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01/09/2012 5:29:00 AM
More "change" you Obama cock suckers can believe in.
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Guest 12/08/2011 6:29:00 PM
This thumbs up/down can be such a dilemma, I like that people are taking the time to write the story and the fact that thanks to their effort, I am informed, I however do not like or support what is happening to our country or what is happening to our rights.
What I do enjoy the most is the fact I have proof this is going on and I am using it every chance I get.
My husband didn't want to hear it, my friends weren't paying much attention and online when I have mentioned it I have been dismissed as a conspiracy theorist.
Ha-ha sat hubby down for a dose of reality, I've been trying to convince him for like a couple of months that we really have to get back to finishing this property clean up project.
We bought our house when the houses were $$$ back in 2005, considering the market back then, we got a deal but it included years worth of junk accumulation to deal with.
We moved in and put it off for a while as we focused on the inside of the house (it is small house :(, with odd layout) on 1/2 acre.
Summer came and load after load to the dump and scrap yard, I lost track of the loads we trucked out. Every load looked like Sanford & Sons, overloaded heap of junk, it was embarrassing, I never could wait unload hurry ASAP before people see us.
We became burnt out I guess, we got to a point real progress was evident and convinced ourselves we deserved a break and guess what? We took one long break but that is over. They are harassing the guy across the street, he has had to take 2 months off work to remove EVERYTHING he has in his back yard. He runs a crane for a living and long ago went to the county to get special approval for shipping containers in his back yard. His back yard does contain a lot of commercial equipment but
#1 you can't see it from the street, it is not an eyesore, he actually has one of the best looking houses in the neighborhood.
Well kept, it is obvious he has put lots of effort in his property over the years, I believe in the front alone he has over $100k in concrete work alone. Most of the rest of us have I'll call it more natural landscape.
#2 I have never seen anyone go to the effort he has gone to keep a yard with as much stuff, organized and tidy.
His containers were stacked 2 high and they were painted solid matching bland beige to blend in. Everything in them was even organized this guy went to a lot of effort and I am sure spent many years collecting hardware and such create such an orderly system and then here comes the county. They harass him almost daily now.
I don't know what time frame he was given to comply but I know the fine is $1k a DAY after the deadline, plus threat of criminal conviction if he does not comply.
At first when he came over and told us of his woes, I was full of suggestions (unaware of agenda 21) on how to fight this, after all, this is not right! They gave him permission, he had taken the steps and done it right, how could they do this?
That is the same reaction, I got while trying to tell people I know.
Not anymore, this makes people leave their jaws on the floor. I almost have to remind them to pick it up before they leave. We live in the middle of Quartz Hill which is not rural, you may be next.
I have read entire towns are rejecting this but you have to get your city officials on your side, you don't want to wait till they are knocking on your door act. Spread the word and unite with your neighbors, end this thing before it becomes unstoppable!
I really hate the knowing that now, for the $ I paid for this dump, I could buy an amazing house full of upgrades, bigger than I even need and still have $ left over. It is what it is, I try not to think of this.
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12/07/2011 5:37:00 PM
America, The Land of the Free - Woody Guthrie's spinning in his grave over what America's become.
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Exit279 09/18/2011 3:21:00 AM
What BS is this!? I just read and saw the reason tv video. I live in Lancaster proper, these people need the ACLU ASAP.
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American 09/08/2011 7:36:00 AM
Nazi thugs shouldn't have the luxury of dying peacefully in their beds of illness or old age.
It's soft-hearted BULLSHIT like yours that has let these thugs get away with this sort of crap, under the guise of "public safety" and "protecting the value of property owners' homes from neighborhood nuisances."
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American 09/08/2011 7:29:00 AM
The Nazi concentration camps and Soviet Gulags were full of "kapos" and "judenrats" and other contemptible collaborators like Little Leah, who thought if they just sucked enough uniformed cock, and were enthusiatic enough about it, they would be the last ones to be lined up on the edge of a ditch or shoved into a "shower"...
It's not just the NAT thugs---the modern kapos need to be identified and dealt with as well.
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American 09/08/2011 7:21:00 AM
How expensive was the Green Card you didn't bother to get, hijo de puta?
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Tommy Paine 09/08/2011 6:58:00 AM
It's no coincidence that California politicians and bureaucrats love gun-control laws.
