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Porn Defends the Money Shot

Critics gain ground, demanding condom use to control AIDS

"I don't think it's the right approach."

AIDS Healthcare Foundation seized on news in August of another HIV scare in porn. After a performer in Miami had an initial positive test from a medical clinic for the virus that causes AIDS, a weeklong shutdown of porn production from coast to coast in early September ensued, affecting scores of major and minor productions.

Luckily for the titans of this industry, it turned out to be a false positive. They got back to work, but not before accusing AIDS Healthcare Foundation and its leader, Michael Weinstein, of being overzealous in their attacks against the porn industry and its wholesomely named lobbying group, the Free Speech Coalition.

Ava Jay on the Northridge set of Vivid's Wild Inside
PHOTO BY STEVE APPLEFORD
Ava Jay on the Northridge set of Vivid's Wild Inside
Allie Haze in Star Wars XXX: a bright spot in a hammered business
PHOTO BY STEVE APPLEFORD
Allie Haze in Star Wars XXX: a bright spot in a hammered business

Weinstein accused the industry of "a full-scale cover-up" in its reaction to the HIV scare, noting that it took nearly a week for the public to find out whether the unnamed porn actor actually was positive and that "the results of any confirmatory tests should already be available" before that.

Because Free Speech Coalition took the lead in publicly explaining the Miami case, Weinstein criticized the group, telling reporters it "is not qualified to investigate a public health outbreak of this kind." However, FSC's leaders dismiss his criticism.

Free Speech Coalition and the porn company that employed the male performer, Manwin, both called for Weinstein to "retract" his allegations. It has been, to be sure, a war of words.

Porn's leaders seem to march in lockstep in accusing AHF and Weinstein of having a profit motive: Many of them allege the health care group wants to take over testing for porn, wants a potentially lucrative contract for inspecting sets, and even wants to get into the highly competitive business of producing condoms — which it would sell to the adult-video business.

"This is about money," says filmmaker Whiteacre.

Weinstein retorts: "We're not interested in doing testing for the porn industry. We already have our own brand of condoms, which we give out for free."

AHF bills itself as "the nation's largest provider of HIV/AIDS medical care," and it had assets of $18 million in 2010. Condoms and porn first appeared on its map in 2004, when a Los Angeles performer named Darren James contracted HIV, apparently during a trip to Brazil, where he worked and exposed 12 female performers to the possibility of HIV-positive status.

Ironically, back then, some of the bigger producers like Vivid, which focused on softer-core pay-per-view sales at major hotel chains, were condom-mandatory companies by choice, so condoms were used for everything but oral sex. But tastes got raunchier, even in otherwise buttoned-up hotels that cater to business travelers, and the condoms came off for good.After the 2004 outbreak (at least three women who worked with James after he returned to L.A. from Brazil tested positive for HIV), AHF took an official stance in favor of mandatory condoms. In 2009 the health care group started to lobby actively for the rule.

That's when the group discovered that using condoms during porn shoots was already required under federal law — albeit a law everyone had ignored.

Senior officials at the California Division of Occupational Safety and Health (Cal-OSHA) say that its interpretation of federal law prohibiting employees from being exposed to blood-borne pathogens (blood, semen and the like) means that condoms are indeed required on set.

And so, after AIDS Healthcare Foundation began filing complaints against companies like Larry Flynt's Hustler video empire, carting boxes of DVDs depicting condom-free sex to the offices of Cal-OSHA, the workplace-safety division started levying fines on a piecemeal basis.

Flynt's company was hit last March with $14,000 worth of fines for failing to require its actors to use condoms. The multimillion-dollar enterprise didn't even feel the tiny sting. Flynt practically yawned, declaring he wouldn't require condoms at Hustler productions.

Cal-OSHA officials admit to L.A. Weekly that resources for enforcing the federal blood-borne pathogens law are scarce during this era of multibillion-dollar state deficits. Deborah Gold, Cal-OSHA senior safety engineer, said late last year, "We realize that strong, consistent enforcement is imperative to our program. We're doing what we can within our resources."

Cal-OSHA lead counsel Amy Martin refuted that stance in a recent interview. She says the state is actively investigating possible on-set violations but reveals that the state is focused on reacting to complaints — not on digging up problems through surprise checks. The lack of "resources has not prevented us from opening inspections based on complaints," she says.

