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Men's County Jail Visitor Viciously Beaten by Guards

Sheriff Lee Baca says jail is unsupervisable and should be shut down

Shackled in handcuffs, Gabriel Carrillo was being detained in a small break room near the visitors' lobby in Men's Central Jail when, he says, a Sheriff's deputy knocked him to the floor with an uppercut.

The Men's Central Jail
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The Men's Central Jail
Carrillo several days after being beaten
Carrillo several days after being beaten
Carrillo after his face healed
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Carrillo after his face healed
L.A. County's Twin Towers jail and medical services building
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L.A. County's Twin Towers jail and medical services building
Sheriff's deputies outside jail
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Sheriff's deputies outside jail
Peter Eliasberg and Esther Lim of the ACLU
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Peter Eliasberg and Esther Lim of the ACLU

Carrillo, 5 feet 6 and 160 pounds, doubled over in pain. Three deputies began kicking and punching the baby-faced 23-year-old in his head and thigh, tearing his white T-shirt while blood splattered on his blue jeans and Air Jordans.

With each blow, Carrillo felt his body jerk as his head bounced up and down on the cold, county building floor. He briefly lost consciousness, only to wake to the sting of punches to his head and face.

Through eyes purple with bruises and nearly swollen shut, Carrillo could see blood pouring out of his head onto the floor.

"I'm not fucking resisting," he cried out.

Suddenly, Carrillo felt a blast of chemical spray. He was blinded and gasping for air as more punches pummeled his increasingly numb legs and torso. It was like being caught in a violent ocean wave, Carrillo recalls. Every time he tried to come up for air, another blow drove him back under.

"I can't breathe! I can't breathe!" Carrillo wheezed.

"Shut the fuck up," Carrillo claims a deputy said. "If you can talk, you can breathe."

Finally, Carrillo lay motionless, watching officers wipe his blood off the floor with clean towels, thinking to himself, "How did this happen? All I was trying to do was visit my brother in jail."

Carrillo arrived at Men's Central Jail, a dungeonlike fortress near downtown Los Angeles, around noon on Feb. 26 with his girlfriend, Grace Torres, to visit his younger brother, who was locked up on charges of carrying a concealed weapon.

It was a Saturday, and Torres was on call for her job at an employment agency. She says she was afraid of being fired if she missed a call, so she tucked her cellphone into her boot and sneaked it into the visitors' lobby, despite the signs prohibiting it. Carrillo, a general laborer who helped build a stage for an Academy Awards after-party next to the El Capitan Theater, says he forgot he had a phone in his pocket.

While they waited, Torres moved to scratch her foot and her phone fell onto the floor. Within minutes, she claims, deputies had confiscated the phones, handcuffed Carrillo and taken the two of them into the break room, where a deputy pushed Carrillo into the side of a refrigerator.

Carrillo admits that he mouthed off, telling the officer, "If I weren't in these handcuffs, it'd be a different situation and I wouldn't let myself get thrown around like this." He says he was trying to compensate for being scared.

The deputy, however, called for backup.

When the beating was over, an ambulance took Carrillo to the hospital. He could not open his right eye and received stitches above his eyebrow. A doctor told him he'd suffered chemical burns from the toxic spray. Photos obtained by L.A. Weekly show clear evidence of a severe beating to his head.

The county is prosecuting Carrillo, claiming he attacked the deputies and that the force was justified.

The beating was unusual in that Carrillo was a visitor and not an inmate. But the abuse he suffered is not uncommon. A growing chorus of inmates tells of broken noses, shattered jaws and other injuries from sustained beatings by Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputies who serve as guards at Men's Central Jail.

Conditions at the jail, the largest in the world, have long been considered deplorable. For more than 35 years, civil rights organizations have worked with the Sheriff's Department to make improvements. But in recent years, they say, the severity and brazenness of abuse have escalated.

Men's Central Jail "is the worst facility in the country," says Peter Eliasberg, managing attorney for the ACLU of Southern California — the only outside organization today with regular access inside the jail. The jail "is the most violent, the most dangerous, and it's a cancer right in the heart of Los Angeles."

Twenty-five years ago, a decade after the ACLU filed a federal lawsuit to improve conditions at L.A. County jails, the civil rights organization was allowed to place a monitor inside the jails. One of the hopes was to curtail jailer abuse of inmates, 90 percent of whom are awaiting disposition of their cases and thus have not been found guilty of crimes.

Yet today, the number of inmate complaints to the ACLU about abuse by jailers at all county lockups is greater than ever, with a disproportionate number specifically from inmates at Men's Central Jail.

The ACLU says that as of a couple of years ago, it was receiving from inmates in county lockups three to four complaints per week that allege unprovoked abuse by deputies. It now fields six to seven complaints a week.

"Los Angeles County jails are rapidly developing a reputation as perhaps the worst in the nation," says Margaret Winter, a Washington, D.C., attorney who leads the ACLU's National Prison Project effort to combat abuses in jails. "I'm basing that it's the worst on that I've never seen this accumulation of violence. The severity, the frequency and the boldness is stunning, and I believe unprecedented."

Winter recently handled a trial in Arizona involving abuses in the Maricopa County jail under hard-line Sheriff Joe Arpaio. She says, "The degree of violence is no comparison with the frequency and savagery we see in L.A. County jails."

Kelly Knapp, an attorney for the Prison Law Office in San Francisco, says L.A. County's Men's Central Jail "is known as notoriously bad in California and nationwide. It's crumbling down and is overcrowded ... and I think when we talk about conditions, old and crumbling down, they go hand in hand with abuse."

The scope of the problem at the jail is difficult to assess because the Sheriff's Department keeps much of its information regarding force incidents and abuse out of public view.

The department has constructed a cone of silence around the issue of guard-on-inmate abuse and, according to the ACLU, does not disclose much information about excessive force — not details of internal investigations, not how it determines what is or is not "reasonable force," not the disciplinary actions, if any, taken against offending guards, not the number of complaints inmates make through the inmate grievance process. Attorneys who sue on behalf of abused inmates are prohibited from discussing a deputy's record of using force or the number and nature of complaints against him.