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09/04/2011 12:42:00 AM
that's the problem. Too many of the right people left California. You have no idea what happened to areas like Lancaster and Palmdale when former President Clinton closed up military ops out in the area. It was a thriving area that turned into a ghost town in a serious depression right next to a state prison. And many former prisoners and their families run amok in the area.
I think Clinton plotted to take anyone out of California that wasn't a far left leaning freak.
And the Mexicans, they'll take you to the cleaners for their "amnesty". No, they don't like you unless you have money to give them.
That's why I strongly object to Liberal CARPET BAGGERS running the state. California has been a REPUBLIC. If anyone needs to leave, they can be the first on their way out.
Antonovich and Schwarzenegger are both "republicans" who increased government at the expense of law abiding citizens.
The huge trouble is that baby boomers (generally collectivist minded and pushing the real estate market) dominate the state.
Not only do these poor people get harassed by government, young adults who don't sit on a trust fund are also harassed. Everywhere from Santa Barbara to Oakland, nice but not rich kids are getting busted for the most inane things.
You're not going to win the state by leaving, you win it by fighting for it. The collectivist boomers are okay with the status quo here because they're "fighting" with their passive resistance stance. That's not going to work. It never has.
California is no longer a thriving state. Even the Yay Area is dying. If that didn't work, then you have to do something else.
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Guest 08/29/2011 3:07:00 AM
Zoning regs have gone too far. California needs to have a concept of Allodial (or "absolute") title, in which the landowner has FINAL authority in the use of his land. Privately-held land for primary residence that is outside of city limits should all have this kind of title.
Freehold tenure is too easily abuse be the state, which takes the role of the capricious sovereign that was in place when freehold was developed.
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08/27/2011 11:04:00 PM
The people of Antelope Vally should seek out this MR A. Nonymous and ask him to please drive past the property of the county supervisors.
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08/27/2011 10:14:00 PM
When in the course of human events the citizens of a nation become aware that Justice and Redress are not forth coming from their government officials, it becomes necessary that the citizens take up the responsibility of correcting the malfeasance of those officials.
Can this correction be accomplished short of simply hanging the officials?
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08/26/2011 1:53:00 PM
Holy shit, I am livid. In whose interest is it to harass people who want to live far from the city and BE LEFT ALONE? The video of Antonovich being asked basic questions at a County Board of Supervisors meeting AND REMAINING STONE SILENT is damning. What a loathsome fucker.
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Guest 08/24/2011 7:35:00 PM
Developer Donations Put Antonovich in the Driver's Seat
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-04-27/local/me-956_1_estate-developers
Over a six-year period ending last Dec. 31, 14 of the top 25 contributors to both Dana and Antonovich were real estate developers or companies connected to construction, a Times survey of campaign reports showed. Of the five supervisors, conservatives Dana, Antonovich and Schabarum have received the most developer money since 1980.
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Barry Convex 07/17/2011 11:05:00 PM
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07/17/2011 11:41:00 AM
I paid $32.67 for a XBOX 360 and my mom got a 17 inch Toshiba laptop for $94.83 being delivered to our house tomorrow by FedEX. I will never again pay expensive retail prices at stores. I even sold a 46 inch HDTV to my boss for $650 and it only cost me $52.78 to get. Here is the website we using to get all this stuff, PennyOrder.com
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Perriwinkler 07/12/2011 4:01:00 AM
At least they are lucky nobody from the County tried to set them up for "Don Scott style taking of life and property".
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Perriwinkler 07/12/2011 3:58:00 AM
California had a ballot initiative a couple years back which would have restricted the State of California and municipalities within the state from exercising the broad eminent domain powers of Kelo vs. New London, CT. A majority voted NO on restricting eminent domain powers in CA.
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Perriwinkler 07/12/2011 3:50:00 AM
The U.S.A. was the only nation with a fully manueverable reusable launch and reentry orbital vehicle. And an entire infrastructure capable succesful operation on a regular basis.
But we are throwing all of that away in the trash pulling the innards out of three space shuttle orbiters so they can be decommisioned and repurposed as set props hung in a mall/museun. All of the specialized personnel are moving along to their new career as unemployed discarded couch potatoes. We can still send U.S.astronauts into orbit - they fly standvby out of Baikonur, Kazakhstan. Whenever the U.S. wants to bring one of our astronauts back to earth, There is an iron bell with a parachute to soften the crash back down to Baikonur.
