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AEG has promised to build a "carbon-neutral" Farmers Field football stadium that will add no extra emissions to the current load in polluted downtown Los Angeles. But there's no way to accomplish that, according to environmental lawyers, climate researchers and traffic engineers who've seen it all before.
Konstantin Vinnikov, a University of Maryland climatologist and atmospheric scientist, says the buzz phrase carbon-neutral is pure public relations.
"You can attach labels, as many as you want," he says. But in his extensive research into greenhouse global warming, the internationally recognized scientist has found little meaning behind green claims like the ones made by L.A. politicians and AEG president Tim Leiweke.
Vinnikov, who has been researching climate change since 1961, says, "Most labels are nonsense, dreamed up by marketing departments."
That's what marketers did at MetLife Stadium, the $1.6 billion arena built for the New York Jets and Giants.
Long before it opened in 2010, the Jets/Giants investment partnership New Meadowlands Stadium Corp. and New York politicians promised New Yorkers a lot of environmental advances at the new stadium.
They swore that MetLife Stadium — built several miles outside New York City, in New Jersey — would be the greenest football arena in America. Then the owners, John Mara, Steve Tisch and Robert Wood "Woody" Johnson IV — saw the price tag associated with going fully green and cut back on such details as installing insulated windows in private suites, while sticking by other promises such as waterless urinals.
"Promises are cheap," says Santa Monica environmental attorney Doug Carstens, but California developers consistently promise "mitigation" to reduce the negative effects of huge projects, all the while quietly working on a Plan B with far fewer environmental fixes.
"When developers [like AEG] start shedding mitigation like crazy," Carstens warns, "then instead of revoking approval, public agencies tend to forgive and forget" — and city halls go along.
Nidia Bautista, Coalition for Clean Air policy director, says green is always good, but developers who claim to be carbon-neutral simply aren't being real.
"We'd like to see corporations take steps to green up their businesses," she says, "but that's a far step from calling yourself carbon-neutral."
Three bills are sitting on Gov. Jerry Brown's desk that could throw the California Environmental Quality Act into turmoil.
SB 292 would streamline the complaint process, give AEG a break on lawsuits associated with its stadium and make it extremely difficult for communities to sue to force AEG to protect the livability and environment near the stadium. AB 900 emerged in the eleventh hour of the 2011 legislative session last week, when other corporations cried to legislators, "What about my project? I want an exemption from environmental law." A last-minute third bill, SB 226, lets cities use decades-old environmental studies — from a time when far less density and environmental damage existed — to let developers ignore local zoning.
If Brown signs SB 292, a struggle will begin as city boosters strive to prove that Farmers Field will be all that they promise and doubters raise red flags.
Carbon-neutral refers to the amount of carbon dioxide generated by operating the stadium and the proposed new Pico Hall at the L.A. Convention Center. AEG insists the net amount of carbon dioxide generated will be the same as now.
But traffic engineer Bob Shanteau says that promise is extremely hard to fulfill, so AEG will resort to buying carbon credits — essentially, paying to help reduce emissions in another part of California, or even outside California, as penance for adding a big emissions load to downtown.
Shanteau asks: "Do they include the carbon dioxide emitted by all of the additional motor vehicles, buses and trains serving fans going to and from the games? ... Do they count the carbon dioxide emitted by the power plants supplying the electricity for the billboards, etc.?"
AEG has claimed it will one day persuade 50 percent of NFL ticket holders to take public transit to a Super Bowl. But under SB 292, the traffic-reduction requirement is vague and features a loophole that critics say makes it ineffective at best.
Under it, AEG must produce "trip ratio" data — essentially, the number of attendees divided by the number of cars that arrive — and then try to improve the trip ratio, with the eventual goal that Farmers Field attract 10 percent fewer cars than any other NFL stadium's trip ratio.
Who would measure this?
AEG would, by and large, collecting car-trip data for four years. After the fourth football season, L.A. City Hall — not state environmental officials — would decide if the data was accurate. Then, after the fifth season, if it became clear that AEG was failing to discourage enough cars as compared to other stadiums, the city would try to make AEG implement vaguely defined "feasible measures" to cut traffic. The year, by this time: Circa 2022.
Andrea Sarzynski, a University of Delaware policy expert who has studied car culture extensively, says stadium event-goers will take mass transit only if it's beneficial to do so.
To create that tipping point, L.A. may allow punishingly high parking rates for Farmers Field — already, AEG charges $40 to park at its $1 billion Ritz Carlton-Marriott skyscraper near Staples Center — coupled with low Metro transit fares.
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Why does the LA weekly keep spouting this left-wing doom and gloom crap? This is the same kind of thinking that brought california 12% + unemployment. Have you ever considered supporting anything that's good for the city?
So typical of left-wingers to wring their hands over every little thing instead of enjoying the finer things in life. Give me football or give me death.
Just saw your post Big Mike. You must be a real cretin. Football over the environment? Then again AEG seems to prefer the same things you do. Some scientist should do an anthropological study on your family, at least a gene mapping, so he can determine where you lost the gene for intelligence. Even if the scientist did discover what went wrong, he'll never be able to fix stupid.
Mr. Glub -- couldn't you find a better nom de plume -- I hope you're being facetious. Farmers Field the center of a regional rail network?!? What are you smokin' cause I want some. The Weekly isn't poo-pooing public transit. The Weekly wonders why the city didn't do their job to vet this deal before signing off without knowing the true cost to taxpayers. If, Mr. Glub, you think people who pay $500 for a ticket to a game are going to ride a bus or Metro from the West Side, then you're smokin' some high-quality stuff.
Carbon, shmarben. People, we're talking FOOTBALL here. LA will never be a world-class city without a football team. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee! We need football and all this crap about pollution is just a way to keep us from getting the football team we deserve.
I like how L.A. Weekly has taken to sowing doubt about public transit at every possible opportunity. When Farmers field is open, it will be at the center of a regional rail network that spans from Ventura to San Diego and at the center of a robust local transit network with fast, frequent trains running throughout the L.A. area.
This is just anti-Farmers Field propaganda. Why are you so anti-jobs? Do you understand what unemployment is in L.A.? Haters.
Given that Carbon is the 6th element on the periodic table and is one of the most malleable of the simple elements, it is either folly or a lie to offer any pretense whatsoever that we can have an economy without using it in all its compound forms. What is the source of this madness?
If AEG builds the stadium in that fragile spot, traffic would grind to a standstill and a lot of extra pollution would be generating from cars idling, smoke spewing from their tailpipies, going nowhere. The stadium would draw traffic from the suburbs, increasing the amount of vehicle emissions no matter what. AEG would have to buy a tremendous amount of carbon credits to offset that. They're marketing department is full of lies. They will never create a carbon neutral stadium. Governor Brown should veto SB 292 and allow the normal environmental review process without special shortcuts for AEG. They should not get their own laws just because they have a lot of lobbyists in Sacramento. That is corrupt.
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