Referring to the Maricopa County case, Winter says, "We've had nothing like the problems in getting the statistical information that we're having in L.A. County."

In response to a public records request from the Weekly, the L.A. County Sheriff's Department revealed that between 2005 and 2010, there were 5,977 use-of-force incidents in all of the county's jails. Men's Central Jail was home to 1,958 of those incidents.

Lt. Mark McCorkle, charged with supervising the county's jails, says that in most cases the use of force is found to have been justified and that no criminal act or internal-policy violation occurred. After reviewing the above statistics, he points out that the number of incidents overall has declined recently throughout the county jails — from 1,051 in 2009 to 708 in 2010.

By refusing to release specific details about those cases in L.A., however, the Sheriff's Department makes it impossible for the public to determine the extent of the abuse problem in its jails. Absent those details, the sole source of information about the jails comes from the ACLU, which is limited to documenting claims of abuse and adding them to a thick federal court case file. The organization has no power to investigate.

Somewhat surprising, perhaps, is that critics of the jail and Sheriff Lee Baca have found one fact to agree upon: Men's Central Jail is unsupervisable and should be shuttered.

Given the county's current budget crisis, however, Baca says there's no money to build a new jail. So despite the troubling conditions and rising tide of inmates complaining to the ACLU about being beaten and treated poorly, life at Men's Central Jail marches on, one allegation of abuse at a time.

Located just east of Chinatown, about a mile from downtown, Men's Central Jail is a testament to hulking, early 1960s jail construction. At nearly 1 million square feet, with a current average of about 4,000 inmates housed there daily, the building has a massive, daunting exterior. Its interior, however, is medieval.

Many of the floors are made up of long corridors lined with cells, making it impossible to see into any one cell without standing directly in front of it. From a supervision standpoint, Men's Central Jail is a nightmare.

Baca and the ACLU blame the layout of Men's Central Jail, in part, for the difficulties overseeing abusive jailers.

"The way the cells are lined up and the way they crowd people in there, Central Jail looks like the hulls in slave ships or the bunks in Dachau," Eliasberg says. "They're in rows and rows of cells, and to think you can monitor and run something like that safely is insane."

For many years, the county's Office of Independent Review and the ACLU have advocated placing cameras throughout the jail to document what occurs. "There are times when deputies are not being held accountable because we can't reach the level of proof we need to go forward," says Michael Gennaco, chief attorney in the Office of Independent Review, which reviews force incidents and Baca's disciplinary decisions. "Cameras tend to be tiebreakers."

Some cameras do exist; however, Gennaco says many of the ones in Men's Central Jail are outdated and don't work well.

Eliasberg says the technology for camera surveillance in jails has existed since the 1980s, yet L.A. County has dragged its feet. "The county says it has no money for cameras, yet they have hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay out lawsuit settlements," he says. In response to a public information request from the Weekly, Los Angeles County says it has paid out only $738,850 from 2008 through 2010 to settle lawsuits alleging abuse by jail deputies.

"We've got to start aggressively pursuing getting cameras in there," says Steve Whitmore, a spokesman for Baca. The L.A. County Board of Supervisors recently approved $7.2 million in one-time funding for closed-circuit television monitoring. But for it to be effective, even the Sheriff's Department concedes there needs to be a camera aimed down each hallway — and into nearly every one of the 2,825 cells.

Without those cameras, inmates — and the ACLU — are in a position of weakness. "After a beating, deputies often claim that the prisoners were the attackers, even though many were handcuffed ... cowering from incoming blows," the ACLU wrote in a report.

Carrillo, the laborer who was beaten while visiting his brother, says he was handcuffed during the entire beating and that the officers were trying to teach him a lesson for his smart-aleck remarks.

The deputies, however, state in their reports that Carrillo was not in cuffs and fought wildly, punching and kicking officers as they tried to book him for illegally possessing a phone. They claim the use of force was necessary to subdue him.

After the incident, Carrillo was charged with battery on a custodial officer, resisting an executive official and attempted escape during lawful detention.

"When I read the police report," Carrillo says, "I was blown away how they created such a convenient story for themselves."

Nearly all of those making allegations of abuse at Men's Central Jail face the same fundamental problem as Carrillo: It's their word versus the cops', and the cops rarely lose.

The ACLU's Eliasberg says, "At best you get witness corroboration from other inmates, but by and large it's almost always the inmate against a number of deputies, and juries are very sympathetic to officers."

On Jan. 24 of this year, the current ACLU jail monitor, Esther Lim, reported that she saw a pair of deputies savagely beat inmate James Parker at the county's Twin Towers jail, next door to Men's Central Jail. In a federal court declaration, Lim said the officers continued to beat Parker even though he seemed unconscious and was not fighting back. Parker "looked like a mannequin that was being used as a punching bag," she said.

The sheriff's log, according to news reports, said Parker attacked the deputies and would not stop until he was hit with a stun gun.

Lim, who is relatively new to her job, had never personally filed a declaration against the Sheriff's Department, Eliasberg says. After she did so, the department fired back. Instead of treating Lim as a witness to a potential crime, Sheriff's Department spokesman Whitmore questioned Lim, asking in a widely distributed Associated Press report why she waited several weeks to file a declaration in court and did not report the abuse right away.

Eliasberg has said Lim did not report the abuse immediately because she was scared and because more than a dozen other incidents of abuse reported by the ACLU in the last year had gone nowhere at the department.

Shortly after the Parker incident, the ACLU asked Daniel Richman, a Columbia University law professor and former federal prosecutor, to comment on Whitmore's remarks. Richman issued a stern statement, saying, "It is odd, and indeed troubling, when a law enforcement spokesman publicly disparages the credibility of a potential prosecution witness."

Whitmore has said that both Internal Affairs and the Office of Independent Review are examining the case, and Eliasberg says he has asked the U.S. Attorney's Office to investigate and is optimistic that the feds are looking into it.

