, Zuma Dogg and Miriam Fogler

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He read the names out loud: "Arnold Sachs, John Walsh, and Mr. ... Bonge? Is there a person Bonge here?"

Some jokester, no doubt. After that came Zuma Dogg. Another gadfly. They were all gadflies.

"Today's item on the agenda," droned Arnold Sachs, a stickler for procedure, "only mentions the downtown stadium and the event center. What about the new [convention center] hall? What's going on?"

"Point of order," said John Walsh, speaking next, his arms waving about like some mad conductor. "You just voted unanimously on 12 and 13. Garcetti wasn't at his desk! Is one and one three now? Mr. Clerk!"

"Mr. President," interjected the city clerk, "he's not talking about this item."

"Please talk to the issue," LaBonge admonished.

"Don't worry, you'll keep your job," Walsh spat at the clerk. "Hollywood highlands dot org ...," he said, plugging his blog and website.

"Mr. Walsh, thank you."

"I've got three more seconds left!"

"OK."

"Hollywood highlands dot org. You're garbage!" retorted Walsh, surrendering the podium.

"Thank you," LaBonge said. "Mr. Bonge was next, then Mr. Dogg."

Matt Dowd, an aging hippie from New Zealand, ambled up and corrected: "The name's La Bong," drawing a few chuckles.

After Dowd came co-conspirator Zuma Dogg (né David Saltsburg), dressed in his trademark black shirt and black knit hat reading "Zuma Dogg."

"In case you're just tuning in on a channel surf, my name's Zuma Dogg, legendary, historic, political icon, voice of the people, prophet. Also mayoral candidate. When the city cannot provide services, cannot provide fire statistics, they're getting sued over cracks in the sidewalk, now we want to spend $100,000, not for anything ..."

Dogg, though overcaffeinated, managed to string together a number of issues vexing the City Council. When time ran out, the city's Channel 35 cameras cut away to Richard Hopp, waiting in the empty Van Nuys Council Chambers, where Valleyites attend City Hall meetings vicariously.

Just then, Dogg interjected a bizarre trumpet sound, distorting the audio equipment. "Sergeant," LaBonge said, "please inform the speaker not to yell like that and break the equipment."

"How dare you talk to me like that?" said Hopp in Van Nuys.

"Richard, I'm not talking to you ...," LaBonge said despondently.

"Excuse me!" Hopp shouted. "I'm speaking now! How dare you! Behave yourself!"

This interaction between politicians and gadflies can be seen thrice weekly — more if you count the Board of Supervisors, LAUSD board and Metro board.

In a new twist this week, a gadfly made headlines after he retorted "Heil Hitler!" to Councilman LaBonge, and in response to that, Councilman Paul Koretz jumped in to dramatically claim he wanted to "clock" the gadfly.

The incident was widely misreported. It's fairly clear that LaBonge illegally stopped the gadfly, Michael Carreon, from citing out loud the individual names of City Council members whom Carreon was upset with for ignoring the testimony of a firefighter from United Firefighters of Los Angeles regarding devastating budget cuts by the City Council. In fact, politicians cannot quell such speech.

Carreon was saying into the microphone: "I sit here as the [United Firefighters of Los Angeles] fireman speaks, and Mr. Parks is in a book, Ms. Perry is not paying attention, Mr. Zine is having a conversation, Mr. Cardenas is talking to his staff —" when Councilman LaBonge suddenly shut Carreon's microphone down, accusing him of breaking "the rules" by not speaking directly to LaBonge.

Carreon furiously replied: "Maybe the chair should learn what the responsibilities and obligations are to sit on that chair! ... The nerve of you! ... The city is going to hell in a hand-basket and you're gonna sit up there and dictate! ... I guess I'll just salute you: Heil Hitler!"

Paul Koretz then jumped in, saying Carreon had been inappropriate and asking LaBonge to do something. LaBonge then dragged in a lawyer from the City Attorney's Office, demanding a legal "ruling" on whether he could do anything about Carreon's comment.

