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03/28/2012 1:06:00 PM
Smarty Test Prep App for the iPad is only $9.99 and has everything covered on these admissions tests to help eliminate the stress for the CHILD (knowing what to expect), why would someone pay hundreds of dollars for one of these books????????
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Gina 02/28/2012 2:24:00 AM
My son has gone to a charter school for two
years, we were the only lottery pick for
kindergarten. My younger son was supposed to attend in the fall and I was
told siblings are no longer guaranteed entrance because the state changed their
laws. I have planned on sending my younger son and was never told of this
new state law. Could anyone confirm if this
is correct? I am Extremely upset over this
Gina@trifitla.com
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02/06/2012 3:09:00 PM
why travel when you can sit at home and hawk your wares on ebay?
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11/03/2011 6:12:00 AM
my neighbor's step-sister makes $82 hourly on the internet. She has been laid off for 5 months but last month her check was $8649 just working on the internet for a few hours. Read this site www.MakeCash10.c0m
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guest 11/01/2011 9:43:00 PM
The administration can confirm that no parent has ever volunteered 3 days per week, 7 hours per day in this facility. The school administration also does not deny any parent access to any committees.
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10/29/2011 6:54:00 PM
Yup, just another example of theTPs Future of America - more wealth equals more of EVERYTHING, period. In such a future, the son of a traveling salesman could NEVER become the worlds richest man...
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10/28/2011 6:21:00 AM
Palisades has an attendance boundary:
* http://www.palihigh.org/ourpages/auto/2008/1/31/1201801274118/Palisades%20Chtr%20HS%20Attendance%20Area.pdf
It's not the same as a non-LAUSD charter school
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10/28/2011 6:19:00 AM
Where can I read more about this?
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Kim 10/25/2011 10:39:00 PM
I think Charters get a bad rap when it comes to special needs children. My son was a special needs child when we applied to the Arroyo Seco Museum Magnet for kindergarten. We were sent a letter form the magnet saying his name was thrown out because they could not accommodate children with special needs. We thought about suing, (years later, I still have that letter) but decided against it when he got into a charter that welcomed him and accommodated him. Not one of the charters discussed here - a $50 donation there made you one of the richer donors, and there were not a lot of white kids in his school. But I think Charters as a whole get a bad rap.
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Concerned Parent 10/25/2011 9:40:00 PM
The thing I find most interesting in all the charter/public/private debate is the statistics that claim to show what the diversity of certain charters are vs the diversity of the "local" public school. That is not a fair assessment. To be factually accurate, you need to find what the diversity of the neighborhood is, that surrounds the public school---including those that opt out of public school for myriad reasons. Parents who create charter schools from the ground up, whether selfishly or altruistically, are doing a huge service to the community at large. I know many that spend as much time working on the establishment of the charter school, than they do on their regular jobs. They work on weekends for the school all with the hope that LAUSD grants them the charter. They are showing, by example, that if you want to change something to make it better, DO something---don't wait for others to do it---or you will be waiting for an awfully long time. This is the greatest lesson that comes from the charter movement. Painting all charters with the same brush is not only unfair, but it is also inaccurate.
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10/25/2011 6:36:00 AM
The FF program was in the LFCSA charter every year including the one just approved last year by the LA Unified governing body. This was a whole lotta nothing. Maddaus article is so full of cynicism its disgusting.
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EH 10/24/2011 4:32:00 PM
Your analogy is interesting, you just need to take it a step further... when descendants of the original colonists moved westward, were they not "founders" of the new territories? I think there is a legitimate argument that LFCSA needed additional support to build the new campus (which they secured, built, and paid for with no support from LAUSD). However, I fully agree that the program should not be allowed to run once that need is satisfied.
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EH 10/23/2011 11:31:00 PM
Just FYI, your posts reek of bitterness and anger. I live nowhere near Carthay Elementary, but given the likelihood of running into someone like you there, I would avoid it at all costs... with your contributions here, you're not doing those other involved parents and teachers any favors.
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EH 10/23/2011 11:24:00 PM
The minutes from the latest LFCSA board meeting are up on their website, and the Founding Families program is being phased out immediately. Glad to see it happen, but really, the whole article was much ado about very little, with fewer than 5 students admitted this way each year.
On the other hand, the discussion about outreach (which the author of this hit-piece chose not to focus on, but is much more interesting and pressing, in my opinion) seems to be generating real interest on the board. Hopefully we'll see a more concerted effort to diversify the student body and provide a more welcoming environment for local parents. Making evening meetings kid-friendly would be a nice gesture. Not everyone has a nanny (or even a spouse) they can leave the kids with to attend meetings...
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Guest 10/23/2011 6:22:00 PM
Maybe I am projecting. Your theory that it's all because of lack of outreach makes no sense either however.
Your theory, from what I can tell, is that hispanics at these schools don't care enough or aren't smart enough or something about their kids education enough to find out about all the alternatives that are available to them. You feel they need "outreach" - ever more and more "outreach" - and I suppose that if charter schools never mirror the demographics of their surrounding neighborhood (which I'm almost certain they never will, but that's another explanation), then it will always be someone else's fault other than at least considering the possibility that maybe, must maybe, they just don't want to go there.
At least I give them the credit that the they care just as much as anyone else about their kids, that they've looked and that they've made the decision they feel is best for them.
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Brian Dolan 10/23/2011 6:02:00 PM
This makes me laugh. I was asked to be interviewed for this article and I refused, stating that the LA Weekly writes mean things about nice people. I said this directly to Gene and he denied it. This article definitively he proves me right. The parents at Los Feliz are attempting to take a pro-active stance to help the entire LAUSD community. You have to have true blackness in your heart to stand in a room of excited, friendly children with supportive, loving parents and decide to cast it as some kind of conspiracy. Typical world-weary, counterproductive and frankly mean-spirited LA Weekly reporting. Thanks, Gene!
BTW, for those of you out there who actually know how accomplish something beyond mud-slinging, you probably understand that a school requires a variety of skill sets. Selecting founding parents partially on the basis of how they can help the school is smart management. Good leaders deliberately bring in a variety of skills, backgrounds and viewpoints. They don't pick their advisors on a lottery system. This is a lesson you learn when you have to go beyond throwing darts at people and actually execute a complicated plan. Give it a shot, Gene. I know, it's easier to be the cynically self-absorbed whiner in the corner...
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Sdmcmla 10/22/2011 4:34:00 PM
What is your problem with the English language dude? It can be 10% per class AT THE TIME OF FOUNDING. If you were not one of the families involved in the creation or "founding" of the school, by definition you cannot be a "founder." Let me break it down for you. If you were not around before 1776 and say showed up in 1876, no matter how great an American is, you cannot be a founder. Period.
And, the fact that Larchmont Charter changed their practices without any change in the statute, showns that their administration is fully aware that they were not following the rules and were cheating. It's called consciousness of guilt.
Writing a factual article is not deamonization. Nobody likes to be called a cheat. But if you break the rules, expect to be called on it when you are receiving public money that is siphoned from real public schools. When someone offers to sell you a real diamond ring for $5, you know something is wrong; and if someone tells you that you, too, can get your child admitted as a "founder" three years after a shool has opened, you, too, know something is wrong. If you choose to look the other way rather than insist that the organization change to follow the law, then expect to be labeled accordingly.
The bottom line is everyone is entitled to their choices for their own child's education. But a public education, paid for by the public's money, needs to be truly open to the public, not to the select few who are willing to break the rules for their own benefit.
And yes, I agree with you everyone needs to work locally to make the world better.
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Gimbap 10/22/2011 3:22:00 AM
Sorry, but that preference category has always been capped at 10% per class, period. Let's stop calling people "cheaters" for simply following the rules at the time and trying to get a better education for their kids.
There are great public schools like Carthay or Third Street Elementary. It is doable. Go make your neighborhood school great! Build something. Make the world better. While you're at it, STOP demonizing other parents for making different choices and working to get a good education for their children!
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Sdmcmla 10/22/2011 2:32:00 AM
Because of all that. Yes. And because of cheating. That's some message to teach one's children.
Oh, yes. And I am a founding parent at a Los Angeles area charter school. One that does NOT cheat.