Winter, of the ACLU's National Prison Project, says she recently took an informal survey of prison litigators across the country and discovered that most are aware of incidents similar to what Lim witnessed, "in that the inmate claimed they were subjected to a severe beating while the jailers were calling out to an unresisting inmate, 'Stop resisting, stop resisting,' using the typical script as a cue that the victim will be made the criminal.

"What was unique, which no one around the country had ever heard of, was the boldness and brazenness for an attack like this to happen in essentially a public area of the jail," Winter says. "I think this clearly indicates that the violence has been so deeply rooted and has for so long been accepted by the top brass that there's no sense of shame or fear of being punished. There is a boldness that is breathtaking here and that doesn't exist anywhere else."

The ACLU began its journey toward eradicating cruel and unusual punishment from the L.A. County jails in 1975, when it sued the county and the sheriff in federal court. The county lost, reforms were made and conditions slowly began to improve. But when jail populations started to explode in the 1980s, those improvements vanished, and conditions went south. In 1985, the county agreed to allow an ACLU member inside the jails to monitor conditions as a compromise and alternative to the ACLU hauling the county back into court for contempt.

Now, more than 25 years later, the ACLU says its Prison Project team receives an average of 4,500 inmate complaints a year, on issues that include violence, retaliation, mental health care and unsanitary conditions. From March through August of 2010, the ACLU fielded more than 70 complaints about excessive force or retaliation by deputies from inmates inside Men's Central Jail. The organization has received hundreds of like complaints over the past two years from inmates at the jail. The ongoing federal court case file is bursting with declarations from inmates telling stories of bone-rattling abuse.

"I don't even want to talk about how long this has been going on," Eliasberg says. "It's mind-boggling. And there's a level of frustration that you report this stuff over and over, and the county and sheriff's response is always, 'We've looked into it, it's not true, prisoners lie.' It's hard to get a hold on all of the violence because it's he said, he said, and it generally happens without people seeing it."

The incident with Whitmore and Lim was just the latest chapter in the contentious, often frosty relationship between the ACLU and the Sheriff's Department.

When asked about the ACLU, Whitmore says, "The sheriff supports the ACLU in spirit — we just have a problem with their exaggerations and overstatements."

As for how the ACLU perceives the Sheriff's Department, Eliasberg says: "We've made a number of efforts over the years to try to figure out ways to close MCJ and make improvements for the benefit of both the inmates and the guards. I can't say every single suggestion we've made has been rejected, but we've made a huge number that nothing has happened on."

Last summer, for example, the ACLU came up with an idea to reduce the inmate population just enough to close Men's Central Jail — which Baca agrees needs to be done — without having to build a new one.

The ACLU offered to pay Dr. James Austin, a national expert on prisons and overcrowding, to examine the inmate population to see if there were ways to thin the herd. Austin crunches the numbers to find ways to reclassify inmates, potentially allowing them to be put on monitored release or in lower-security areas. Among his successes, Austin was able to reduce the prison population in Mississippi and save the state hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

"Jim was able to help us reduce our maximum-security population from 2,000 to 200 and save us a whole ton of money," says Christopher Epps, commissioner of the Mississippi Department of Corrections. "We also were able to close a 1,000-bed facility. I'm glad we paid Jim to help us — and if it was free, we definitely would have jumped on it."

Austin's proposal for L.A. County called for analyzing Men's Central Jail inmate information, which the Sheriff's Department told him was easily accessible, and 90 days later issuing a report with recommendations. The work wouldn't cost Los Angeles County a penny because it would be financed by the ACLU.

At first, the sheriff refused, Eliasberg says. Baca and the county counsel's office then said it would give Austin the data but only if it was placed under a court seal, meaning the information could never be made public. Austin also could not disclose his findings about ways to reduce the inmate population and close down Men's Central Jail.

"We said, 'So if Austin does a report saying the facility could be emptied out and the sheriff is holding people he doesn't need to, we can't make that public?' " says Eliasberg. "It would be like the report didn't exist. So in the end, they refused to allow the best expert in the country to come in."

None of the five county supervisors returned L.A. Weekly's request for comment, but Supervisor Michael Antonovich's justice deputy, Anna Pembedjian, says she has never heard of the Austin proposal. Whitmore says the same.

However, Assistant County Counsel Roger Granbo has heard about Austin's idea. Granbo says the consensus from the county's side was that Austin's report was not necessary. Granbo says that while the ACLU "wanted to use it as a public document, that really was not something we were interested in."

This lack of transparency has long been a sticking point with critics of the jail. Complaints against individual deputies, discipline records and investigative reports that would reveal how internal investigations are conducted are not publicly available and are accessible to attorneys only under a protective seal.

The ACLU complains that Baca refuses to share the annual number of complaints received through the jail's inmate grievance system, which processes thousands more complaints a year than the ACLU receives, or the nature of the complaints or the resolutions reached.

"The [sheriff] has, for years, refused to disclose ... how it reviews use-of-force incidents [or] what criteria it uses to assess the 'reasonableness' of the force used," states an ACLU report. "This lack of transparency and accountability may only serve to reinforce a culture within LASD that allows abuse of prisoners to go relatively unchecked since, in the end, there is apparently no independent source for weighing the prisoner's word against the deputy's."

In essence, critics conclude, Baca keeps reams of meaningful data to himself and asks the public to trust his word that the world's biggest jail is really not that bad.

Whitmore acknowledges the problem but says the county's hands are tied.

"There are various things that have nothing to do with the Sheriff's Department," he says. "Personnel records are private, and the Peace Officers Bill of Rights prevents the sheriff from releasing deputy names. I don't know how you'd get around that."

The Office of Independent Review was designed to shed light on how the Sheriff's Department operates. But according to Gennaco's 2004 contract with the county, as head of that office, Gennaco has an attorney-client relationship with the county and the sheriff, unlike the inspector general for LAPD. This means that what Gennaco sees, says and does in his investigations is confidential, the same as if Gennaco were Baca's lawyer. Gennaco cannot testify in court, for example, about any of his work.