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Perriwinkler 07/12/2011 2:28:00 AM
Maybe vigourous enforcement of land-use code on the big rig owner/operator residents in the AV is directly related to long term plans for a container transport hub. The independent CA plate truckers are on schedule to be driven out of the area in time for the ribbon-cutting ceremony at the Antonovich Memorial Transmodal Transport Station of Greater Antelope Valley. Don't need you fellas parking your rigs across the road and blowing your horns and making a stink. They are already full up on the waiting list for medallions necessary to load a container at the new facility. Those will all be rigs operating under NAFTA open market provisions. Those trucks operate 24/7. They only stop for gas, toll booths and setting or pulling the container, but the engine is always running. They carry three operators licensed in Panama switching off 4 hour shifts non-stop making $2.25/hour while behind the wheel less the charges they owe the company for their room and board in the cab when not behind the wheel. If any of you fella's want to remain in the AV you need to take your name and rig license off the property. Then you need form a religious congregation with you and your old lady and kids as ordained ministers.Then you need to clearly delineate the boundaries of your church property line and clearly post warnings of full enforcement against trespassing. And list a post office box address for any advisements or inquiries to be sent. One more item. Have the courtesy of addressing Supervisor Antonovich as Los Angeles County Mayor Supervisor Antonovich - his complete and proper title at this time.
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Badman400 07/10/2011 4:46:00 PM
This is a job for the state militia, made up of men from 18-45 with their rifles. Stop these azzhole, jackboot, nazi, SS, thug, beaurocrats in their tracks. DON'T TREAD ON ME!
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07/07/2011 6:25:00 AM
You have no property rights and you live in an occupied land that you handed over to your masters at each election. You deserve this, so shut up and obey!
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07/06/2011 6:23:00 PM
Well here is a good one. I just sold property in Llano and am wondering if all will be well with the new owner. This seems to be foul play.
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mueller 07/05/2011 9:20:00 PM
They are doing what they want with what is theirs and injuring no one in the process.
The whole thing stinks and the odor is coming from Los Angeles County offices. Maybe a federal district attorny needs to look into this.
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Theunbubba 07/05/2011 8:42:00 PM
My thoughts exactly. Snidely Whiplash should be lurking nearby!
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07/05/2011 5:46:00 PM
Thanks for this story. I don't live anywhere near the Antelope Valley, and my lifestyle is far from that of the desert rat.
But I believe in liberty, and I know once those assholes in power get done pushing the desert rats around, they'll come after me. I vote in every election, local and statewide, and I won't forget this. I won't forget who needs to lose the salary I pay for and learn to say "Would you like fries with that?" with a smile.
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07/05/2011 5:30:00 PM
I can't see how this differs from having your home taken away from you by the Mafia, other than the fact that you are one of the millions of people voting on whether you're allowed to stay in your own home.
As for the idea that you have "no expectation of privacy" after the government outlaws something: this is the first time I ever heard that the government had authority to invade people's homes without a warrant in order to verify that they're complying with all laws.
I guess after the Nuremberg Laws were passed the Jews in Germany had no expectation of privacy.
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Brenda 07/05/2011 4:00:00 PM
When I did a search on Antelope Valley, the first thing that came up was something about wind and solar farms. It seems likely someone with money and connections wants that land.
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07/05/2011 3:49:00 PM
These people are also victims of their own feckless ignorance, and the votes they cast [or didn't] for those who run the County. There are places in Arizona where County "officials" are made very uncomfortable when they show their faces.
This new intrusion came about because new building and remodels came to a halt, leaving a vast bureaucracy with nothing to inspect. Instead of laying off the useless, they were found something to do.
Start voting, fools.
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07/03/2011 10:05:00 PM
no wonder California and NY are considered the least free states to live in.
they hate truckers especially owner operators look at the carb rules
even baking bread is frowned upon.
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Ruhihun 07/02/2011 8:43:00 AM
I love the Teflon Letter. Beat them at their own game! Now,... if the desert people could only unite and go after the Nat in a Teflon kind of way., like we don't want you trespassing on our land, isn't that one of the reasons we have the right to bear arms? Kinda like Sarah Palin chimed,..ringin those bells and shootin those guns and letting the Nat know they ain't gonna be taking our freedoms and our land ...
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07/01/2011 11:25:00 PM
LA county is perfectly fine with you doing what ever you want on your land; provided you are the right race. Goats, pigs, donkeys, dogs, boarding dozens of horses, shelters that violate code; is all fine if you are the right race. Want to burn trash on a windy day next to a field of dry weeds, that is cool too. When my dad called to report it, the Fire Chef yell at him for "being racist" and then drove off.