AHF has pleaded with the City of Los Angeles and the L.A. County Department of Public Health to come down on productions that don't require condoms. A memo from the office of City Attorney Carmen Trutanich in April indicated that condom use was required under L.A.'s permitting process, noting, "California Code of Regulations Section 5193 [requires] employees exposed to blood-borne pathogens to wear protective gear. In the event any terms of the permit are violated during the permitted activity, LAPD has the discretion to revoke the permit."

But that's not happening, even as more and more porn actors in Southern California turn to prostitution, dragging unknown pathogens into the acting pool, thanks to the recession and the severe economic hit from free online porn.

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bigt046
bigt046

That photo of Ava jay in the micro-bikini is very sexy. Even though the breasts are too small, I would enjoy trying her out without a condom (raw) and then giving her the money shot in the poop-shoot.

Cheap London escorts
Cheap London escorts

I watch the different porn videos of La Cicciolina. It is very interesting video to watch, the sound of this video is fantastic. Her body appearance La Cicciolina is very nice.

JohnStrange
JohnStrange

Who cares about condoms. They should step in and demand that std testing is mandatory for fluid exchange to prottect us from the gay4pay guys.

And there should NOT be a "basic" panel and "full" panel! Wtf isn't hep c on a basic! That is whant needs to change. 1 test or have the basic include everything but herpes 2 and have the full include that.

GQ
GQ

"Jenna never did the kind of "gonzo" films that give performers STD'S"???

How bout the "Jenna Jameson 500"????That's about as "gonzo" as you're gonna get......giggidy!

Jackvegasxxx69
Jackvegasxxx69

RobE your right! Vivid is a fake King of the Jew, Run company and Steve is the biggest phony in the adult industry today. Wannabee Mobster. Fuck you Steve Hirsch and Fuck Vivid. Phony ass tit chicks and homo wearing fake cock like your boyfriend next door at L.A. Direct. Bald headed cocksucker.

Jackvegasxxx69
Jackvegasxxx69

I love cream pies in girls. I love the part in here that Steve Hirsch threatens to leave california if the condom regulations get enforced. Huh Sorry Steve, They are start looking for a place you can move to and be Jewish and stupid for TMZ. NOT!! ain't going to happen. They don't want your Democrat lazy butt over there in other states or countries. What a Fucking cry baby!! Waahhaahaaa....

Briansays
Briansays like.author.displayName 1 Like

personally there is nothing better than leaving your creampie in the girl

Bowmjam67
Bowmjam67

Did Ron Jeremy play Chewbacca? You have to admit there is a resemblance between the two of them.

HazelAnderson85
HazelAnderson85

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bigt046
bigt046

@HazelAnderson85 Fuck yourself bitch!

RobE
RobE

I find Romero's focus on "the money shot" to be misguided, if not puerile.

The money shot really isn't the issue here per se since a great deal of them end up ON the bodies of the starlets or gay stars and NOT IN them (the industry's fondness for facials, for example). Of course, by the time the money shot is executed, the damage could be done as regards infection.

Moreover, it often seems as if Romero is attempting to devolve the whole HIV in the porn issue down to the money shot, a rather facile thing to do since it makes a sexy (not in a good way) headline rather than focusing on the chief issues here, which are, at least to em:

1. Why women choose to do porn to begin with when it isn't that remunerative except for a very small coterie of actresses; is there a common threat that runs through both the porn and prostitute communities? And is porn an adjunct to prostitution or the other way around? Stripping has certainly become an adjunct to the adult film business. Are these men and women just too fucking lazy and see porn as an easy way to riches, celebrity and attention without being stigmatized as streetwalkers, a field they otherwise would have looked at and may be engaged in on the side? Are they desperate losers? Do they have other wacked out agendas?

2. The supposedly declining wages in porn (and I can only take Romero's word for that) due to just flat out laughably bad product that more and more people, if this piece is to be believed (no statistics are quoted on that subject) are ignoring is never addressed here other than to note the porn parody trend. While I consume porn, almost none of what I watch is put out by any of the big porn production companies because Vivid, etc make stuff that is so mechanical, predictable, dumb and often just downright gross (like the number of starlets sporting basketball boobs by Monsanto) that it is almost always about as sexy as watching somebody work the drive through at McDonald's.