Attorney Sonia Mercado, who lost a bid in court to get Gennaco to testify about an Office of Independent Review investigation, says, "As a lawyer, your duty and solemn obligation is to your client and to not do or say anything contrary to your client's best interests. If the OIR is Baca's attorney, we must stop calling it the Office of Independent Review. It taints itself to be so closely associated with the group it is supposed to be investigating."

Gennaco disagrees, arguing that the privilege allows his office access to otherwise confidential documents, such as Internal Affairs reports, critical to overseeing Sheriff's Department investigations.

"To me, it's a bunch of junk," Gennaco says. "The privilege provides us access, but it's never been used to try and influence what we do. I think the trade-off is important to have that access, and I think the civil lawyers are mad because we won't help them with their lawsuits against the sheriff."

Addressing the question of transparency, Gennaco wrote a letter to the ACLU and the county supervisors, stating: "Our work over the past eight years has provided more transparency regarding the internal investigative processes and discipline of LASD than any other sheriff's department in the country. In our view, it is in no one's best interest to keep these processes in the dark."

To back up his claim, Gennaco points to his office's public reports, which provide information concerning all Internal Affairs investigations, the outcome of the investigation and an assessment as to whether the investigation was adequate.

"You won't find another law enforcement agency in the country that does that," Gennaco says, with the exception of the California corrections department and the Orange County Sheriff's Department, whose processes were based on Gennaco's recommendations.

Yet Gennaco acknowledges that his office does not conduct independent investigations into every use-of-force incident. During a 2005 court hearing, Gennaco's attorney, Jennifer Gysler, said the Office of Independent Review does not "investigate the event itself." Instead, Gysler says in court papers, describing Gennaco's actual work: "They review what was done by the Sheriff's investigators ... [and] look at the investigation that was done through a legal prism" to make sure "it complied with the law."

Gennaco says that if an inmate kills himself or is murdered, he or his colleagues go to the crime scene to make sure sheriff's investigators are asking the right questions. But, he says, in cases where nobody dies, which make up the majority of the jail's roughly 80 abuse allegations that Gennaco's office reviews each year, his office conducts a review of the sheriff's investigation file.

If a witness is intimidated not to talk, or if a witness is never interviewed by the Sheriff's detectives, the Office of Independent Review might never know it. Eliasberg says the office's work therefore can only be as good as the investigations it is reviewing.

"We would need 40 times the people we have right now to do our own investigations," Gennaco says. However, "You are right that when we're not on the scene there may be a time when something might slip by."

Even Baca's spokesman, Whitmore, says, "The OIR doesn't have its own investigators, and I've always thought that it probably should."

In February, on the day Gabriel Carrillo was injured by several officers in Men's Central Jail, a sheriff's deputy escorted his girlfriend, Grace Torres, out of the little break room near the visitors' lobby, and seated her near a group of deputies. Ten or so minutes later, she saw officers walking out of the break room with blood on their uniforms.

Torres says she heard someone instructing the deputies who had been in the room with Carrillo to clean themselves up. Then, she says, she heard one of them say, "Should I say my rib or jaw hurts?"

Torres wheeled around. "Really?" she asked.

The officers then stopped for a moment, Torres says, and began whispering.

An hour later, Torres says, a deputy approached her and said he was going to interview her and that "Whether we let you go depends on what you say" — a threat to pursue charges against her for having a cellphone in her shoe.

The officer explained to Torres that her boyfriend's brother, who was in jail, had gotten into a physical confrontation with police the day he'd been arrested. The deputy wanted Torres to say in a recorded statement that her boyfriend was mad when he arrived at the visitors' area to see his brother.

"I told the deputy, 'No, he was not upset or mad,' " Torres says. "Then they turned off the recorder and said I'm not cooperating and that they can add charges to Gabriel — and that I could go to jail."

Next, the officer handed Torres a sheet of paper to write a statement.

"They said they need me to write in my own words that my boyfriend was upset because the cops beat up his brother," Torres says. "When I would try to add anything, they'd take it away and tell me what to write."

According to Torres' written statement in Gabriel Carrillo's case file, she wrote, "He was mad at the sheriff for beating up his younger brother."

Carrillo's defense attorney, Jack Stennett, says he isn't surprised by any of the deputies' alleged tactics or the charges against his client.

"I've done a number of these cases," he says, "and one officer lies and the other officer swears to it. You've got the thick blue line and it's the same old game as planting a gun on someone. It's a farce." [Ed. note: Carrillo this week changed attorneys, hiring Ron Kaye.]

Carrillo says the deputies overreacted to his smart-ass comment and that he did nothing to deserve his battered, blackened face and a trip to the hospital. He has no plans to accept a plea deal from the district attorney, who is prosecuting him on the basis of the deputies' claims that Carrillo attacked them.

"I know it's an uphill battle," he says, "but this is wrong and needs to be fought."

Click here for "Prisoners Testify to Vicious Beatings at Hands of County Jailers," by Chris Vogel.

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Blondeeb52
Blondeeb52

Im soooooo sick and tired of ALL POLICE/SHERIFF DEPT ASSHOLES "GETTING AWAY WITH ABUSE, MURDER, AND LYING THEIR ASSES OFF!!!!

There are LAWS!!!! THEY apply to EVERYONE!!!!! No exceptions!!! No excuses!!! Im sick of the hypocrits DOUBLE STANDARDS!!!!

STOP THEM!!!!!! GET SOME COURAGE PEOPLE!!! Stand up and complain!

My son was HOG TIED, AND KNEELED ON, by TWO SHERIFFS DEPUTIES, a total ofmore than OVER 400 LBS!!! for OVER 20 MINUTES!!! A U.S. MARINE!!! Weighing a LEAN/SKINNY aprox. 170 lbs

This 26 year old had been home, after FIVE YEARS and THREE TOURS, for a short 4 months. He was JUMPED FROM BEHIND (CHICKEN SHITS!) because he had a torn shirt (front.. 8-10" tear) and a crunched cowboy hat (WOW boys!!! It was a freaking RODEO!!! dumb asses! And the boy was with his PARENTS! BOTH parents were injured (recent double mastectomy, for breast cancer; and the Dad was in a sling from having shoulder surgery!!