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Smcmla 10/22/2011 2:29:00 AM
Ha.Ha.Ha. It is indeed laughable that a person would think that their child's education could be impaired more by a school that is "getting better" than it would be by having closed-minded parents who jump to conclusions about the quality of an institution based on where the kids on the block where their friend lives go to school. This sting of comments is indeed comedy gold. Perhaps there are some folks who do belong in places which compel one to hold one's nose. Sad.
However, to any parents in the Carthay area who have the intelligence to go in and meet the amazing principal of Carthay Elementary; to check out the classrooms with ipads and SmartBoards, tour the school and its award-winning garden, talk to the kids about Fresh Fruit on Fridays, the Health Fair, Movie Nights and all the PTA sponsored activities, evaluate its hands-on science program, and read the Carthay Views Literary Magazine that has been published for over thirty years, to these parents I would say determine whether the school might suit your own child based on an actual evaluation of the school's program and your own child's needs. You might be surprised at what a wonderful neighborhood school sits on your doorstep. And, whatever your decision, you would know that you had done a good job as a parent by evaluating the facts and deciding what was best for your own child.
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Sdmcmla 10/22/2011 1:55:00 AM
Ummmm. Its 10% at the schools that don't cheat. By definition, if a person was not around at the time of "founding" they cannot be part of the 10% allocation for founding families. This is America. Nobody gets a pass to claim they don't know what a "founder" is so they thought they could apply a "founding" family designation to persons trying to enroll years after the school opened.
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Not a Founding Parent 10/22/2011 12:30:00 AM
What makes this country special is that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, hence we are having this open discussion about charter schools. What makes this country truly wonderful is that there are some very special people who are willing to step up and make a difference in this world.
There are no Dummy’s Guides on “How to Start a Charter School”. Fortunately, there are some highly dedicated founding parents. They literally came together with an empty clipboard and started jotting down what they needed to make a better school….classrooms, teachers, chairs, students, curriculum, books, library, playground, band aids….I am pretty confident that I have left off about 95% of what was needed to start up a school because I am not a founding parent.
What makes a “start up” charter even more challenging is that these schools are not “conversions” from existing LAUSD elementary school campuses that have actual libraries, classrooms, playing fields, auditoriums and the such. Start Ups have to come up with creative ways to safely house and teach their students. Los Feliz Charter is in a warehouse in Glassell Park and their playground is a converted asphalt parking lot which is adjacent to the railroad tracks. Larchmont Charter is a tenant at an old orphanage who has lost its classroom spaces and administrative offices from its landlord. As well, the school has moved or opened up classrooms in three separate locations within the last two years. I would not consider their situation as ideal.
Yet, because of dedicated founding families, parents and faculty, Larchmont has been able to post extremely high API scores and create a diverse campus that “actually” represents the true demographics of the City of Los Angeles. We should consider what they have created so other parents do not have to worry about their children's education.
It is time to stop typing and pick up a clipboard.
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Em dore 10/21/2011 10:49:00 PM
Wow this was a divisive article. I feel that my earlier comments were misconstrued by some parents. My child attends Glenfeliz Elementary School which is a public school in the same district as the Los Feliz Art Charter. I have absolutely no problem with the Los Feliz Arts Charter or the parents who send their children there. We have close friends who attend the school and I totally understand parents wanting what's best for their children. I just know the lottery process to be accepted into the charter schools can be tough and I wanted to tell the parents whose children weren't accepted at one of the charters to please take a closer look at their local school.
I signed my son up for the lottery for the Los Feliz Arts before he started at Glenfeliz because I was apprehensive about the state of our public schools. However, once my son started at Glenfeliz, I was surprised and excited to discover passionate and committed parent groups, as well as some truly exceptional teachers. A space eventually opened up for my son at the Los Feliz Arts Charter, but by that point he was so happy with his class and his teacher that I decided to leave him at Glenfeliz.
The parents at Glenfeliz have created an incredible Homework Club/Enrichment program that my son also loves. Since enrolling in the program, he has taken yoga, soccer, dance, art, theater, chess and gardening. We are in the process of installing a reading garden and plan many, many events to bring our community together, including family reading nights and our upcoming Spring Festival. Our neighboring school Atwater Elementary School has an equally dedicated parent group. If you're zoned for one of our schools and you didn't make it into one of the charters, please stop by and check us out.
Everyone talks about how LAUSD teaches to the tests and that's true to a certain extent, but there are still many excellent teachers in the district who find ways to engage children. I stand by my statement that, in every school situation, you get out of it what you put into it. If you have even a little bit of time and energy to put into your local school, I think you might be surprised to find that they have a lot more to offer than you might think.
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JudiAU 10/21/2011 9:37:00 PM
90% of charter school placements are from LOTTERY.
A maximum of 10% may be used for FF. The schools DON'T CHOOSE their students, the parents chose the school. Demographics are determined by lottery.
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Guest 10/21/2011 9:00:00 PM
The Carthay area comment makes me laugh. We just moved to Carthay and the area has many, many children. We have friends who live one block on a block with 17 kids. None of whom attend Carthay... And neither will we. I am not going to risk my kid's education in a school that is "getting better." Just like everyone else in my neighborhood I'll be apply to magnets and charters and (cheap) private schools and hope I don't have to hold my nose at the results.
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Gimbap 10/21/2011 7:17:00 PM
There seems to be some common themes presented by critics of charter schools that should be explored in detail.
The first theme - we need better neighborhood schools. Complete agreement across the board there. In fact, with the exception of a handful of libertarians, you might even get 100% of the community in favor of that goal. Why then, are we so not there?
Part of the problem is lack of resources. Places like Austin Texas or Charlotte NC have excellent public schools. Texas, ironically as a Republican state, actually prioritizes public education. They charge property taxes based on market rates and adjusts them annually with the radical notion that people who can afford more should pay more for the public welfare. They charge a separate school tax. Those places have achieved a consensus that the quality of public schools are an important social institution that must be preserved. The top 8% of each Texas public high school graduating class is GUARANTEED admission into the University of Texas, which is not a shabby school.
In California, we have Prop 13 and a political consensus that is the exact opposite. To be blunt, in California, we don't want to pay for someone else's child's education.
But it isn't all about a lack of resources. High performing charters systemically have LESS resources than neighborhood public schools, but yet they still outperform them most of the time - because of a superior organizational CULTURE. A charter school's very survival requires parents, teachers, and school administration to problem solve TOGETHER and do so constantly. It is this culture of embracing education as our COLLECTIVE DUTY - that sets us apart from most neighborhood public schools.
The second theme - if we didn't have charters, then all these energetic parents with disposable income would come into the neighborhood schools and somehow fix the problem.
I completely disagree with that one. In neighborhood schools, parent involvement is contained, channeled, managed and used as a convenient "booster" resource by the school bureaucracy. In high performing charters, parents control the governance of the school through the board of directors, and are a mission critical driver of the school's quality and health. The school's leadership is accountable to parents for the educational outcomes, and in return, the parents are accountable for the school's fiscal health.
At Larchmont Charter School, parents take an active part in enriching the experience of our children by volunteering to run events such as the World Fair where we celebrate our cultural diversity, or the Jogathon where our children experience distance running while raising money for the school. There are countless other activities that parents have contributed ORGANICALLY as a direct result of their love of their children and the school. These avenues of passion and creativity are SYSTEMICALLY curtailed in the neighborhood school.
Let's face it: the birth of high performing charters is a direct result of the failures of public education in Los Angeles - it is a cause and effect relationship. Until that neighborhood schools improve, the demand for charters will only increase.
Let's stop begrudging charter schools for being different and let's stop demonizing parents who have made a decision to seek something better for their children.
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Gimbap 10/21/2011 7:15:00 PM
The lottery system places the geographic scope of charters into a broader area so we do have students coming from all over LA, unlike neighborhood schools that are assigned by residence. Therefore high performing charters CANNOT and SHOULD NOT be compared to neighborhood schools, from an ethnic / cultural or socioeconomic perspective.
High performing charters are striving to be reflective of a broader area. For instance Larchmont Charter School's attainment of 40-50% free or reduced lunch households is PRECISELY reflective of that population in LA County, where those households consist of 40% of all households. (And yes we have active Latino families at the school.)
So we really need to drop this argument that somehow these schools are not representative of the immediate 4 block radius because it is simply not true and missing the point.