His widowed neighbor was told she needed to remove her honeysuckle covered fence because it was over 6ft high and was a fire hazard. One neighbor is white, one is Mexican.
My parents don't live in the middle of no where. They live in the middle of Palmdale, surrounded by houses and on a main street. LA County goes after people they know they can bully.
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07/01/2011 3:24:00 PM
When government officials fear facing deadly repercussions for their actions, they'll stop. Until then, you'll bend over and take what they give you.
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Rich Friedel 07/01/2011 3:22:00 PM
Hay Billings if your in the county and he works for the City next time He come call the Sheriff and have him escorted off you land. If he refuses to live they will arrest him.
City has NO jurisdiction beyond their city limits.
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07/01/2011 2:10:00 PM
Might I suggest some books by George Hayduke? Look into it.
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07/01/2011 6:16:00 AM
Why am I not surprised the county has a SWAT team for code enforcement. This s^^t is why the tea party is up in arms. Its time for smaller unobtrusive governments, and a restoration of property and privacy rights. This garbage can't continue! Texas, Montana, and Wyoming are looking better everyday....
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07/01/2011 3:19:00 AM
No one is hurt by these independant people-I lived in the valley for years. The desert is a great place for those who do not want to be in civilization, unless you bring water to it, it is virtually worthless even to developers. It would seem to me homesteading laws should apply, and the county should help these people rather than have them on the welfare rolls. Shame on L.A. county-but the rich do not give a damn about people they see as "less" than they. They need to be booted from their county jobs, then maybe they can learn what it feels like to loose their home. Shame, shame , shame. There will be an accounting, if not in this world, then the next.
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Scrapperking 07/01/2011 2:02:00 AM
I had the same type of problem here in Billings Mt with cars that I work on. I am in the county out of city limits and had a "complaint" about my 1981 suburu wagon I was working on. I am a dealer of used cars so it didn't have a plate and the enforcement officer said it was an unlicensed eyesore, but he didn't seem to notice all my neighbors with three or four cars on blocks. Just mine. So I brought in twenty old beaters and put dealer plates on them and left them there for a month. When he came around after about a week and tried to ticket me, I proved all cars ran and all had legal plates on them. He hasn't been back since.
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07/01/2011 12:48:00 AM
At what point do the citizens of this nation say "enough!"? You see these stories on a regular basis, all over the country. It's happening from the Federal level, all the way down to the local level, and everywhere in between. The Founders would be spinning in their graves.
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07/01/2011 12:46:00 AM
Wonder how hard (impossible, of course) it would be to get Antelope Valley "rezoned" all the way into being their own separate county. Then Los Angeles Big City A------ Code Enforcement could go f--- themselves and leave people alone.
Bunch of bureaucratic bastards, so unhappy with their own lives they always gotta tell other people how to live.
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07/01/2011 12:45:00 AM
Getting the area ready for a solar and/or wind farm? In the post-Kelo world, wouldn't surprise me a bit. Thoughts and prayers for the Dupuis' and all others effected by this. You're welcome to come to Texas!
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06/30/2011 9:41:00 PM
No. I think this is a fine idea. They are just doing their job after all. And I am sure next they will start rounding up all the ILLEGAL aliens, you know-the invading force, who is living off this governments land and monies. I am sure they are not up to code either...12 in a one room flat. It has been going on for years and yet no one does a thing. Vote them all out!
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06/30/2011 9:15:00 PM
One would think these idiots would have learned from Waco and Ruby Ridge! Why are they sending these NAT teams out to these folks houses, really? They're looking for a fire-fight. They're looking for a reason to swoop in and wipe these peace-loving people out. If I were one of them, I would move my stuff out at night and leave the state, while whatever was left on the property burned to the ground.
They're not going to be happy until somebody dies. Of course, it'll be painted to look like the NAT stormtroopers were the victims.
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CRACK 06/30/2011 7:19:00 PM
"I've probably ruined your story because you want to say it's a horrible thing going on. ... We have gotten a very, very positive response from the community." -Tony Bell, Antonovich's spokesman.
Yes, the community seems to love paying hefty fines for insanely harmless code violations, clearing their "vacant" land- the land they've lived on, problem-free for decades- of all items just to avoid jail time, being forced to leave the county, many forced into homelessness... That's why they created the AVTO truckers' advocacy group to resist the crackdown, and why the Littlerock Town Council is also fighting it.