BOTH parents, AND a 23 year old girl, who spends ALL of her time working with handicapped children and wounded vets, with theraputic horse riding, were shoved, hit, KNOCKED DOWN! and harmed; for NO REASON!!!

They had been called to a fight, which was over 200 yards behind the family!!! They never went to the fight theyd been called to. EIGHT sheriffs deputies and RESERVISTS spent OVER 40 MINUTES, KNOCKING THE HELL OUT OF THE BOY (slamming his face down over and over again, into the PAVEMENT! They broke his nose, ground off his forehead, arms, shoulders, and ALMOST suffocated!!!) A US MARINE, TAUGHT TO FIGHT, did NOT EVER offer resistance! His ONLY struggle was to turn his head to gasp for air!!! They broke his nose for it. He was TAZED over 13 times!! 11 of those WHILE FACE DOWN and SAT/KNEELED ON, ON THE GROUND.

A U.S. MARINE!!!!! BEATEN BY HIS OWN COUNTYMEN!!!!

MAKE those pansy ass cops spend a MINIMUM of 4 years in the REAL SERVICE!!! THE ARMED FORCES. MAKE THEM go spend all their energy, ANGER AND ATTITUDE, FIGHTING MEN that AREN'T HOG TIED! AND LAYING DOWN on their FACES!!! See if THEY can survive!!!!

Our country is becoming full of a bunch of pansies... I'm ashamed!

For ALL of OUR HONORABLE, LOYAL SOLDIERS and men.... HELP US!!!

PROTECT US.... AGAINST THREATS... BOTH foreign AND DOMESTIC!!!!

Blondeeb52
Blondeeb52

PS... there are a handful of cops that do their job, to make the world a better place. BUT, YOU'RE ONLY as GOOD, as YOUR WEAKEST LINK!!!

TOO MANY of you don't stand up to do the right thing, regarding police brutality.... THAT makes YOU, PART OF THE PROBLEM!! AN ACCOMPLICE!!! Which makes YOU just as guilty. You know thats how YOU SEE IT!

Dank21
Dank21

Stupid fucken sheriffs, i hope they all go to hell for what they do. Not all of them tho. Just the ones that abuse there power, and the ones that are straight up dicks!!!

USABeachGirl
USABeachGirl

USABeachGirl

USABeachGirl

Correction Carrillo needs to be in Jail after he spit punched elbow Deputies the Deputies are not at fault.

The person ar fault is Carillo punching hitting spitting on. Carrllio is not a Victim but a CRIMINAL.

Instead of acting like a human being acts like an Animanl my opinion Carrillo Violent Brother in jail confeased weapons he Carrillo punched a Deputy Newpapers are not telling how Carrillo assault Deputies.

Carrillo tried to bolt from the room and encountered another deputy, whom Carrillo punched in the chest. Carrillo punched and kicked at the deputies as they struggled to control him.

He is one violnet man Carrillo

Carrillo spat a mixture of spray, saliva and blood at one of the deputies. Three deputies were taken to a hospital for treatment, including hepatitis vaccinations.

Stop the Lies on the Depuites he is a man who is Violent acting like a Thug now is crying poor me look what happend the truth is CARRLLO eblow one Deputy bolted out of the room punched another Deputy in the chest INNOCENT MEN DO NOT ACT LIKE THIS.

Carrilo is a Hoodlum Assaulting Deputies CARRILLO needs stop lying and go to JAIL.

Set up kicks punched at the Depuites spat this ia like an animal my opiion he himself casues himself to fall Torrese takes his picture give me a break instead of being a man he is acting like a thug take off the shirt show us the tattos.USABeachGirl

USABeachGirl.

Blondeeb52
Blondeeb52

You need a wake up if you believe that bunk! The cops start beating people, and we get called the THUGS!!! I'll have to put that in our notes... being a plastic surgeon, or a dentist... makes us thugs if we struggle to avoid being beaten.

It doesnt matter if the man is a thug... he has rights as well!

And what do tatoos have to do with anything?

USABeachGirl
USABeachGirl

USABeachGirl

Story should read Carrillo needs to be arrested in jail Carrillo assult on Deputies hit, punched hit chest spit on by Carillo needs to be in jail.

Carrillo for assault spitting is Assault. Torres now lies about her statemet give me a break cry me a River.

Both went to that jail looking for trouble why did Torres have a camera to take his picture he fell after he punched hit in the chest the Deputy then acting like and animal. set up for money.My opinion

Carrillo spat a mixture of spray, saliva and blood at one of the deputies. Three deputies were taken to a hospital for treatment, including hepatitis vaccinations.

My opinion ACLU stop the lies Leave Sheriff Baca alone Leave his Depuites alone my opinion your defending the thug who hit spit punched Depuites he is a Criminal. ACLU your Pathetic.

God Bless you Sheriff Baca, God Bless you Depuites, God help the Depuites workig in HELL LA jail abused spit on puched cussed at what kind of world do we live in???????????????

ACLU (My OPINION) pick on someoe else leave Sheriff Baca alone ACLU YOU resign all you do is start trouble my opinion.USABeachGirl

USABeachGirl
USABeachGirl

USABeachGirl

Carrillo's girlfriend told deputies after the incident that her boyfriend had been angry and aggressive over his brother's recent arrest for fighting with sheriff's deputies. She says now that she was coerced.

No one told her to say the above now she is lying my opinion Carillo and Torres went to that jail violent his Brother was in jail for concealed weapons.

They read the sign no cell phones so they Carillo hid his cell phone in his pocket Torres tellsDepuites Carillo has a cell phone CARRILLO punched kicked hit the Depuites.

Carrillo and Torres are the Trouble makes not the Victims why did the Depuites have to go to the hospitl??????