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francoise 10/21/2011 6:10:00 PM
There are many charter schools that have healthy Hispanic populations (they do drive and prioritize their children's education just like you ) and outreach does work, people like to feel welcome : )
Your assumption that Hispanics prioritize the "luxury"of walking to school and that neighborhood schools have "scripted" instruction demonstrates that you haven't looked around.
Your rationale for why Hispanics don't attend Larchmont:
a) many can walk to school every day (quite a luxury compared to what these charter school families have to go through)
see above
b) 70% - 90% of the kids there will look just like their kids
like Larchmont? you are projecting
c) where the teachers will look just like them, and be trained and/or experienced specifically to meet their needs (learning english as a second language, for example)
are the teachers at Larchmont/Los Angeles not equipped to support ELD students?
d) where most everyone is the same socioeconomic background as them
again, you are projecting
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Guest 10/20/2011 10:31:00 PM
As far as I know, LAUSD is simply not going to abandon its teach-to-the-test, heavily scripted style of teaching and curriculum anytime soon.
So, if you don't want your kid to go through that system, and you can't afford private school, then your only choice is charter schools.
Thus, saying that these parents who want something better for their kids should focus their energies on neighborhood schools, when it is simply impossible to change LAUSD's teaching philosophy, is, with respect, absurd.
As far as your comments about race goes - a lottery is a lottery, no one can force the hispanic population from the surrounding neighborhood to apply.
The popular explanation in these comments for why hispanics aren't applying seems to be that there isn't enough "outreach" to the neighboring community. Various things I've read said by the schools say otherwise.
One possibility that hasn't been mentioned which I think is just as possible is that many hispanic families compare sending their kid to a charter versus sending their kid to a neighborhood school where:
a) many can walk to school every day (quite a luxury compared to what these charter school families have to go through)
b) 70% - 90% of the kids there will look just like their kids
c) where the teachers will look just like them, and be trained and/or experienced specifically to meet their needs (learning english as a second language, for example)
d) where most everyone is the same socioeconomic background as them
When you allow that it's possible that at least some hispanic families are thinking this way, it doesn't seem surprising at all that some aren't interested in these charter schools despite being fully aware that they exist.
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francoise 10/20/2011 6:50:00 PM
Many of us do not have the time, energy and finances necessary to support our local school alone - but some of us do and if we all did - we could greatly improve the education of all children in our city and do something noble and true.
Truth is what we are really talking about. The Larchmont Charter response to its families regarding this article states that they are "the most diverse public schools in our community". They are 60% white and 15% Asian - really? The school's demographics are so far out of line with what they should be given that enrollment is lottery-based, it is evident that they have fallen afoul of the mission. When a school with these demographics is surrounded by neighborhood schools with 91% Hispanic Latino populations and 90% free and reduced lunch populations it looks a lot like segregation.
They are now submitting charter applications for new schools in neighborhoods including one in the Carthay area - where they will certainly undermine the efforts of many parents who are committed to improving neighborhood schools that serve all children in their communities. what the neighborhood school reformers have seen over the past few years - is that schools like Larchmont and Los Feliz serve to drain the few hard-working, dedicated, middle class families from neighborhood schools who are enticed by the idea of an organic lunch, project-based learning, and like-minded families (i.e. racially and economically similar). Which all could be brought to neighborhood schools if resources were focused there.
Why do we consider the charter model as a solution to the ills of public education that we face? In the case of Larchmont, and Los Feliz it promotes - or least allows for - families to self-segregrate, further eroding any sense of community - every child in my neighborhood gets in a car and drives to school across town to charter or private school; neighborhood kids often have never even met. Also, charters encourage commuting - more driving - poorer air quality and more traffic.
It's time to ask ourselves what we can do for our neighborhood schools and communities, and be a part of a real solution that embraces all children.
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10/20/2011 6:01:00 PM
As someone directly involved with the LFCSA Founding Families program since 2007, I was disheartened to read Gene Maddaus’ “investigative” article.
What’s presented is an inaccurate distillation of the LFCSA Founding Families process. The offensive front page cartoon depiction, the salacious headline, sub-headlines and article content suggesting our school is “cheating” and lottery spaces can be purchased are complete mischaracterizations and fabrications serving only to incite an uninformed readership while degrading the time and efforts of parents who give so much of themselves in support of their children’s education.
It’s unfortunate the Weekly chose to devote so much column space to an article which fails to present a balanced, factual look at the Founding Families program, its vital importance to the school and its overall impact on the school’s admissions.
The article's errors could have easily been corrected had there been any effort toward fact checking prior to publication. I spent a significant amount of time talking with Maddaus and, in addition to being misquoted, the information I provided was distorted or taken out of context simply to serve the writer’s goal of creating a story where none really exists.
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Linda Marten 10/19/2011 9:18:00 PM
Just another thought.....After reading this article, I realize how much the middle class is getting pushed out. The upper class have the money and maybe the time to be involved in the school in order to get their child admitted into the best schools and the "school lunch" lower income families get their child in because the school has to allow for them. Where does that leave the middle class that has less money, less time but is actually the stabilizing force in an economy?
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10/19/2011 9:00:00 PM
In regard to leaving, it's really for academic reasons, my son came into Los Feliz with an advanced math and english level, he hasn't been challenged enough and we need to get him back on track.
Even if we did compare the demos to Mt. Wash and Delevan, we would still be looking at a diversity level of 50-35%, Los Feliz is probably at 15%, it's a concern.
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Linda Marten 10/19/2011 8:55:00 PM
Very interesting article. Thank you for taking the time to report on this. Parents are overwhelmed with all the choices in schools now. I believe underneath all of this is our need as a nation to truly value quality education for everyone. If so, are we willing to pay the taxes to support our schools? We are the most powerful, richest nation in the world and yet we can't seem to take care of our own people through education and health care, the fundamentals of a strong society. We are all in this together, like it or not. Just being out for my kid only won't work in the long run. Let's hope we can all start to think a little bigger and be willing to work together to build a stronger society for all.
Linda Marten
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10/19/2011 7:17:00 PM
If half of the parents who show up for the "Coffee Wednesday" would take the same amount of time to visit some of the neighborhood businesses and schools (as I did, independent of a budget, flyers or call to action) that would be a nice chunk of the area.
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10/19/2011 7:08:00 PM
Diversity means everything to social development which is just as important as education, in fact it should be considered a part of in school. Its not that hard to outreach. it would be nice to see kids from the commUnity of Glassell park in LFCS as well as Cypress park. it would probably be really easy to set something up with the community centers in those areas and do a presentation of sorts.
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10/19/2011 7:04:00 PM
If the school had no strategic plan to "outreach" perhaps it shouldn't have included it in its charter bid to the LAUSD School Board or in numerous grants. It is disingenuous to go to the neighborhood when you are asking for acceptance and state, on record, that you will do outreach and marketing to the neighborhood, couple that with grants which are SPECIFIC to diversity and socio-economic factors, accept that funds and have no follow thru.
I don't think it's much to ask for deliverables which were used as bait to gain the charter then turn around and state that there aren't funds, or there isn't time or volunteers, or what have you.
This is a priority, only because Los Feliz made it so on record, not becuase I say so, becuase they said so.
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10/19/2011 3:32:00 PM
If, thanks largely to the Teacher's Union, the public school system didn't suck so bad, charter schools wouldn't be necessary. But they do, and parents try desperately to vote with their feet.
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10/19/2011 6:34:00 AM
Mark your words. You are tellling a fact, which can be great to me.It could be regarded as the preparation for my little son.
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e.l.s. 10/19/2011 6:16:00 AM
I am a member of the LFCSA community; my daughter was admitted, via lottery, 3 years ago.
I am a single parent, making low income at a full-time job. (At the time of her admittance, however, I was making more money and we were not a part of the free lunch program-- we were a part of the general lottery, fair and square.) I chose to pursue the charter school "scene" because I am one of those parents who doesn't have the time or money to make the kind of commitment necessary to create or improve our local public school with countless hours of sweat, tears and cash. I am GRATEFUL that other families have the resources to found a school and be there for my child when I cannot be. There are imperfections in the system, but the time and effort that went into this article seems poorly spent; there are greater injustices plaguing the education system than founding families.
p.s. Come to our Halloween Festival this Saturday 10-4, no lottery necessary; everyone admitted free of charge.
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Martha Infante 10/19/2011 3:48:00 AM
Kudos Mr. Maddus for some actual investigative reporting. Creaming happens.