Tony and Antonovich- are you on crack? Do you expect us to believe your NAT teams are there fighting "toxic waste ... environmental crises ... potentially a parolee who has escaped. Maybe methamphetamine labs, or maybe illegal dog breeding." And what?... "Wild boars so big they go up to your chest."!!!
No. It sounds more like they're pointing guns at hardworking taxpayers telling them their fence is too high.
This is a story that goddamn needed to be told. We deserve more than this. Lives are at stake.
That's my positive response for you.
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06/30/2011 7:11:00 PM
Most people don't know that the quote :"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" was originally, "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Private Property". It's from John Locke.
I just wrote that dumba$$ an email telling him what I thought about him.
I guess I'm lucky. I escaped from California seven years ago and moved to the United States of America, Arizona Territory. I'm hoping we'll secede soon!
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06/30/2011 6:33:00 PM
Real Estate Common Law is dying a quick death in America. The "Bundle of Rights" that this nation was built upon is being trampled :
the right of possession - the property is owned by whomever holds title;
the right of control - within the laws, the owner controls the use of the property;
the right of exclusion - others can be excluded from using or entering the property;
the right of enjoyment - the owner can enjoy the use of the property in any legal manner; and
the right of disposition - the title holder can sell, rent or transfer ownership or use of the property at will
"Within the Laws" doe not give the county blanket rights to do as they wish. For most of the and-owners of Antelope Valley, the following needs to be done:
1) Governing bodies cannot enforce, post facto, current zoning and code on structures that existed before the time of enactment of said zoning law. The best the county can do under common law is enforce zoning requirements from the time that the structure was built. In short, if your home was built in 1970, then the zoning and code from 1970 is the enforceable law. This principal is violated across the country on a daily basis, but it has case-law and common law basis.
2) "Adversarial Possession"-type concepts (another common law element) could be used by the property owner. A strong case could be made that the county abandoned the land, or more specifically, their duties of enforcement years ago. Slap a class-action status on it and find some good hearted lawyers and give it a go. I would donate, simply because of the possible national repercussions.
Americans, left and right, have become complacent. Our rights have been violated, small step by small step, for 100 years. The net effect? If the government wants your land, they can declare eminent domain and hand your land, at pennies on the dollar, to a developer in the name of the 'public good' (see: increased tax revenue). See Kelo v New London. Not good.
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Muscupiabe 06/30/2011 6:16:00 PM
little Leah says' "I'm so tired of you people complaining and yet, here you still are." Spoken from a coveteous hypocrit criminal mentality.
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06/30/2011 5:18:00 PM
County supervisors move to send all the Section 8 people to the Antelope Valley, then crack down on the people that don't take government money, because their houses aren't up to the standards of the land developers who build the houses that are paid for by taxpayer (Sec. 8) money.
Bastards. Fire Antonovich, he's been there so long he think he owns the Valley.
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Buzz 06/30/2011 5:13:00 PM
really. How much do those necessary permits cost? How much to pay a lawyer to get those necessary permits? How much extra money do these folks have? You left all that out of you comment.
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06/30/2011 5:07:00 PM
"We don't just storm people's property and do things without permission," Grover says, but, he adds, "If it's 'vacant' land or 'vacant' property, then there's no expectation of privacy."
Bullshit. Ownership, its right of use and enjoyment belongs to the titled owner, not the County. These little tyrants need an Amercan civics course
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Muscupiabe 06/30/2011 4:56:00 PM
The American People never consented to be governed. That's what they said in the 1774 Declaration of Rights.
The 1776 Declaration of Independence says: "governments... deriving their powers from the consent of the governed." This means the public officials "consented to be governed" by the American Man. In the Real America, public officials are public servants governed by the American Public.
The zoning commissars are in full violation of American Law. But, they are in compliance with communist rules designed by covetous rich people. And they are serving God, the King of kings in administering the Curses of the Law that we come under when we violate the Real Law of the Lord of Truth, Mercy, Faith, Love & Life.
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06/30/2011 4:52:00 PM
The bigger the government ...the smaller the individual. Funny how people can go through 4 years of a liberal university and not be told that simple fact. But since the vast majority of their profs are liberal fools it makes sense that they don't understand the obvious and proven. There are actually people stupid enough who think if they give more of their earned money to the government that it makes them more secure and powerfu (typical example obamacare). Everybody agrees that power=money but then somehow some people go stupid and surrender more of their money and they think they are stronger. Doh!