Carrillo tried to bolt from the room and encountered another deputy, whom Carrillo punched in the chest. Carrillo punched and kicked at the deputies as they struggled to control him.

Carrillo spat a mixture of spray, saliva and blood at one of the deputies. Three deputies were taken to a hospital for treatment, including hepatitis vaccinations.

Abuse on the Depuites has to stop Carrillo shoud be arrested spitting on someone is Assault bashing Sheriff Baca and the Deputies is wrong Carrillo Torres went to HELL LA jail looking for trouble.

Now he is suing nice family NOT hits, spits on Depuites punches Deputy Brother concealed weapons Torres now lies filling a false police report is illegal. These lawsuits are an attempt at disgruanted people family in jail mad so they lie as Retalation. ( My Opinion My Thouhgts)USABeachGirl

MIKELELEY
MIKELELEY

SEEM LIKE U HAVE SO MUCH INFO REGARDING CARRILLO OR YOU ARE ASSOCIATED TO SHERIFF DEPUTIES. ONE UNARMED MAN AGAINST THREE DEPUTIES???? GIVE ME A BREAK, LOOK AT HIS PICTURE!! THIS IS ONE OF SO MANY UNJUSTIFIED BRUTALITIES WHICH MADE FBI TO INVESTIGATE ENTIRE AGENCY

Blondeeb52
Blondeeb52

Yeah, NO SHIT!!

The cop gets spat on, and a hit "to the CHEST??" RIGHT! A place where you can't prove he was full of crap! And look what they gave back, for such horrid (NOT!) injuries.

BRUTALITY is BULL CRAP! They have NO EXCUSE! Restrain, THEN STOP! THAT'S THE LAW!!!

USABeachGirl
USABeachGirl

USABeachGirl

Story should read Carrillo sneaks cell phone in mouths off makes Threat to Deputy now who is to blame??

Put the blame where it should be on Carrillo he is the one creating all the prooblems cell phone mouths off (he may my own opinion) have lunged and tried to hit the Deputy????(My Opinion)

I find that Carrillo mouths off to the Depuites him and his Girlfriend break the rules with cell phones now the Depuites get the blame give me a break.

Carrillos own words If I wern't in these hand cuffs to the Depuites to me it is a threat. Who does he think he is threatening a Deputy?

I am sick of Depuites being Abuse and sick of all these cry babies stories bottom line (my opinion) STAY OUT OF JAIL STOP BREAKING THE LAW STOP ABUSING SHEIRFF BACA AND THE DEPUTIES. STOP THE LIES

I am so sick of everyone bashing Sheriff Baca, Depuites and the Sheriff Dept it makes me sick now all of a sudden the Criminals are acting like victims.

Give me a break please he post vists his Brother in jail for concelled weapons he brings a cell phone which he knew Jail did not allow he mouths off appreas to have Threaten Depuites his words. ( My opinion I think he injured himself)

Fact is Depuites are Abused in Jail by the Criminals (my own opinion) now it apprears my by Carrllio and his mouth.

A 5 year old would read the sign and not bring the cell phone in (my thougths my opinion) both Carrillio & GF mad and tried to start trouble who does not know they have their cell phone on them?/?????????????

Sheriff Lee Baca a good man a kind man and a man of Compassion, Lt Mc, Depuites, Sheriff Personal are all good people.

Stop Bashing Sheirff Baca, His Depuites, Sheirffs Dept men are in jail for being Criminals their stories are a joke.

Fact Depuites are cussed at, threatened, Urinated on bullied terrorized by Jail inmates and they have to take it.

If his Carrillos Brother his words did not have a gun was not in jail concealed weapon ( post) I think Carrillo was aready mad so him and his GF (My thoughts my opinion)

Deliberlity brought the Cell phones in knowing the sign said no cell phone and he Carrillo my opinion mad brother in jail mouthed off. My opinion.

Cry me a river we were not there how do we know he did not try and hit the Deputy cause his own injuries.

People this Abuse of Sheriff Baca and Our Deputies must stop now, People do not go to jail for being soooooooooooooooooo good they are Criminals.

Carrillo admits that he mouthed off, telling the Deputy, "If I weren't in these handcuffs, it'd be a different situation and I wouldn't let myself get thrown around like this."

God Bless you Sheriff Baca, God Bless you Lt Mc K, God Bless Deputies God Bless the Sheriff Dept. I stay behind you 400% I know as a Victim of Domestic Violence all Deputies who came to my home were kind to both of us.USABeachGirl

Robin MissmewiddaBs Hairs
Robin MissmewiddaBs Hairs

if he hit a cop then the cop should have pictures showing his bruises he/she should have hospital reports stating the same. if the jails start suspending these guards without pay. this kinda of crap wouldnt happen. not to mention the fact that the beatings amount to assault which is a crime. so that makes them criminals themselves

C C
C C

I think Carillo and his girlfriend BOTH should have been charged with something. FOLLOW FUCKING DIRECTIONS! They are for the safety of you, the inmates and the staff. I'm sick and tired of people "forgetting" about their cell phones and other personal property that THEY ALONE are in control of.

But the beatings, no. In fact, I'm disappointed they were beaten because now these morons are "heros".

C C
C C

By the way (one more thing I forgot). Carillo and his girlfriend are the people who spawn rules and regulations for bullshit. Now every visitor will be treated to full and thorough searches because of selfish idiots like them. not that I necessarily care about visiting a jail, but it bleeds into daily life, doesn't i? We have all kinds of stupid laws to make up for the stupid people. Stupid regulations, stupid inspections, stupid hold ups because of selfish stupid people like these.

C C
C C

I shoulddn't have said "they" were beaten. It was just the boyfriend. But still, the girlfriend should be charged for thinking the world revolves around her. Or perhaps the boyfriend for thinking the world revolved around him for pressuring his g/f to go to visit a jail when she might get a call to work.

They're both losers.

Kurt Cuboid
Kurt Cuboid

I am not finding any sympathy for his story.