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Em Dore 10/19/2011 3:14:00 AM
My son attends Glenfeliz Elementary school, which is in the same district as the Los Feliz Arts Charter school. I completely understand parents wanting what's best for their child, but in reading this article, I couldn't help but wonder how much better our public schools would be for all of the kids who attend them if more parents chose to invest the same amount of time and energy and funds into their local schools, rather than putting all of their effort into alternative options.
If your child didn't make it into one of the charters, I strongly recommend that you look into your local school. There are really great parent groups at our local public schools, as well as some truly inspiring teachers. Someone commented in the article that you get out of a school as much as you put into it. I believe that's true for every school.
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10/19/2011 1:24:00 AM
With respect, I have to question what you mean by "diverse."
LFCSA, for example, has a much more diverse student body than my local neighborhood school which is about 90% hispanic, and has literally less than 10 white kids in the entire student body.
Which school is more "diverse" again?
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10/19/2011 1:15:00 AM
On what planet does a neighborhood public school have to take anyone who shows up?
I'd like to hear you tell that to a couple I know who live literally one block away from being able to send their daughter to Ivanhoe!
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EH 10/19/2011 12:17:00 AM
Outreach idea: At the F&E fundraising night, have some 2012-2013 school year charter applications available, properly translated into Tagalog and Spanish.
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EH 10/18/2011 11:58:00 PM
Let's check out a few traditional and magnet schools:
Students with Disabilities:
Mt Washington - 21
Ivanhoe - 20
Wonderland - 29
Dahlia Heights - 37
Delevan Drive - 27
Really, I could go on. Your comparison simply reflects the fact that involved parents self-select out of schools with a lot of these students, and congregate into schools with fewer students with disabilities.
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Jennifer Wolfe 10/18/2011 11:22:00 PM
Perhaps you haven't seen strategic efforts to reach out to the community because the school has barely been there a year. Administrators, teachers and parents have literally been painting the school, reorganizing space, writing curriculum, adjusting to an influx of new students, this year and last. People keep complaining about "outreach" but who do you think pays for these things? Who writes the "strategic plans"? Who coordinates the communication efforts? Who forms the committees? You're right that outreach is probably not the first priority today. Education is. Let's plant that root first and let it take hold for a minute or two before we plan for the whole community garden.
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EH 10/18/2011 11:17:00 PM
My reply posted above, my error, my apologies. But to clarify my point, if you look closely at the demographics of the area that Glassell Park El draws from, you'll find that it's quite a bit more diverse than the student body suggests. As you note, this is a systemic problem, but it's not just LFCSA. It's a matter of involved families self-selecting into magnets, Mt Washington, Delevan, or private schools. As I noted above, until this problem is addressed district-wide, I'm not certain it's fair to single out LFCSA as the problem.
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EH 10/18/2011 11:06:00 PM
I hear you, my child attended a school with a demographic very similar to Glassell Park El, and I agree with you about the need for outreach. While we're at it, let's change the name of the school to something that's more inclusive and respectful of the community - the name itself puts some locals off, and makes it seem like the school doesn't really want to be a part of our community.
Too bad you seem to want to leave, I'm sure you and I aren't the only local parents who feel this way, and I think we need to make our perspective felt at the school.
As far as demographics, I don't know that a comparison to Glassell Park El is really fair, a better comparison might be to Mt Washington, Dahlia Heights, Ivanhoe, or even Delevan... You can be certain that many parents up the hill who could send their kids to Glassell Park have figure out ways to send their children to those schools, and until that systemic problem is fixed, I don't think it's fair to single out LFSCA as the problem.
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10/18/2011 10:31:00 PM
I can easily clarify my comment about the student populations, its this simple, Glassel Park Elementary has a population that is 93% Latino, Los Feliz is 15% Latino, and this is what I mean when I say that it seems like you have entered into some other part of the world. My point is simply this; if the school wanted to truly be part of the community in which they have planted roots there would be a strategic effort to reach out to that community. I don't see it in their charter, I don't see it in their bylaws, I don't see it in their strategic planning or in their board, there is no plan to diverse the school and become part of the neighborhood because that just wasn't in the plan (unless they were in front of a school board).
That seems like a systemic problem to me, if not completely off topic...did you hear the one about the founding parents:)
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Andygallschmitt 10/18/2011 8:45:00 PM
Work to change their neighborhood school? Is that a joke? Once you are dealing with the LAUSD, it's impossible to enact change, because every single decision has to go through district channels. That's the whole point of charter schools - they allow freedom and control at the school level.
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EH 10/18/2011 8:26:00 PM
There's an argument to be made that charters are more equitable than magnets. At least the charter lottery process is simple to administer, and for parents to understand. The magnet acceptance process is ridiculously complex with the point accumulation rules. The magnet admission process heavily favors involved parents in social circles where knowledge about how best to "game" the system is exchanged among friends...
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10/18/2011 8:05:00 PM
A few points:
1) If LAUSD's "founding parent" policy is vague, then reform it - don't smear the reputations of schools that are merely following it.
2) Larchmont stopped its founding parent program and LFCSA admitted FOUR families based on the program. FOUR. Wow, that's a giant sized loophole there. Doesn't it seem like after reading the article that a lot of effort was expended to prove something that barely affects anyone? I expected a much bigger payoff for all that buildup.
In fact, compared to other charter school systems around the country, it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect a watchdog like LA Weekly to actually applaud LA's charter schools as being very equitable across the board. But not so much.
3) Both schools are less than 10 years old. These schools are indeed in the process of being founded. LFCSA only just recently found what looks like will be its permanent physical home. Perhaps LAUSD should revise its policy and make it clear who qualifies as a founder and what window of time there should be for allowing for new founders - but again, why smear schools who are indeed very young institutions very much still in the process of being founded?
4) Last, I realize that this article has a limited scope, but it would be nice to see LA Weekly attempt some balance, at some point in time. For example, much is made about how much money is raised at these charter schools. Well, they have to! Students get much less money than LAUSD's neighborhood schools per student, when you factor in rent for the facility that LAUSD doesn't provide.
The article makes a big deal about LFCSA's fancy new facility - but let's not forget that LAUSD has raised millions in bonds to build state of the art schools built by world class architects - and succeeded in having one of the worst drop out rates in the state. Can families at LFCSA float public bond measures to build a new school? Nope.
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EH 10/18/2011 7:50:00 PM
The Los Feliz Charter school draws an overwhelming majority of its students from Northeast Los Angeles, so I'm not sure what to make of your comment about it "looking like the Westside". Take another look at Northeast LA, it isn't as "uniformly brown" as you seem to think, middle class parents here just tend to self-select into magnets, Mt Washington, or Ivanhoe. Now we simply have another option. But yes, I am a parent at Los Feliz too, having transferred my child in after a year in our local neighborhood school. The discrepancy in ethnic make-up between my child's old school and the new was startling, I agree. I would like to see them make that a priority admission area, and recruit more actively from the surrounding communities, most of my neighbors and friends knew nothing about the school. I only stumbled upon it after searching for charters in my area, and got lucky in the admission process. Unfortunately, the school seems to be hamstrung by the fact that siblings get priority, and that this year, there were so many siblings of children who were admitted back before they moved into Glassell Park.
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EH 10/18/2011 7:36:00 PM
Do you propose that LAUSD do the same with magnets, or does your bias only extend to charters? A truthful comparison will show that LAUSD magnet acceptance policies, with the convoluted point accumulation formulas, are even more biased in favor of engaged parents who know how to "game" the system than the charter acceptance policies derided here.
Fact: removing any ability of upper-middle class parents to self-select into a better school will push them into private schools, or to self-concentrate into even more rigidly defined boundaries, and takes them completely out of the system you're hoping to correct. Go back and re-read gimbac's note on % of free and reduced lunch students above.
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10/18/2011 4:53:00 PM
I'm not sure if 2 schools out of the hundreds of Charters in LA is enough of a sampling for this story, in fact, my son has been in 4 charter schools, officially making him double the expert Maddaus became after writing this story.
Because my husband is in education we have had the unique opportunity to have firsthand experience with several charter schools. One of them was awful, two of them were amazing, and now he goes to Los Feliz. The truth is that once you get past the first few grades, it really isn't that difficult to get into most charter schools. Obviously, when a school is excelling in areas such as academics (public or charter) that school is going to be difficult to get into, so who can blame the parents who try to get a leg up.