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06/30/2011 4:37:00 PM
Hmm, first the federal government had us destroy perfectly good cars with their cash for clunkers program and now LA is having us destroy perfectly good houses. We were a rich country but at this rate we will be Mexico before Obama is out of office.
No matter how bad government finances get they always seem to find money to employ completely worthless Nazis like the NAT team and the prosecutor in this article. These people never seem to lose their jobs even though their only purpose is to destroy what others have spent a lifetime building.
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Carlos I Estevez 06/30/2011 3:59:00 PM
I guess the necessary permits don't seem that expensive now that they have to tear it all down.
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Robtron12 06/30/2011 3:50:00 PM
What do you want to bet A. nonymous is actually an environmental group. These same rules apply in counties across the state. It will not be long until their appetite moves beyond LA county and rural residents with a valid permitted home will not be allowed to even store a motor home on it let alone have a car without a current registration.
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06/30/2011 3:17:00 PM
The system is broken. As for wishing government thugs get cancer, that is a bit easier on them and their families than all the stuff they do to destroy the lives of citizens.
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06/30/2011 2:49:00 PM
Same type of thing is happening here in OKC. The MAPS projects that are supposed to revitalize the city (which incidentally has the lowest unemployment rate and some of the lowest gas prices nationwide) by building large parks, are also forcibly buying the land surrounding them at current prices. After the land is turned into a park and the value of it goes through the roof, the city will then sell it to their buddies who want to build strip malls and business complexes next to the rehabilitated areas. Its just another way to rob people of their property rights and I for one am pretty pissed off about it.
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06/30/2011 2:45:00 PM
I like that idea, a type of blockade on LA county. If we could get the trash service there to stop collecting for a week or two, those filth producing liberals would drown in their own refuse.
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06/30/2011 2:15:00 PM
" BTW, anyone who might ever have been injured at Phonehenge would have sued the government for failing to demand code compliance"
Then I invoke Mr Bumble: "If that be the law, then the law is a ass." As a CA attorney, you should know as well as anyone how dementedly out of control tort law has become out there.
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Bskott 06/30/2011 1:32:00 PM
I love how the most liberal areas are also the least free. Despite the rhetoric, liberalism always leads to authoritarianism and an erosion of freedom.
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DougI 06/30/2011 1:23:00 PM
Maybe the AVTO should propose a truckers strike against LA County. A moratorium of services. I'll bet other truckers would support it.
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06/30/2011 12:53:00 PM
This is precisely why we must reduce the size and scope of government. These idiot bureaucrats and politicians will probably end up with the land out there to retire on with their fat six and seven digit government employee retirements that the rest of us are forced to pay for, just watch and see. Vote Libertarian!
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06/30/2011 12:50:00 PM
"Don't worry, folks. We've got this nice big concrete high-rise government housing project full of REALLY friendly neighbors who will take such a great interest in your personal affairs you will never feel lonely again."
"Besides, we have some independently wealthy, well connected people who might be interested in developing this property someday that we've agreed to sell options on it in order to raise the funds for your NEW HOME!, and some other, er, projects the administration and various county functionaries are big into."
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06/30/2011 12:36:00 PM
Keep your eye on this. I bet these properties end up in the hands of some "friends" of the government. Sorry little people. You're in the way and we want it. Disgusting.
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06/30/2011 11:41:00 AM
This looks like a case of serious abuse of government power to solve a non existent problem. They are applying rules and regulations enacted for urban and suburban to people living in rural areas where there application is to say the least questionable if not downright discriminatory.
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Tequilachugalugger 06/30/2011 9:04:00 AM
Sounds like it's time for a tar-and feather party for a whole lotta effing bureaucrats,,,,,
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movealong 06/30/2011 6:05:00 AM
The REAL public nuisance is the NAT team themselves, not the land owners.
They should take their guns out and shoot each other. The county would be a better place to live for it.
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06/30/2011 1:11:00 AM
It occured to me when I saw the state parole agent who "supervised" Garrito interviewed on a news program that he and Garrito appeared to be rather comptable people, which could explain the relaxed supervision given Garrito while he had Dugard in a shed in his backyard. Garrito no doubt had he roll of dutifully groveling parolee down pat.
Many of the persons attracted to urban law enforcemet agencies, seem to be unable to identify with anyone who is comfortable living in a rural environment, or who enjoys working with their hands. To the extent that those attacted to work in these agencies also tend to be indiffrent to their effect on others--in other words to be sociopaths, these rural residents become an easy way to occupy their time and create "workload" statistics.