It appears Carrillo was up to no good, and a mouthpiece to boot. (pun intended)

Jrode27
Jrode27

The sherrifs unwillingness to have the report publisized just shows you how bad the violence is from our deputy sherriffs. It's a shame that the general public is afraid of the police. They abuse their authority without fear of punishment. And the ACLU acts as if their hands are tied. I wish there were someone with the courage to do something about this growing problem. Like the cops on PAID leave for beating that man to death. That many officers can't put cuffs on 1 unarmed man is outrageous. Either they are trained wrong or they are LIARS and criminas themselves.

Nikodisias Papalapsuslos
Nikodisias Papalapsuslos

YES , WE CAN...YES , WE CAN...WE WILL WIN IN WAR ON TERROR (30 whities or what are terrorists will never come back alive...thank you lord....aaamen).

What do you mean tragedy! It was just a birthday present for planet apes president !!! That's all ! Feels great to flip hamburgers and hip hop atop of good news...makes you feel vibrant and energized !!!

ARIZONA = UTOYA = GOVERNMENT‘S "AFTERLIFE" CASH & $$ FLASH MOB (there was no shooting in Utoya or Arizona, but tear gas and theater instead on faces of multiculturalism maniacs..your guilt or blame and shame weapon against us and our families in our own countries atop of forceful unemployment during so called "ECONOMIC CRISES" during which third world foreigners are allowed to rape, kill, and still is nothing else but fast way to early retirements for government related criminals/ terrorists...$$$ extra bonuses, and newly issued state identities while calling you a terrorists) !!! http://stateofterror.blogspot.... or http://stateofterror.wordpress...

OBAMA = STALIN = BUSH or USA = SOVIET UNION http://avsecbostjan.blogspot.c... or http://avsecbostjan.wordpress.... Whitie is fighting war on terrorism just to come home and be pronounced as terrorist...turned in Timothy, jobless, homeless ...YESSS, WE CAN...YESSS, WE CAN...GABBY OPENED HER EYES (Obaminator’s psychotic speech in Tucson = failed “Apocalypse Now“)

WAKE-UP !!! WAKE UP PEOPLE BEFORE IT GETS ALL TO LATE ON PLANET APES !!! TEARS WON'T DO YOU ANY GOOD !!! AS BUSH STATED "THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE PAID FOR"(to die ) !!

EVEN IF IRAQ WOULD HAVE BEEN WAR FOR OIL ONLY, VETERANS WOULDN'T NEVER EVER HAVE TO BE HOMELESS PEOPLE THE WAY THEY ARE AND NOR WOULD OUR PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE ALLOVER THE PLACE THE WAY THEY DO TO VERY TODAY(never ending “war on terror” story). BECAUSE EVEN IF WAR WAS FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY, MONEY SHOULD BE USED FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS AND NOT WHAT THE CASE IS OR AGAINST WHITES(to destroy us allover the world) !!! You don't really proof for 911, just put your sht together in your heads...THIS IS PLENTY ENOUGH TO HAVE O(B)SAMA INDICTED FOR CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST WHITE AMERICAN HUMANITY TOGETHER WITH HIS ZIONIST MASTERS) !!!

Don't worry O(s)bama, you have just saved USA what is lots of Dollars in your DEBT DEALS as those best of America or Navy Seals would also grew older and then you already know how it goes...DEAD & ILL = DEBT DEAL !!!

HOW MUCH FURTHER ARE WE WILLING TO GO IN ORDER TO PLEASE VERY SAME PEOPLE WHO DENY US EVEN THE RIGHT TO EXISTENCE(what is to you country without laws or lawless country in respect to your personal rights, but the one that in contrast to your denied basic human rights recognizes you extremely liable when payments are due) !!?

IS IT INDEPENDENCE THAT WE CELEBRATE OR DEPENDENCE (what are your credit card bills or alimony saying about it) !!? HOW IS YOUR DIABETES AND LOST MARRIAGES !!? FORECLOSURES AND JOB SEARCH !!? THAT IS THE QUESTION TO BE OR NOT TO BE !!! IS IT LAND OF THE FREE OR STATE OF TERROR AGAINST OWN POPULATION !!? IT IS TIME TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT COLOR ARE THE STRIPES ON OUR STAR SPANGLED BANNER !!! TIME TO DETERMINE WHOSE INDEPENDENCE/AMERICA, WE CELEBRATE TODAY(who wants to erase us and denies us the right to exist) !!! IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHOM WE ADDRESS WITH "PRESIDENT" (STOP HUMILIATING YOURSELF) !!!

VOTING POLL:

DO WE NEED MORE PROOFS TO INDICT OBAMA AND BUSH ADMINISTRATION FOR CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST WHITE HUMANITY !!?

1)NO, THEY ARE CLEARLY GUILTY AS OIL WAR NEVER EVER WAS REAL ISSUE IN GENOCIDE AGAINST WHITES. REAL ISSUE ARE FACTS OR WHAT WE WITNESS TODAY WHEN VETERANS ARE HOMELESS, JOBLESS, KILLED, ETC.

2)NO, AS 911 ALONE AS WELL AS ACTIONS IMPOSED AGAINST WHITES IN USA (as well worldwide) ARE CLEARLY INDICATING ACTS OF GENOCIDE AGAINST WHITE HUMANITY

3)YESS AS JUST YESTERDAY(for over 15 years to very yesterday), WE (news/media = vacuum world of lies) WERE TELLING YOU THAT UNEMPLOYMENT WAS AT 10% WHILE TODAY ONE IS AT 50% (HOW COME NO ONE QUESTION JOURNALISM LIKE THIS OR WHAT IS WORLD OF LIES AND DEMENTIA)!

4)I AGREE WITH FIRST TWO ANSWERS ABOVE. IT IS TIME TO PRESS CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST BOTH ADMINISTRATIONS DUE TO ACTS OF GENOCIDE AGAINST WHITE HUMANITY FOR THE SAKE(SAFETY) OF US AND OUR CHILDREN(DO NOT TURN THEM IN WHITE REFUGEES ON PLANET APES OR WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE WHEN VISITING ABOVE PAGES) !!!