However, I can't help but agree with some of the comments below. It isn't always pleasant to be amongst these "founding" parents. Los Feliz does feel like a private school, but that's because the culture of the school is set up in a way that is a bit elitist. I do think it's odd that the school is smack in the middle of Glassel Park, but you would think we were on the westside by looking at the class, they aren't trying to reach out in a real way, not in any marketing/promo way I can see. That's also part of the culture and that's where this "founding" parent situation gets sticky, because clearly there was a vision when these parents put the school together, and you either have to fit into that vision or you don't, there's the door.
I can't help but think how awesome some of these parents would be if they would have just worked to change their neighborhood schools, but can't begrudge them for wanting something better for their kids, who doesn't But when that colonization mentality spills through the halls, that's when it becomes a problem. Parents like me move on (we will send our son to the LAUSD, gifted magnet down the block from us), and we will be fine, and they'll keep their school.
Mr. Maddaus has it all wrong, the founding parents aren't the problem, but the’re not the solution either, and at the end of the day his story totally missed the point.
p.s. schools, next time, try to make one of your founding parents a P.R. expert, dodge that bad press bullet.
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Guest 10/17/2011 10:52:00 PM
I failed to mention above all the people use out of district addresses to get into the public schools of their choice. The school administration looks the other way as long as they agree to also donate precious time and money to fundraising causes.
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Coxo123 10/17/2011 4:45:00 PM
By the way, I see the school and PTA always has "money, time and commitment" to set up the coffee time for parents, so it's clear to me where the priorites stand.
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Coxo123 10/17/2011 4:40:00 PM
Within the first week of my son attending LFCSA I asked to join the Glassel Park committee, and made repeated request to both the school and the PTA. During the day of service in Glassel Park, as a volunteer, I once again expressed my interest in the committee.
While working with the Glassel Park Neighborhood Council they were very clear that they were approached by the school to get their "backing" in placing the school, being told they would receive priority placement because of their proximity (this can't be accommodated, so either they misunderstood or were told something that wasn't true) however their request to the school to reach out to neighborhood parents weren't answered.
I brought my concerns regarding the lack of neighborhood representation to the school board, twice, I'm still waiting for an answer.
When the school lost their front office help I volunteered 3 days per week, 7 hours per day for a month, during that time I also asked the school's administration permission to join the Glassel Park committee. I also volunteered for the preschool outreach committee and ended up doing my own outreach to my daughter's preschool (which brought in 3 more families from the area for this school year). I have on numerous occasions translated outreach material into Spanish, or corrected badly translated material in an effort to create some sort of interaction between the neighborhood and the school.
To answer your question, I am not sure how much "time" I have spent trying to join the committee, or doing strategic planning, actively reaching out to the board and school and that is where my "factual" basis comes from, soI stand by my statement and am still waiitng for a callback.
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Mejane1 10/17/2011 5:17:00 AM
This article was written by a reporter who has never started anything in his life except for trouble. Certainly not a charter school. Imagine! Parents committing loads of time and effort to aid their children's chances of a promising future.
Mr. Maddaus fails to disclose in this article that his tactics for getting well-meaning naive "founding parents" to speak on the record was to represent himself as a writer "just doing a story about founding parents." He showed up uninvited on school grounds and orientation events and was met with open arms by optimistic well-intended parents. He is a sneaky snake slithering around the feet of hardworking people just days before the start of school; people who have given hundreds of hours of their time and sweat to help remedy the chasm in Los Angeles public education. With the creation and launch of each successful charter the whole community is raised. As for the single mother who doesn't have the 200 hours to devote to being a founding parent... well, Mr. Maddaus, if your article does what you're hoping it will (revoke charters and close schools), that same mother will have fewer options for good schools to send her children to give them a chance at a bright future. You fail to mention the school lotteries also call numbers to create a waitlist after the initial class has been formed. More often than not, families halfway down the list (at times into the 100's) are admitted. It's not nearly as dire as your ratcheted-up-for-dramatic-effect article would have everyone believe.
You should have been straight with everyone you coward. They were straight with you.
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Guest 10/17/2011 4:32:00 AM
My child transferred to Los Feliz from a very prestigious public elementary school last year, where he had been since kindergarten. Each year the desperate, parent controlled fund raising organization had to ask for more money than the year before. Much more than the charter school. For the record, we lost our library anyway, LAUSD cut funding to pay for the librarian. Parent volunteers cleaned classrooms every day because the janitors were cut back to minimal days. How would charters have a fighting chance if not for the level of parental involvement they expect, while receiving a fraction of the subsidies given to regular public schools?
I find LFCSA to be a diverse, nurturing and excellent academic environment. My child is thriving, and I'll happily admit we lucked out with some of the best teachers I've ever encountered at his former school, so that's saying something.
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Mickey Doyle 10/17/2011 3:52:00 AM
This is scandalous - parents being asked to commit time and energy into their childrens' school.
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Guest 10/17/2011 3:13:00 AM
If LAUSD were to fund independently operated charters with exactly the same amount of resources per student, including free rent, and did a side by side comparison of education outcomes, who do you think would do a better job?
And who is investigating the failure of the public school system?
The real con game is to promise kids that they will get an education that will actually prepare them for the future at most public schools in LA.
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Gimbap 10/17/2011 2:55:00 AM
Larchmont Charter School's mix of 40% free and reduced lunch families is in exact proportion to the general population, since households with income levels eligible for free and reduced lunch comprise roughly 40% of all households in Los Angeles County. For this reason, Larchmont Charter School is ACTUALLY A PERFECT REFLECTION of the socio-economic diversity that exists in Los Angeles.
You are right to bemoan the disproportionate number of free and reduced lunch students in many public schools. There is no doubt that this is a reality - but let's be clear of the underlying reason….. Many middle and higher income families are systemically abandoning public education, precisely because the system is FAILING TO PROPERLY EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN.
Every parent wants the best for their child. The reality is that unless public schools focus on improving the quality of education, the demand for high performing charter schools will only rise. I know this is easier said than done, as the sheer size of LAUSD and the magnitude of the challenges make the task of reform daunting.
However, just because the task is hard, let's not blame high performing charters for the failures of public education. Instead of trying to tear down models of excellence like Larchmont Charter School, why not embrace us, collaborate with us, and make us part of a future blueprint for public education?
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10/16/2011 7:07:00 PM
Don't you people get it???? THERE IS NO waiting list for Charter schools, this is part of their sales and marketing hype. They play up this "lottery" in their local news to drum up more student body. Majority of students will be accepted by a charter school, as the school gets paid based on how many students they have. Naturally they want a large student body as it means more money and funding. Do your research.
http://www.gulencharterschools.weebly.com
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Jennifer Wolfe 10/16/2011 6:30:00 PM
You wrote: "This school lives in a bubble trying to make sure the neighborhood kids don't knock on their door and ask to get in". Not sure what you're factual basis for this is. If the committees are empty it is because parents aren't volunteering to fill them. How many hours have you, personally, contributed to outreach? How much time have you spent researching and coordinating a strategic plan to "reach out" to the Glassel Park community? Have you gone door-to-door, school-to-school trying to recruit new students? Outreach takes money, time and commitment.
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Jennifer Wolfe 10/16/2011 6:20:00 PM
The issue with "founding parent" is semantic. Call it whatever you want. These schools (unlike private schools) need to raise money and pay for costs without charging tuition. Sorry, but Halloween festivals and bake sales won't cut it. Funding from the district covers only a fraction of operating costs. By the way, ALL of my friends with kids at public schools have been hit up for money every year. Some have shelled out 4X what I contribute at my son's charter.
Meanwhile these founding parent "positions" at charter schools are often paid staff positions at private schools (and in some cases wealthier public schools). So charter schools are essentially trading a spot at the school for much needed services and expertise (fundraising, architect services, etc ) that they couldn't otherwise afford. There's a cap on how many slots they can offer in this way; the vast majority of students do get in via lottery. This isn't some nefarious plan to cater to the rich; it's a real-world necessity to keep their doors open.
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10/15/2011 9:38:00 PM
Many LAUSD schools have 90% free lunch students. VERY different from almost 40%. This is a private school using public funds.
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Mlouisehuth 10/15/2011 9:25:00 AM
I knew you were going to post that.