Koretz went on to decry Nazi Germany and say he wanted to "clock" Carreon for his Hitler retort to LaBonge. Then gay City Councilman Bill Rosendahl jumped in to say that gays were also victims of the Nazis — and that Carreon had made "an outrageous statement" as well as an "immoral" one.

Carreon's point, that the City Council slashed the Los Angeles Fire Department budget and now City Council members were ignoring testimony about specific examples of unsafe situations caused by those cuts, got lost in media coverage of this incident.

The 1953 Ralph M. Brown Act mandates that elected officials conduct business in public, and that the public has a right to be heard. "If I lived in New York City," says Walsh, who's from New York, "I would never get within a block of the mayor. The public sits there with their thumb up their ass."

Here, Walsh is free to publicly accuse the mayor, to his face, of being a junkie, as he did at a Metro meeting years ago; or, more recently, to accuse another elected official of having an extramarital affair (Walsh has produced no evidence).

But it was probably the chaos over Item 15 on March 23 that caused Councilman Bill Rosendahl to declare: "Gadflies have taken over the agenda. They have seized every item, they're constantly mentioning their websites. Add to that, some of them are verbally abusive."

When L.A. County Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky proposed consolidating public comments, in part to reduce the time used by gadflies, he was widely derided. His own blog site says the plan is "on hold."

"It would have only affected a small number of people," says Joel Bellman, a top Yaroslavsky aide.

Rosendahl has asked City Council President Herb Wesson to dream up a gadfly-abatement ordinance, but "Mr. Wesson has no plans to create an ordinance," emails a Wesson aide. "Mr. Wesson encourages speakers to conduct themselves in a respectful manner, and will continue to do so."

When the City Council discusses a big issue, such as the proposed football stadium or the widely pilloried gerrymandering of council district boundaries, hundreds of citizens turn up. Each fills out a comment card and gets two minutes. They must stick to the topic and cannot curse but can say whatever they like. This being America, they don't even have to give their real name.

On lesser matters, often the only commenters are gadflies — like Sachs, Dowd, Zuma Dogg and the inimitable Walsh, who dislikes "gadfly" — meaning a pest.

"I'm a pest like testicular cancer's a pest," he spouts. "They lump me together with Arnold Sachs, a homeless Jew. What the fuck is a homeless Jew? I thought that was what Israel was for."

The term gadfly goes back to Socrates, who, while on trial for corrupting the youth of Athens, said, "I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places am always fastening upon you."

Athens needed him, Socrates argued, to point out its inadequacies. The jury disagreed, and he was sentenced to death.

At City Hall in Van Nuys, gadflies include Rick Nightingale, an elderly Republican who favors speeches about illegal immigration. As angry as he seems at the podium, he can be kind in conversation. But he once asked Councilman Eric Garcetti to "step outside" after Garcetti called him a racist.

Donna Pearman and Miriam Fogler are present, too; their comments vacillate between incisive and utterly confused.

Raphael Sonenshein, a government expert at California State L.A., says gadflies "often have an unusual level of expertise, especially on rules and procedures, and they can often correct a public official on that."

Gadflies can do far more. Walsh in the 1990s dug up scandals involving shoddy construction of the Red Line subway, often backed by documents leaked to him from deep within Metro. His scoops helped delay construction and led to improvements on the Red Line.

Nowadays, Walsh has an iPad and enjoys a far less cordial relationship with members of the press, whom he excoriates in emails written in all capital letters.

Says Walsh's friend and HollywoodHighlands.org co-blogger Miki Jackson, "He's putting on a bit of a show, but his information is good." (Both Walsh and Dogg admit to exaggerating their performances in order to attract attention.)

Many at City Hall feel that the gadflies monopolize government time. Avak Keotahian has worked for the city 34 years and has seen gadflies from General Hersheybar, a Vietnam vet, to the articulate Leonard Shapiro, who ran for mayor. He says the current crop is so bad it's "preventing the city government from efficiently functioning."

Retorts Jackson: "People get inside the government and they decide they're royalty. They have these long meetings, and they talk and talk and talk — and they feel resentful because people have two minutes."