3. Are prosthetics the answer for penetrative sex scenes rather than condoms and testing? In other words, fake penises the actors can wear over the schvanz they were given at birth? For example, in some of the interracial porn I've seen, I'm pretty sure that prosthetics are being used in many cases there. Or are there other out of the box possibilities there? Let's not fall into the trap of the false dichotomy.

4. One thing that is ironic about this story is the lack of hard statistics. The L.A. Weekly defended its parent company with regard to the child trafficking issue by attacking the charlatans using the issue as a way to enrich themselves and raise their public profiles who were just flat making shit up or buying statistics through dubious studies they themselves financed. So here we get Romero quoting an INDUSTRY FUNDED study about the STD issue and he also quotes people just guessing at the extent of escorting among the actors and starlets backed up by one anecdotal testimony about "everybody on the set I was working was escorting," which Romero apparently made no effort to verify. Be a journalist Dennis, not a stenographer. We already have too many stenographers in the press these days.

5. Would legalizing prostitution have a beneficial effect on the porn industry when it comes to STD's? In other words, if we had safe, legal prostitution where people didn't have to work in the shadows and which should carry mandatory weekly STD testing in government licensed but privately operated brothels (unlicensed sex work should be punishable by a minimum of ten years in jail for both john and whore and triple that for pimps in the advent of a legal framework for prostitution), would that necessarily mean fewer instances of STD's in porn by actresses and actors?

I think that a good compromise here on the condom issue, and yes, industry insiders are correct when they believe that the public doesn't want to see them on screen in the case of vaginal and oral sex, is to mandate with criminal penalties and heavy fines condoms for anal. Also, there should be a mandatory consent form for the receiver of the semen as to whether they will have it shot into them sans protection. Absent that written consent, cumming inside someone in porn should then otherwise be punishable with a five year jail sentence and level three sex offender registration. Those penalties would also apply to any director, producer or any of their agents who coerce signatures of consent. This offers the actress and actor at least some level of ostensible protection and it further emphasizes to the talent that they are ultimately responsible for protecting their health.

JohnStrange
JohnStrange

Hey dck. Maybe we like doing it. I have 2 AA's. Why would I want to change out an engine or a stick of ram when I can nail a chick and get paid to act?

If you had left out #1 you wouldn't have sounded like an ass hole.

Joel Z Williams
Joel Z Williams

they say necessity is the mother of invention. somebody needs to develop a cheap, fast HIV test that can be done right on the set. that way both sides can get what they want. it would be a huge moneymaker for whoever gets that patent first. potential name: "cock-block" and the mascot would be an angry rooster in a cage.

JohnStrange
JohnStrange

There IS a fast HIV test and it doesn't work. It is the Elisa test. A dated test that should no longer be used. It is what all people are tested with including pregnant women. We use an advanced test called HIV/DNA by PCR.

Jackvegasxxx69
Jackvegasxxx69

Luke; your the biggest phoniest failure in the jizz biz anyway so BLOW ME punk!

Luke Ford
Luke Ford

Good story by Mr. Romero ... and it's entertaining to read the comments left here by various porn-biz denizens. Always a classy bunch.

Jackvegasxxx69
Jackvegasxxx69

How about you Micheal ?? you want some? West Hollywood buddy!.

Jackvergasxxx69
Jackvergasxxx69

Now Will-am you phony LA cocksucker! you are the biggest and phoniest critic of this industry and everybody knows your old funky ass sitting in that office down the HALL from your old,fucked up queer friend Jim south , that has to be on here and everyother website monitoring the biz and nothing to do but PUT your nose up everybodies ass and sniff and quiff. You have done alot of gay work and yes I will except your offer to SUCK my Large cock that you will enjoy gobbling. So don't play that phony, lying bullshit attitude with all of us. Can I hit that anal hole while I'm getting sucked off by you WiLL-AM?? Jim can join in ! He loves us well endowed young bois!!

Jackvegasxx69
Jackvegasxx69

first of the morning to you all and that means you Julie Meadows you washed up porn whore! I am not HOMOPHOBIC at all. I fuck guys and girls and take it in my ass too. So what's the problem here is your a washed up cunt from the porn industry that has to produce other crap on the side and whore yourself out to get a plate of food today. Washed up is the answer. And , no i'm not Homophobic. I hang out in west Hollywood with all my gay and bi sexual friends too. This Straight side is denial and is always is. The Major producers need to come out and be fully gay with people that view porn and let ALL know that yes they do use bi sexual men in the straight porn side and yes they do have cocaine and other drug issuses going on in this industry. Yes the Jew do over see this industry and produce the most fucked up PORN today at all cost and don't give a flying fuck!. Julie craw back under the rock and GO fuck youself . Porn whore has been! Oh my X- wife Veronica Rayne told me to tell you "HELLO".