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Sonja L 10/15/2011 1:22:00 AM
So the "best practices" we're to expect Larchmont or Los Feliz to be sharing with the district is not so much about curriculum, it's about getting parents to perform duties that a fully trained (and paid) staff would normally do. They not only pick and choose the students, but the parents, too. So how is the outreach to foster youth or homeless students? Nil is my bet because charters don't want them.
Same as students with disabilities. From 2010 data, Larchmont showed out of a total population of 496 that there were 45 students with disabilities. Larchmont is top-heavy with SLD Specific Learning Disability & OHI (Other Health Impaired) which are types that don't necessarily mess up test scores. No VI (Vision Impaired), Deaf, HOH (Hard of Hearing) or MR (Mentally Retarded now called Intellectually Impaired). While they will claim to take more students with disabilities - they take the easy" ones who don't require more specialized (expensive) services. Los Feliz is even worse showing only 22 students with disabilities out of a total population of 491. Top-heavy with equal numbers of SLI (Speech Language Impairment) and SLD. If the best practices these schools wish to share is exclusive and discriminatory enrollment then we can't utilize that with regular public schools...because it's against the law.
Charters, by nature of the existing laws are allowed to house children in buildings that do not have to follow as stringent codes as typical public schools. They can fudge with hiring teachers that have "pending" credentials or are not properly credentialed to teach students with moderate to severe disabilities (autism specifically falls under this one), yet take a few of them as "tokens' for the ADA. Then norming day comes and they can legally "kick them out" AND keep the ADA funding due to the framework of the block grant funding model. That needs to change so the money follows the child. LAUSD's Carlson Home School program assists with educating children who have medical issues or students with disabilities "in-between" placements when things don't work out in the original school. A Carlson employee noticed recently, in talking to the parent of a special needs student, that they do have an increase in students with disabilities sent to them through charters after norming day. The Office of Inspector General's Office and the Independent Monitor should investigate this as well. It seems to be a con game, nothing more. Charters are public schools and should be taking all students if they want the public funding. If they do not - the charter should be revoked and the school closed.
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10/14/2011 11:31:00 PM
My children also attend Los Feliz Art Charter, we are happy to have gotten in and we realize we are lucky. True it's not a perfect system but the alternative is truly sad. We are not rich! We are a mixed race family..further I personally know a single mother (of African descent and far far from wealthy) that got her child in by working for the school.
As a woman who grew up in Ethiopia and now reside here, I have been saddened and dismayed at the state of the public school system within the LAUSD system. It is actually beyond belief that in a country such as this so little opportunities are provided for our children.
As an example countries like Germany where among the first to allow kids to stand (or move around) during class because studies show that this is the best way for some kids. There are many real problems out there for kids to learn effectivly within the traditional school systems, and there are studies upon studies done in regards to effective learning methods; but are they imployed?
Articles like this create drama and confusion for those who have not experienced the Charter School systems and what they try to provide. I am proud of these schools!
From where I sit the more proactive thing to do would be to expose the traditional school systems and how they so very much fail the kids that are there. (ah! But that's been done many times, it's not a new story is it!)
As a woman from who grew up in a culture where the teachers and the doctors know best, that is if there is a good school at all.....one does not question these things and one goes where they can. Therefore you have lots of kids (like in Echo Park where I live) going to schools where there are drugs available (Elementary mind you, I know I need not tell you this as you are a reporter:-)), where kids are in a lock down SEVERAL times a year because a kid has a gun..I don't want my kids there, do you? And further I will venture to guess that others wouldn't either if a choice was available AND they know about it! Why not to educate, write an article for all those people who don't realize there are better choices and help them get into this type of school. At least then, maybe just maybe, more schools like these would be available to all, at "every corner".
When our school was sharing space with Selma Elementary (in Hollywood) I met a little girl, who while doing her writing I noticed how animated and excited she was, how hard she worked. I was touched by this and I later told her mother. Her mother said how happy she was to get her daughter in Los Feliz Arts Charter she had managed to move her from Selma, she then told me that her daughter is so much more confidant with only a few months at Los Feliz and how well she writes now.
She was very proud! That's what it's all about. Real people, working hard to find their place.
My friend don't lose sight of the small picture, it's about this little girl. One by one that's the way it goes. I could tell you many more stories like this including about my own kids.
Probably, you would do better to encourage and excite our imagination by showing examples of excellence for our schools and finding the positive, for negative only brings more negatives!!
I only wish that this type of education can be offered to all the kids in this country, which has proved to be amazing in it's creative approach to life. But is now pumping out kids who don't like to learn, who don't feel loved and certainly don't use their creativity for the good of the community.
I hope this type of publicity does not make things worse.
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Coxo123 10/14/2011 9:44:00 PM
My child attends Los Feliz and I can absolutely say that the air of entitlement is alive and well at this campus. Parents who treat the school as if it were private. This school lives in a bubble trying to make sure the neighborhood kids don't knock on their door and ask to get in. Look at their "committees" the Glassel Park one is empty, their "outreach" to neighborhood school consisted of sending some parents with flyers over to pre-k's in the area. The education is "ok" but we won't return next year...and in fact, I think that's the point. Unless you're their "target" consumer, they don't want you back anyway.
I'm not anti-charter, as a matter of fact we have had 2 out of 3 WONDERFUL charter experiences, but in those cases it was the accepting and equitable culture of the school that made all the difference.
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Bjnadell 10/14/2011 8:23:00 PM
Setting aside a whole 10% of spots for parents who make an
extraordinary commitment that benefits all the school's students
hardly seems like a compelling example of social injustice, especially
at a school where almost 40% of the children qualify for free
lunch. The article's author would be hard-put to find many elite "private
academies" with anything close to Larchmont Charter's ethnic or
economic diversity. The fact that it has such high scores is a
testament to the soundness of its approach: all children thrive at the
school. The real issue of the story is not the unfairness of
the process, but the anxiety of parents who are desperate for their
children to get admitted to a good school. Their excesses are easy to
mock, but should not blind us to the decades of failure by the public
school system that brought us to this point, a failure which is the
dominant cause of social injustice in our country.
The real solution is to open more of these schools. I look
forward to future LA Weekly articles investigating why these schools
are so successful and in demand. And to hear about the foundations,
donors, and district officials who are lining up to support more and
more of these schools -- until no one has to "work the system" to get
a decent education for their children -- and every school on every
corner is fantastic.
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gimbap 10/14/2011 8:14:00 PM
James, your advice is well received.
The Larchmont Charter School board decided to cease issuing new founding parent status earlier this year.
Also, we may look established to the outside world, but we still have our own challenges. Just like Los Feliz, we do not have a permanent facility which will require a massive mobilization to accomplish.
Finally please don't lose sight of the fact that this preference has ALWAYS been less than 10% per class. I ask that the magnitude of this past practice be kept in perspective. I hope people will not equate that practice with our success. That would not be fair to the other 90% of the parents and our amazing teachers.
Let's focus on the real issue of providing our kids with a better education.
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10/14/2011 6:39:00 PM
Congratulations. When you are finished patting yourself on the back you need to realize that you are an established school and a high performing one not a fledgling charter trying to establish itself. Your school took advantage of a loophole and hopefully closing that loophole or creating exemption criteria will end this. I'm glad you exist and that the children in your school excel. Please don't think that because of your success you get to do things differently than everyone else. The idea that because you are successful you need to continue to auction off spots in the school to wealthy or less burdened families in order to maintain your standard of excellence is absurd. If you firmly believe that this is the case go private. If it is not you should stop selling the hard work of your whole community short.
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gimbap 10/14/2011 6:23:00 PM
My family was one of the original founding families at Larchmont Charter School. We sold our house to move closer to the school after the initial charter was approved in 2005. My wife was part of the core group that worked on the school before we even had a charter. At that time, the board of directors was composed exclusively of parents who shared the vision of creating an alternative learning opportunity for our kids. We raised money, scrubbed floors, painted classrooms, cleaned and fixed toilets, planted trees, gathered donated books to create a library and did a thousand other things that needed to be done to provide an environment that every child deserves to learn in. My first born was part of that first kindergarten class who learned to read and write on benches that parents built with our own hands. That class is now the 6th grade class at Larchmont Charter Middle School.