What got to Rosendahl finally was the insults. Dogg, a sometime-karaoke DJ with decent talent, does a derisory, funny impression of Rosendahl's frenetic way of chirruping, "Great! Great! Great! Great! Great!"

"We have to sit there, day in and day out, with them yelling at us, calling us names," Rosendahl says.

"Our founding fathers would be appalled," Keotahian says. "I don't see them preserving any kind of First Amendment rights."

But Steven Rhode, a First Amendment lawyer who has represented Dogg and Dowd, begs to differ: "I have read and reread the First Amendment, and I haven't found the section that says free speech only applies to ordinary people."

Reach the writer at hillelaron@mac.com.

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Socrates Acolyte
Socrates Acolyte

If Avak Keotahian was correctly quoted, he is obviously an imbecile.

First, he is a City of Los Angeles employee who admits that the City is not efficiently governed.

Second, he has the gall to blame people whose time speaking before the City Council is relatively minimal for this state of affairs, rather than the disgraceful and/or extremely inept City Hall politicians who have been entrusted with billions of dollars over the past few years and have repeatedly wasted huge percentages of these billions of dollars.

Mikijackson
Mikijackson

If we timed these meetings we would clearly see that public comment by the individual's singled out by the grumpy Council members is a tiny fraction of the meetings. If Rosendahl thinks these people so powerful as to be running the meeting with this small amount of input, he must feel that he and his colleagues are very weak indeed. It is ironic that Rosendahl is the chief whiner- he is the biggest talker at City Hall, rarely letting any topic get past his lengthy comments. I would venture that on many days the public commenters he is so distressed by, taken all together, do not speak as long as he alone does, if we add LABonge in then it's a rare day they would exceed the two longest winded Council members.

SZwartz
SZwartz

Gadflies like regular flies are attracted to putridness. Trying to shut up Walsh, Zuma Dogg, etc. is shooting the messenger. None of them would be at City Council, if the LA City Council were not so vilely corrupt.

We have literally BILLIONS of tax payer dollars disappearing into the pockets of the developer friends of the Councilmembers, while the City's infrastructure is crumbling. In order to make certain the the CRA $ continued to flow to the developers, councilmembers lied to the public about their ability to use CRA funds for infra-structure and for fire and police, and they also used bogus data to pretend that it would safe to cut $200 Million from the LAFD budget. As a result of the extra long response times, people are being seriously burned and most likely dying, but the City Atty directed the LAFD to withhold any more data under the ludicrous pretext that it violated HIPPA. There is a criminal investigation into the death of the fireman in CD #5 which may have its origin in the city council's cutting the staff so that there were not enough inspectors to check out the property and hence the property was inherently unsafe. One dead fireman and another $52 Million to Eli Broad for his parking lot!

The gadflies will leave after the felons on the city council are doing time at Folsom, but until then, we need ZUMA DOGG, etc. BTW, Zuma Dogg won his federal lawsuit.

anonymous
anonymous

The budget that needs to be cut is of the incompetent Trutanich and his useless team of overpaid attorneys.

SZwartz
SZwartz

We really do not know if the budget needs to be cut. Also, the word "needs" can be applied in two ways.

(1) If you means that we have to spend less to balance the budget due to lack of income, that is one form of "need."

When running for CD #4, Stephen Box pointed out how the city had carelessly failed to use a lot of state and federal money which was available. Then maybe we need to make certain there are not millions of dollars which the city is failing to pick up. Also, is the city still playing hide the sausage with the CRA funds. Due to the city's incompetence and addiction to lying, we do not know if we need to cut the budget.

(2) If you mean we have to spend less because the City should not provide services, that is a another form of "needs." We can chose to live in a Hobbesian state of nature or promote the general welfare. People form governments to accomplish the latter. That requires a consideration of which services should the City provide. People disagree. I think the City should not have given billions of tax dollars to developers; the developers think we should give them tax dollars and reduce the fire department to make certain we can continue to give them money.

Which you would you have chosen? To downside the new Hollywood station by 75% or give $52 M to Eli Broad for a parking garage for his art museum?

Guest
Guest

interesting article...although, the case of who is ordinary and isn't often depends on what exactly is being protested...

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