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Sheepsheerer 06/29/2011 10:38:00 PM
LA County Probation didn't have the resources to actually spend a few minutes looking in Phil Garritos back yard for the 18 years while he had Jaycee Lee Dugard living chained to the ground and forced to bear his children in a tent but they have SWAT teams in Antelope Valley to make people whom don't seem to be bothering anyone comply with building codes.
Yet there are still statist apologists who see no evil here.
Shame on ALL of you.
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Sheepsheerer 06/29/2011 9:59:00 PM
Nor is a mobile home or a damn storage shack converted into a domicile an earthquake hazard. A damn plywood and 2x4 shack will withstand a hell of a lot more movement than our overpriced freeway overpasses and high rise buildings will.
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Sheepsheerer 06/29/2011 9:44:00 PM
And many of us who were born here in kalifornia before nosy, do it all the way we want you to and live your life our way a holes like "little leah" or their equally useless parents moved here and set up socialist fascist governance to bash the rest of us into compliance are tired of your pi ssing and moaning, too.
What do you care if some guy in the desert, many many miles from your pretentious condo or gestapo HOA and clear out of sight of anyone builds a shack that is not "earthquake safe" and wants to park a container next to it? EF you and all who use the government as your violent arm of "do it my way or else". Your day will come when there is no brutal arm of the government to satisfy your need to oppress others vicariously.
Oh what will you do when there is no one to shove people off their land when you service demanding mini tyrants impoverish this state to the point of defunding code enforcement swat teams to keep some guy from NOT being 100 miles away with his odd habits and strange ways living out of your exceedingly narrow field of view?
And no, many of those codes are NOT really necessary. They are nothing more than BS propagated by busybodies like you making others whose lives will never have any impact upon yours whatever live YOUR WAY.
I actively pray people like you are forced to deal with a government entity that bankrupts and displaces you someday.
You deserve full measure of the same treatment you dismiss as trivial when imposed on....."those people".
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voix de puissance 06/29/2011 8:58:00 AM
Welcome to Nazi Germany of 1933 with much more to come! Wake up people, we are loosing our country!
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Muscupiabe 06/28/2011 5:34:00 PM
Moses told us long ago that if we go astray from the Lord of Truth, Mercy & Faith, "those who hate us shall rule over us." The Prophet Daniel said the Lord would appoint "the basest of men" to rule over you. Leviticus 26:17, Daniel 4:17
Since Lincoln & Karl Marx won their communist revolution of 1861 against the American people, all 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto have been adopted as national & local policy & law.
Land use regulations & zoning are one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto.
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Hbusch 06/28/2011 8:23:00 AM
this reminds me of the same type tactics used in the late 70's and early 80's which ended in the mid or late 80's being convicted of crimes of conflict of interest.and thrown out of office.
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06/28/2011 3:02:00 AM
tinyurl.com/3nh9gss
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06/28/2011 1:56:00 AM
http://bloq.in/681
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Mile 06/27/2011 7:00:00 PM
just the same bunch who profited from the thievery of lands and brokerings called "titles" rather than the usurped and ripped off " deed" holders....horsesh@t
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Felina SanClemente 06/27/2011 6:05:00 AM
I found out about this article through a link sent to me by F.A.C.E.off, an organization that is fighting code enforcement abuse. You might want to check them out. Elected officials are going to find out that this is an ELECTION issue. The Teflon Letter is brilliant. I am going to fight this actively. "Don't Tread o1.22.333.ez@n Me" - or my neighbors, either.
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bustaroost 06/27/2011 2:13:00 AM
Its all about money. Always has been. The state is broke. I would like to know how much these code enforcement teams make a year and especially what their state pensions are. I bet its a lot. They dont care about the individuals being harmed or run out . Its about them and their lucrative pensions. We need to ban together and fight. Now im pissed
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bustaroost 06/27/2011 2:06:00 AM
I argree.
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Freetexas 06/26/2011 10:11:00 PM
How about the California state constitution? They would have to pay attention to that one.
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Marcelle 06/26/2011 9:45:00 PM
In the Lancaster court you cannot use the Constitution in your defense. Believe me, it was tried and refuted by the judge. We were told the Constitution does not apply In Antilope Valley.
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Marcelle 06/26/2011 9:34:00 PM
Neighbors cannot complained when there is none living within half a mile of you!!!!!!