If you think back, those founding parents at Larchmont had to have been a bit crazy to think we would succeed at something that so many had tried and failed. And do so while subjecting our own children to that level of risk at such an important formative period in their development. We were truly determined to create an alternative learning environment that blends academic excellence, diversity, and one that teaches our children to be curious and confident life-long learners - to think outside the box.
Seven years later and after thousands of parent volunteer hours, Larchmont Charter School has emerged as one of the top performing schools in all of Los Angeles, exceeding the API scores of all public schools in Beverly Hills and Hancock Park's 3rd Street Elementary School. We are doing this while receiving LESS public subsidies on a per student basis from tax payers than other public schools. And we are doing this while achieving socioeconomic and cultural diversity (approximately 40% of students are eligible for free / reduced lunch). At Larchmont Charter Middle School, near 50% of students are eligible for free / reduced lunch and our API score is the 3rd highest among all middle schools in LAUSD. This was accomplished after operating for LESS THAN 3 years.
As someone who has personally experienced the growth of the school and seen the impact this has had on kids, my impression of the article is that it is truly trifling.
Not unlike much of the political discourse we are so used to (and sick of) during an election year, designed with careful precision to divert and obfuscate the real issues…… here we are again – fixating on a topic that had once in the past, LESS THAN 10% impact on the student body make up.
As a parent, the real story is why our public schools are NOT MORE like Larchmont Charter School and what we need to do as a society to get there.
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Mvoedzoe 10/14/2011 6:14:00 PM
Remember Miller's Charter School Law, named after yours truly:
"The success of a Charter school is directly proportional to the percentage of students it rejects PLUS the length of the waiting list."
I sent this law to you a long time ago. Now you see the proof in Gene Maddaus' article "On the
List", published in the October 14-18 edition of L.A Weekly.
My only question is why did it take you so long to figure it out? This very belated article is definitely not a compliment to the intelligence of LA Weekly or its readers.
My solution. Short term. Get rid of the waiting list. Let everyone who wants to enroll in a given a charter school do so. Public schools have to take everyone who shows up - let charter schools do the same. When a public school gets to crowded, then it adopts a multi-track schedule. It's high time that the parents who send their kids to charter schools learn how the rest of the world lives.
Beyond eliminating all entry requirements, let's reform charter schools. LAUSD has magnet programs, as well as honors and AP classes, so why duplicate college prep programs that already exist in public schools?
Instead of college prep academies, let LAUSD create vocational charter schools for the non-college bound. LAUSD can collaborate with businesses and labor unions and found out what non-college jobs opportunities have the greatest need - jobs like plumbers, electricians, auto mechanics, solar panel technicians. Then it should offer hands-on jobs preparations in these areas.
Rather than catering to students with high test scores, let's create charters for students who are not doing well in the current academically-oriented program. Let's create charters for students with special needs as well.
This would be a winning proposal for everyone. LAUSD's drop out rate would increase, since students would find educational opportunities that meet their needs. Test scores in public schools would also rise, since charters would accept only the students who don't excel in standardized tests. Maybe public schools could once again become the first schools of choice, rather than the last.
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Guest 10/14/2011 4:04:00 PM
Your reporter looked at all 183 charter schools in LAUSD and only found one that needed to correct its policies. It seems that the much bigger story here is how passionately Los Angeles parents are looking for high-quality public school options. That holds true whether you’re talking about West Hollywood, East LA or Compton and regardless of a family’s means. To answer the reporter’s rhetorical question, charter schools are absolutely public schools, tuition-free, open to all students and committed to serving LA’s diverse communities.
There is so much demand from parents that many charters have long waiting lists so they must hold lotteries for their limited seats. Charter schools don’t want to turn parents away for lack of space and the answer to this isn’t more regulation – it’s expanding successful schools. For instance, KIPP, which has nearly 500 students on its waiting lists for schools in south and east LA just received a federal grant to help them open three more schools based on their proven model. The charter community is part of the public school system and we work in partnership with LAUSD towards our collective goal of ensuring every student in Los Angeles receives a high-quality public education.
-Allison Bajracharya, Managing Regional Director, Los Angeles
California Charter Schools Association
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10/14/2011 3:13:00 PM
I have no problem with the Founder designation for the first few years of a new school or when a school like Loz Feliz needs a new facility to grow. Those seem like valid exceptions. Many elementary charters start off in shared space on a middle school campus (Goethe, CWCS) and may need a bigger more permanent home. That requires money as LAUSD isn't going to pay their rent/mortage. After a school is established (Larchmont) the founding parent exception is exactly a back door for the wealthy to get into the school and around the lottery. My daughter is in a great LAUSD school but we as working parents with younger children cannot afford to spend time as classroom helpers, volunteers, etc. I think Larchmont overstepped and was gaming the system, got caught and backtracked.
There are enough good charter schools around in LA that parents shouldn't go nuts trying to get into Larchmont or Los Feliz. Goethe is great and growing, Citizens is just starting out so it is a great place to get involved. LAUSD has its own magnets (Open Charter, Kenter Canyon, LACES). The options are out there. There is always the option of going to your local LAUSD school and getting involved in what you can there. If it is a middle of the road school excited and enthusiastic parents can push it to become a high performing school. None of our schools are well funded by the city or the state. Get involved, help our where you can. Find the school that is the right fit for your child, not you, not your friends.
James
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10/14/2011 4:51:00 AM
Good job, Gene Maddaus!!!
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Eco Fem13 10/14/2011 4:02:00 AM
Yea, and I can tell you about the crappy charter schools who have closed suddenly, leaving kids high and dry and they end up at our public school -which has been there for years and will continue to be there, unlike private charter schools
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Get Your Facts Straight 10/14/2011 2:04:00 AM
Dear Disgusted, I did what you suggested and took a look at the data on Palisades Charter High. The only thing that smells is your zany idea that they have ignored the "local population of the school". You are absolutely wrong considering the school is situated in Pacific Palisades which has a white population of 87% as per the 2010 Census. For some odd reason the student population at Palisades Charter is 46% white. God forbid that the school actually diversified its student population to represent the populations outside of Pacific Palisades.
See attached link and see for yourself: http://projects.latimes.com/schools/school/pacific-palisades/palisades-charter-high/
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Disgusted 10/13/2011 10:31:00 PM
It's co-opting a public school, paid for with public tax payer funds and using it as a private school for a select cadre of families, completely ignoring the local population of the school. Now please take a look at Palisades Charter High School and tell the public how it's so heavily populated with white students from the affluent area of Cheviot Hills? Something smells there too. This includes the children of a woman who has repeatedly run for city council and yet has managed to use the "charter system" to send her children to another area school that is also manipulating the system and excluding minorities. Word: Simon Family.
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Not a Founding Parent 10/13/2011 9:26:00 PM
It would have been refreshing to actually see an article in which the author informs the public on how a group of hardworking teachers, inspired children and dedicated parents have actually turned upside down a bureaucratic behemoth such as LAUSD. It is wonderful to see charter schools make such inroads even though there is a deficit of $2,500.00 per student compared to their LAUSD peers. That amasses to around $50,000.00 per classroom. Needless to say that is a lot of pencils, art supplies, books and field trips. I am pretty confident that all charters would gladly give up any "founding parent" policy if LAUSD is willing to fund the deficit between their students and charter school students.
We all know that will never happen.
Essentially, what we have is a bully on the playground taking lunch money from a smaller student. The only difference now is those little boys and girls are inspired to learn and their API scores show accordingly. That bully on the playground has finally realized that he is no longer relevant and that there will be changes to come because there are dedicated parents and teaches who are willing to make a difference.
Now that is a story that should be written.
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Guest 10/13/2011 8:42:00 PM
With this article, you Mr. Maddaus, have single handedly and simple-mindedly hamstrung the few schools that are actually... ACTUALLY... Making a difference on the moonscape that is LAUSD. The "founding parents" you decry are the physical, emotional and fundraising bulwark that keep these institutions alive so they can succeed. Whatever you call them, they giving of themselves and the are doing it all within the public eduction framework because they BELIEVE in public education.
Larchmont's choice to buckle to fear and cancel the founding parent program affected my family directly. I'm mad as hell. But even I know that these schools need more help not complains... And certainly not simplistic attacks from ill informed gadflies such as yourself. Your attempt at righteousness and even handedness is as shallow as your article is long.
Go to school! Learn something.