Julie Meadows
Julie Meadows

I meant to add "homophobic" to my one question.

Julie Meadows
Julie Meadows

@Jackvegasxxx69--Sounds like more of a threat than anything prophetic.

I'm not sure how a person's sexual orientation automatically means they don't care about the people they work with and employ, and/or that they're, what? Evil? Deserving of HIV? By your gay and Jewish statements, is it safe to assume you are antisemitic? Both of your comments seem like a way to bomb the thread and derail the issues covered in this article rather than contribute anything substantial. It doesn't add anything relevant.

William Margold
William Margold

It didn't very long for hate-mongers like JackVegasxxx69 and AVN's somnambulate/obsequious legacy Mark Kernes to crawl out from under their rocks and validate that BLOG means "blathering losers omitting gas." BTW: if anyone can prove that I have ever performed a homosexual act...I'll be happy to suck Vegas' dick in the middle of the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.As for the verbose and perpetually confused Kernes...his knowledge of adult entertainment industry history was once exposed as next to nil when he placed the making of 1983's "Caught From Behind" in San Francisco.For further details: bmargold@aol.com

Jackvegasxxx69
Jackvegasxxx69

there will be another HIV outbreak very soon here in L.A. and in Miami so watch for it and "say" i didn't tell you all in the real world that it wasn't going to happen. Any want a job for 100-300 a scene doing this? we will be needing new talent soon to perform after alot of them split again. Its like that after every outbreak.

Jackvegasxxx69
Jackvegasxxx69

My name is jack vegas and I have a been a Bi-sexual male performer in the Industry preforming with both men and women for 6 years now. I don't like wearing condoms and I don't think its going to be enforced here in California. Mr. Hirsch and William Margold are both Bi-sexual men from the 80's and they didn't have to use them back then when the virus was just hitting the industry back then. Vivid will move its filming out of state to Arizona or Nevada and get around that. Remeber people who read this trash rag, its about profits the Producers and Directors don't give a flying fuck about anybody in this industry. The Industry is run by very powerful GAY men like Steve Hirsch, William Margold, Mr. Orienstein at Wicked films, and alot of Gay agents here in Los angeles like Derrick Hays. Shy Love who is Bisexual, and Jaimie Herrera at Indviva Talent who's bisexual also. Johnny's his best lover and good camera man. So its not just the female in this Industry that escort but us Male performer take it in the butt for money too and its bareback like I like it! Anyway just because you see a male having sex with a female doesn't mean his straight. We demand Bisexuality in this business and most of us Talent agency guys a GAY! and we don't care about anybody else but are selves! and that is just the way it is. So enjoy the free content on the internet this industry is going down the crapper and up it too!. Love to all you Jewish and peckerhead rejects from the state of California prisons and Hugs and licks to you men and ladies and tg/tv's in the industry and the read world. Best regards, Jack Vegas, xxx Bi-sexual peformer, Northridge, California

EducatedGuest
EducatedGuest

I think the writer may be blind.. literally.. with his "If not for Haze strutting around the set, her hair in trademark buns, her obscene curves visible beneath a sheer white gown, it all would have been an absolute bore." Given Allie is 90 pounds wet, after lunch, and aspires to fill an A cup.. where did he see a curve that wasnt a protruding rounded bone? lol

Jayfreud
Jayfreud like.author.displayName 1 Like

who buys porn anymore? You can get it off the internet for free! And who is making sure these "amateur" people are using a condom? Nobody!

William Margold
William Margold

Although pleased that a few of my sentiments were expressed here...I need to rectify at least one: I am pro-condom usage for anal sex but adamantly anti-condom for oral sex and feel that the use of condoms for vaginal activity should be a freedom of the performers' choice for each of their scenes.And although I did express the following thoughts: the health of the adult entertainment industry is not within the Free Speech Coalition's purview nor is it a First Amendment issue ... so if and when a performer does tragically contract HIV, he or she should be fully ready to accept the fact "that when his or her privates become public...he or she should expect to lose his or her privacy" those sentiments failed to make the final edit. bmargold@aol.com

Jma H
Jma H

Ok mensa rejects - how about require condoms for intercourse but allow them to remove it for the money shot!