Complaints are all bogus and you cannot prove it.
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Marcelle 06/26/2011 9:26:00 PM
You are not in AV. You should come and spend a week in the Lancaster court and see what really happens. Here we have no rights, we cannot use the constitution for defense. We were even told that the Constitution does not exist in Antelope Valley. Some attorney refers to this court as the last of the Far West and with reason. We have fought and fought and gain nothing after 3 years.
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06/26/2011 7:13:00 PM
The problem as I see it so far is that they are catching people on building code infractions. In California we have a ton of them, we have to. If people don't like it, either help change it or comply.
For all you people who are "leaving" California for these things, great, good luck and goodbye. I'm so tired of you people complaining and yet, here you still are.
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06/26/2011 7:00:00 PM
I think it's telling just how many things government handles as civil violations, thereby avoiding messy complications like the constitution's protections against governmental abuse of power and authority.
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06/26/2011 6:46:00 PM
"This is PRIVATE land with a PRIVATE home" and let us not forget out in the middle of nowhere. They speak of fire hazards well there isnt much to burn out in the middle of the damn desert.
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06/26/2011 6:42:00 PM
Before they take your house over the brown lawn they'll subject you to the death of a thousand paper cuts and fines. Someone once said something on the order of "it's a process under which a citizen goes in one end and come out the other as a sausage."
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06/26/2011 9:07:00 AM
Antonovich is a conversative republican not a democrat, liberal or otherwise.
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06/26/2011 9:06:00 AM
A winning lawsuit to enforce the 5th amendment right to just compensation for unlawful taking of property would cost them money they don't have and teach them a lesson. The courts would also issue an injunction until the case is over stopping the taking of the property. What is needed is some legal help. -
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06/26/2011 9:03:00 AM
Man if people didn't have enough reasons to leave California. How rediculous that vacant land can't be occupied by it's owner. This is such a violation of the 5th amendment right to have just compensation to taking of land is so obvious. If Govt won't let a land owner even occupy his/her own land there has been a taking for which payment must be made. I see a large lawsuit here that the government wouldn't win. So much for conservative antonovich and his republican values of constitutional rights.
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06/26/2011 3:42:00 AM
Government in CA is not really going after poor people, just people that can't afford to fight them. Civil cases do not come with court appointed attorneys; so when they charge you with a civil fine, you have the choice of trying to fight it with your own money, and possibly losing, or just paying the fine. This calculation figures in most of what the state and counties are up to these days. Code enforcers in San Joaquin county are targeting businesses, since they have to pay the exorbitant fines or spend even more to move. And the legislature has to go to Texas to find out why businesses are leaving the state...
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06/26/2011 1:16:00 AM
These assholes are literally asking for insurrection. I hope they are slaughtered to the last bastard.
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Sam 06/25/2011 11:26:00 PM
No wonder California has no money... they spend it on employing people to do stupid shit like this!
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Renee 06/25/2011 7:44:00 PM
understand your rage, but that last comment was totally unecessary!! Fight the system, through the system not by being mean-spirited and wishing something on some one u wouldn't want for your self!!
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Jack 06/25/2011 5:21:00 PM
LA will never wake up it seems. Villarigosa for Mayor, Brown for Governor, people like Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi getting elected. The County is no different either in many respects. Read carefully here. This is not lodging for others who expect safety, etc. This is PRIVATE land with a PRIVATE home. So Abe Lincoln's log cabin would be torn down. But each election or session of legislature a new little thing, which is innocuous into and of itself, is enacted and slowly the erosion of your rights and your remedies occurs. And many don't know it until stories like this. And most don't care until it comes to their doorstep. I pray everyone will wake up from the cool-aid soon, but I fear the suicide of our State and, in many ways our nation, is at hand. Forget the democrat v republican arguments. Think freedom, rights, balanced budgets, opportunity, growth and jobs.
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Billy Gates 06/25/2011 3:47:00 PM
If they came on my property that I own and paid for, I would just up and start shooting them.
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JimRed 06/25/2011 3:46:00 PM
If your lawn is not brown, they'll fine you for watering it, I'll bet!
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06/25/2011 3:24:00 PM
How long before a well-connected Obama democrat announces option to buy these lands and acquire government funds to build a "solar farm" ?
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06/25/2011 3:20:00 PM
Thanks for this story, very disturbing. You need to get rid of ALL your pols California, but with the election of re-tread Jerry Brown that seems unlikely.