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Critical Reasoning Ability 10/13/2011 7:15:00 PM
To recap: Gene Maddaus (mad ass?) wrote an article smearing Larchmont for a founding parent program they... DON'T have? Oooh kayyy... fascinating journalistic point of view.
Either Gene is a bitter parent who drew crappy lottery numbers everywhere and consequently has an axe to grind, or the author has never actually been in the trenches looking at primary school education in america.
How about taking the point of view that it's a blessing that there is something between Ye Olde Crappy Public Neighborhood School and the $30K/year private school money caste? How about promoting MORE charters like these blazing the way forward & setting higher standards for better US public education?
Call it a 10% per class parent 'management team' instead of founding parents, so you can discard the prickliness over semantics, who VOLUNTEER to get things done for the good of everyone at that school. I'd support that. It benefits everyone, most of all the 40% poverty Title I / Free Lunch kids whose parents simply can't volunteer because they are working round the clock to meet basic needs. How is this an ugly, elitist thing, exactly?
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Zooots999 10/13/2011 7:04:00 PM
as stated, only 10% of parents are founder parents and, frankly, the school would not exist without them. today's parents want to send their kids to schools where the other parents also value and respect education. and why shouldn't they? they pay taxes for schools and then are presented with horrible options - class sizes of 51 is the latest figure i heard today! so they have to create new options for themselves.
one of the biggest problems with LAUSD and other public schools is that a few kids (with behavioural problems or who don't take school seriously) can be incredibly disruptive and unfairly affect the chances of any student who actually does want to learn. it brings down the whole class. i know that i 'dumbed down' to fit in when i was in a class where other kids didn't respect the teacher or education. any child that does not respect education or cannot behave appropriately in school should be sent to a remedial school that can handle their problems. i have friends who are teachers here and in NY and they would be heartbroken for the good kids who got almost no attention because of the badly behaved kids. it's almost impossible to discipline them within the system. at least when i went to school a good education was considered a privilege, not a right. if you misbehaved enough times and after enough warnings you were expelled.
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A Parent 10/13/2011 6:28:00 PM
This article misses the point. This is a terrific school that educates a diverse student body (40+ % free and reduced lunch) with less money / student than a LAUSD school (thus the need to fundraise). Why attack Larchmont? Why not ask why LAUSD can't do the same? Why not start more charters so more children can get a first class education?
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10/13/2011 6:19:00 PM
There are two factors which predominate in making a good school. Money is not one of them.
(1) The willingness of the students to work very hard at their studies
(2) Students work in groups as opposed to alone at home. Black students who work in very hard but alone at home do not do was well as students who work in groups.
In 1970, I authored an article, Education and the Vato Loco, in THRUST a Magazine for Educational Leadership. I think the magazine is long dead. I hope my article did not hasten its demise.
Applying the principles in the article, e.g. primarily that students work and learn better in groups, we had one East LA sixth grade classroom turn their tables towards each other so that there were 4 or 5 pods, where the children faced each other and not the front of the room. We let the students decide in which pod they'd like to be.
The teacher cut lectures to an absolute minimum and instead she concentrated on individualized "program" work booklets and she allowed the pods to help each member finish the sessions, but with the knowledge that the final test would be without aid. I recall that it was pass-fail where 100% was required to pass. Any gap in mastery at a lower level reduced the likelihood at a more advanced level. Very high standards make children like education better as it allows them to feel better about themselves, provided the school provides the means for the child to actually master the material as this classroom did
While the re-organization had some other features, the group approaching to learning was one of the most significant.
Another vital component, however, was the absence of grades in favor of a Bank Book System. Instead of grades, students were given points. For each page they wrote, they received points. they received bonus points for writing an essay on an article from the Wall Street Journal (It was better back then), they got points for each math chapter mastered, etc. The points went into a Bank Book and then the teacher held an auction for items which the students wanted. Perhaps the most significant was a football. The objective of the Bank Book System was to provide the students with motivation independent of home environment. The points, rather than grades, immediately rewarded efforts which would eventually result in achievement rather than grades which only "reward" achievement after a prolonged period of time. For example, the points allowed a student to write a five page essay at home and then the next morning get his additional points.
There was quite an outburst of activity as the Auction day approached. Interestingly, by themselves the students started to group their points for group bidding and they started loaning points to other students. We allowed these unanticipated developments to proceed as we saw no reason to stop this type of "real life" learning.
The end of the year testing showed that the students made the greatest advances in every subject, far out pacing the all other classrooms in the LAUSD's East District.
All students were of Mexican descent and every student greatly increased his/her rate of learning. When we presented the statistics to the LAUSD, without identifying the classroom or any individual, the District's response was to demand to know who was involved as they wanted to fire everyone.
Moral: The two factors which most strongly correlate to educational achievement do not have to come from the Home. They can be created within the school district itself. This lesson will never be put into practice thanks to the Obama Administration's recent white-wash settlement of the civil rights lawsuit which covers-up of the gross incompetence which has plagued the LAUSD for decades and still thwarts almost all learning within the District.
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Patomail 10/13/2011 6:10:00 PM
This article should be based on actual policies. Not on the movie Waiting For Superman.
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Patrick Ok6 10/13/2011 6:06:00 PM
I am the father of four kids. I didn't bribe anyone to get into any of the schools my kids go to. I did have to fight a vicious legal battle to get LAUSD to provide services for my Autistic son.
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Penn2002 10/13/2011 6:06:00 PM
This article is tremendously misleading.
It suggests that Larchmont Charter demographic make-up is a direct result of the Founding Parent program, or "side door" as this journalist describes it. This is patently untrue. No more that 10% of the children in any class at Larchmont Charter can have gained admission into the school through the Founding Parents Program.
These schools aren't demographically skewed because of the Founding Parents Program but, rather, because the very existence of these schools is not well known in underserved communities. In other words, these schools were started by middle class and upper-middle class white folks who told their middle class and upper-middle class white folk friends who told their middle class and upper-middle class white folk friends and so on and so on...
I'll be the first to say that the fact that, for the most part, the information flow has been restricted to a certain demographic of families is troubling and problematic but it has nothing to do with the Founding Parent Program. The article suggests that the vast majority of kids in these schools got in with a "wink wink" but that's just not true. There are many Founding Parents who have NOT been accepted to these schools.
And, to be fair, let's not forget that there wasn't exactly a line out the door to get into these schools when they first opened. Most people are scared off by the idea of a brand new, untested and unproven school. The families that signed up early on were people who knew each other, friends, colleagues. And yes, sociology tells us that, sadly, most people are friends and colleagues with people who look like them and generally come from the same social class.
Without a doubt, these schools do need to strive to be more diverse, but to suggest that they're not because the system is unfairly rigged is, in fact, to simplify what is a far more complex, wide-ranging and challenging issue.
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Patrick Ok6 10/13/2011 6:03:00 PM
It's a good thing the Weekly is free.
I don't know Gene Maddaus, but I am also positive that he has never left the welfare of his child in the hands of the downtown bureaucrats that run LAUSD.
This should be an article about how committed parents take control of their tax money to provide what the LAUSD has CONSISTENTLY FAILED TO PROVIDE, despite being one of the wealthiest districts in the country. (Belmont High School fiasco, anyone?)
This paper should be encouraging people to overthrow and reorganize LAUSD. I support all parents who are trying to educate their children against overwhelming odds.
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10/13/2011 5:07:00 PM
Shame on John Deasy and the entire LAUSD board of education for allowing this to go on.
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Scanlan8700 10/13/2011 4:22:00 AM
Surprise, surprise, Charter schools are in a rigged race! Relatively affluent parents get to give their kids a better education than those under-served in older schools where the proletariate are crammed together. Teachers don't see 40:1 ratios in Charter schools. Teachers aren't brutalized and demeaned by cruel administrators at the charters after being set adrift by heartless school board members. In one pf these new ghetto-charters, West Adams Prep, the principal is proud of the fact that he let go of 40 teachers last year and is on the war path again. How outspoken do you think the teachers are in that Hell-Hole? The new educational reality, caviar dreams on the public for the haves, a Dickensian work house for poor teachers and students alike. By the way, that reality was brought to you by Tamar Galatzan, Dick Vladovic, Yolie Flores, Steve Zimmer, Monica Garcia, Nury Martinez, Ray Cortines, and current superintendent John Deasy. Let the accused defend themselves in the public school opinion poll. Next time, we'll make the right choice.