Was that hard?

Am I a genius for coming up with this simple solution?

Maybe but in this case not really instead the author of this article is just an idiot and I hope he smokes a whole lot of weed because if he wrote this sober he's got some xplaining to do.

Jackvegasxxx69
Jackvegasxxx69

we do smoke alot of weed and crack and do lots of cocaine and drink on the set's. Hell' i'm a full blown alcoholic and use lots of dope to deal with the bullshit of this fucked up industry and being a two face cutthroat.

TerryHenue070876
TerryHenue070876

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bigt046
bigt046

@TerryHenue070876 Go die somewhere cocksucker!

TerryHenue070876
TerryHenue070876

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Kristopher Noble
Kristopher Noble

I don't even know if i would continue watching. A condom being worn through out the scene is one thing but for it to be worn at the all important "money shot", seems to me as the article pointed out that there would be little point even watching it that far along.As for performers who are also escorting, i am sure for anybody who wants to prolong what may or may not be a very short career they would insist on using one whilst with non porn related clients. As was mentioned entertainers are tested regularly and have certs to back it up, while Joe Public may not be.

Michael Whiteacre
Michael Whiteacre

I'd like to add one thing: the conjunction of adult performers and escorts is analogous to that of adult performers and strippers. A small number of adult stars capitalize on their name appeal by later taking a "feature dance" on the road to strip clubs, but it is FAR more common for strippers to seek to build their "name" (and rate) as "feature entertainers" by appearing in a few adult movies.

While there are no doubt many adult performers who escort, a substantial number of that group are, essentially, escorts who got into porn as a sideline in order to be able to demand an increased escort rate.

So, the adult performer / escort situation runs in both directions.

Furthermore, I've known models, b-movie starlets and even hairdressers and make-up artists who sideline in escorting. This is not a phenomenon unique to adult films performers in LA.

Julie Meadows
Julie Meadows

I agree with Mark on that one. Gina Rodriguez' affiliation with Pink Cross Foundation is reliant on a fisheye offering of the worst possible scenario. It's worth pointing out.

And you did mention escorts requiring condoms, albeit a bit later in the article. I'd just like to add that I was a performer and every performer I knew who worked as an escort required condom use from their clients, for their own safety.

I think it's also worth noting that while Weinstein claims the straight industry's distinction in stating that HIV is harder to contract unless you work in the gay industry is a form of "gay bashing", the reason for this is because STD and HIV prevention is handled differently in the gay industry. This is not so much because a performer is "gay", but because the gay industry does not universally recognize clinic testing as a form of prevention. Condoms tear and break, and the straight industry is more secure about the STD and HIV status of a performer because they universally recognize clinic testing in a timely fashion. Unfortunately, for this reason, it is easier to contract HIV in the gay industry.

It should also be noted that the gay industry has a talent pool that caters to HIV+ performers (the straight industry does not), but Michael Weinstein never talks about that. He never compares the industry in any way. Michael Weinstein doesn't attack gay companies that shoot "bareback" (condom-less) videos, and I don't remember his making any kind of statement about the fact that a "bareback" movie was sold at one of AHF's Out of The Closet stores. The Sword, a popular gay publication, has a very good article on that. Truth is that Weinstein is criticized a fair amount from the gay industry, as well.

iamcuriousblue
iamcuriousblue

I also note Mr. Weinstein's history of ill-founded crusades. Before "condoms in porn", he was on a kick to have Viagra rescheduled as a "drug of abuse" by the federal government. I kid you not.

Luke Jackson
Luke Jackson

Condom use in porn would suck, but I fail to see how using them would jeopardize the "money shot" itself. If you watch some old condom porn, the male stars are pretty quick on the draw, if you know what I mean. Admit it, you just like saying "money shot." ;)

Mark Kernes
Mark Kernes

Wouldn't it be a good idea, or even "journalism," to have some FACTS to back up the allegation that "Some [straight-porn actors (who) take side gigs as prostitutes] are almost assuredly not using condoms, then returning to local porn sets... without a word"? As someone who has worked in the adult journalistic community for more than 20 years, all of the porn stars that I'm familiar with who also escort use condoms, for the simple reason that while they know their on-camera partners are tested, they know equally well that their outside clients aren't.

Also, making the assumption, as you clearly do, that former-actress-turned-anti-porn-zealot Gina Rodriguez, whose mentor is the equally clueless religious fanatic Shelley Lubben, and AHF president Michael Weinstein, whose organization receives funds from a variety of treatment/prevention-related businesses, have no axes to grind in this controversy, and therefore are giving you the straight scoop, is equally poor journalism.

Dennis Romero
Dennis Romero

Mark:

I quote a performer turned escort who says "These performers are going out and being irresponsible in their own private sex lives." Additionally I have interviews with others who have said the same.

No assumption was made that these folks don't have axes to grind. Their axes are transparent, and they grind them here in my piece.

-Dennis

iamcuriousblue
iamcuriousblue

On a related note, you also put a lot of weight behind a baseless quote that "all" current performers are escorting on the side. Can you back that up with anything besides one performer's offhanded remark? Because that's an awfully big claim to make.

BTW, I'm quite aware that *some* current performers escort (though it's more common with ex-performers than current ones). Simple googling and a look at sites like TER will provide examples of this. But I definitely do not get the impression that most (much less "all") female performers do this on the side. If this were the case, then most performers are doing a very good job of keeping mention of their side jobs off the internet, something I find unlikely considering the number of "hobbyists" who like to crow about their activities on various review sites.

Michael Whiteacre
Michael Whiteacre

By that standatd, any person who ever has condom-less sex in private is being irresponsible. I'm sorry to break it to you guys, but people have been having bare sex for a really long time. This "sex -> death" thing is getting old.

But then again, AIDS fear and hysteria are Mr Weinstein's stock and trade. Has anyone noticed AHF's latest billboard campaign? Weinstein is not only an enemy of gay sexuality, he's an enemy of sex itself (as well as good taste and free speech)!

I'd also remind you all, on the subject of anecdotal remarks, that the plural of "anecdote" is not "data."

anonymous
anonymous like.author.displayName 1 Like

ASIANS CAN ACTUALLY READ MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!they can hear and see what your visually thinkingthis is the complete total truth

the reason alot of asians have completely expressionless faces, only associate with asians and dont associate with non asians very much is to avoid accidentally revealing that they can read read minds, if all over a billion asians were to show facial expressions all the time just as much as non asians, associate with non asians much more, and be much more friendly and talkative, then alot of them might accidentally reveal that they can read minds by accidentally showing a facial expression or dirty look when someone thinks, or visually pictures something in their mind they dont like or find astonishing or funny, and if they were all to associate with non asians alot more there would be alot more people around for them to accidentally show facial expressions when those other people think things they dont like, so they only associate with asians so there wont be anyone around for them to see that and have any accidents happen in the first place

think about it, its not normal how alot of them act, and the entire way they act is all to hide their mind reading abilities, it makes perfect sense to do all of that to hide that they can read minds, because all of that is the perfect way to do it!every single asian on the planet is hiding their mind reading abilities, they will lie about having mind reading abilities forever!because they value hiding their mind reading abilities more then their own lives!thats why nobody knows about it!

try thinking, best yet visually picturing in your mind something something absolutely crazy as you possibly can when you are around asians, and try looking for asians who give people particular looks, especially dirty looks for what appears to be for completely no reason, that is them giving people looks when they hear and visually see someone thinking something they dont like, find funny or astonishingit still happens despite a large number of them having completely expressionless faces all the time, it would just happen alot more if none of them had completely expressionless faces all the time, its not uncommon!

i know this sounds crazy, impossible, and completely unbelievable, BUT IT ISNT CRAZY WHEN ITS TRUE

the reason you think this truly is crazy, impossible and unbelieveable is because our society has propagandized people into believing that nothing extra ordinary is real and that is really is impossible, and that its crazy to think that its true that people can read minds, all just to cover up that asians can read minds! who says that cant exist? the people who have mind reading abilities who are trying to cover it up!

you have to spread the message!!!!the world has to know about this!!!!

bigt046
bigt046

@anonymous I think you are right now that I think about how most of them Asians behave. This explains a lot. Thanks for enlightening us. I have some strange-behaving Asian honeys at work that I have sexual thoughts about. I will make sure that i intensify those sexy thoughts in their presence and look for the slightest reactions that may expose their secret ability to mind read.

 
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