Strbr
Strbr

Don't take phones into the jail.

Mandriguesmark
Mandriguesmark

they ought to take those sheriffs and tie them up and let the public beat them til almost dead!!!

Ledzepgirl
Ledzepgirl

someone is in DEEP NEED OF " ANGER MANAGEMENT" CLASSwink, wink G____E

Quincy K
Quincy K

He looks like a gangbanger.

idaman
idaman

Earlier I posted a comment about this guy deserving the beating because I figured if he wanted to be a tough guy smuggling stuff into jails, then he should act like one when he gets smashed. However, after reading Ed. Bunker's "Education of a Felon," which details the brutality of LA county Jail and the routine beat downs by officers. I had to think that if this kind of abuse has been going on for that long, there had to be innocents caught up in the abuse at some point. This guy could've been one of them. I don't know. I do know that cops are routinely brutal with inmates and probably wouldn't be if it weren't for the majesty of the law behind them. Without that, the corrupt cops are cowardly gang members themselves.

George
George

Yes, because it COULD be used to do something bad, he deserved to get the shit beat out of him before anything happened. Jaywalking is illegal and could cause a car accident, therefore anyone who breaks the law by jaywalking should get the shit beat out of them. Drinking alcohol when you are 20 years old could lead to drunk driving, which could lead to death, so all college students under 21 who are drinking should have the shit beat out of them for violating alcohol laws.

All people who smoke weed could get behind a wheel and drive and kill someone, therefore anyone who has ever smoked weed should have the shit beat out of them.

Anyone who has glass on the beach could break the glass, causing injury to others, so therefore anyone who has a glass bottle on the beach should have the shit beat out of them.

Do I understand you correctly?

George
George

Yeah, the cops sure did a good job of holding someone accountable for having a cellphone. Any time anyone disobeys any stupid, petty order, they should have the living shit beat out of them. That's what it means to be in a free country, free from unreasonable search and seizure, and free from cruel and unusual punishment.

George
George

Yeah, the cops sure did a good job of holding someone accountable for having a cellphone. Any time anyone disobeys any stupid, petty order, they should have the living shit beat out of them. That's what it means to be in a free country, free from unreasonable search and seizure, and free from cruel and unusual punishment.

George
George

Yeah, the cops sure did a good job of holding someone accountable for having a cellphone. Any time anyone disobeys any stupid, petty order, they should have the living shit beat out of them. That's what it means to be in a free country, free from unreasonable search and seizure, and free from cruel and unusual punishment.

Lucykins_87
Lucykins_87

George,

You should probably read the story correctly, HE DID NOT HAVE THE CELL PHONE. It clearly states that she had the cell phone in HER shoe! So why would he get the living shit beat out of him???

Ignorant comments from an ignorant individual!

I'm sure that if it were you in his shoes or anyone you knew YOU wouldn't feel the same way.

Hydbass111
Hydbass111

Actually YOU should read the article correctly. The story states that he forgot HIS cell phone was in HIS pocket.

Ignorant comments from an ignorant individual!

Hydbass111
Hydbass111

It was a Saturday, and Torres was on call for her job at an employment agency. She says she was afraid of being fired if she missed a call, so she tucked her cellphone into her boot and sneaked it into the visitors' lobby, despite the signs prohibiting it. Carrillo, a general laborer who helped build a stage for an Academy Awards after-party next to the El Capitan Theater, says he forgot he had a phone in his pocket.

In case you wish to check for yourself

Brenda_rv
Brenda_rv

I completely agree with you.

Cops are not above the law. They are there to "Protect and Serve!"

Yes, it was wrong to take the cell phone inside but the consequences were to severe and unreasonable.

The punishment does not meet the crime and those deputies should be punished for their own violent crime. They obviously abused their power.

George
George

Yeah, the cops sure did a good job of holding someone accountable for having a cellphone. Any time anyone disobeys any stupid, petty order, they should have the living shit beat out of them. That's what it means to be in a free country, free from unreasonable search and seizure, and free from cruel and unusual punishment.

Daphonie
Daphonie

Thats fucked up how they did that to that man you did Even have to do like that....

crimeboss
crimeboss

OK so don't break the law and go to jail. And don't voluntarily enter a jail smuggling a cell phone. Then you wont get your ass kicked by the police.

George
George

Seriously. The appropriate punishment for smuggling a cell phone into jail and visiting your family member in jail is definitely to get the shit beat out of you. Totally appropriate. Know what else is cool? When women in the Middle East get stoned to death for showing an ankle or their hair. Don't break the law and show your ankle. Then you won't get stoned to death by the police.

crimeboss
crimeboss

The worlds not perfect or fair and it never will be. I was just stating the facts. You can get mad about it but it won't change anything.

JustReplying
JustReplying

Except cops and guards aren't sharks and shouldn't be compared to them.

crimeboss
crimeboss

I think you didn't understand my comment. Let me put it another way. What I was saying is similar to this statement "Don't swim in shark infested waters if you don't want to get eaten by a shark". That doesn't mean that I think people deserve to get eaten by sharks. Just that there are things you can do to avoid being eaten by sharks.

George
George

It is a FACT this guy got the shit beat out of him. It is your OPINION that he deserved to get his ass kicked. That is not a fact. You stating "don't break the law and go to jail" is an opinion. I am free to dislike stupid, fascist opinions.

Peking_Duck_sd
Peking_Duck_sd

The local San Diego police department ans jail system are ultra-corrupt, this is no surprise really.

Do a simple Google search, there are currently SDPD officers on trial for rape, drug abuse, violence, you name.

The Truth
The Truth

Baby face my ass! this cholo had it coming to him. Who believes this guy is some great citizen out to visit his brother. Check his criminal record, time and time again these punks have attitudes and do something to make them get their butts kicked. Ask yourself how many crimes this savage has gotten away with. I don't feel bad for him.

George
George

Did you check his criminal record? What did you find? So I suppose looking like a Cholo means you deserve to get the shit beat out of you? Totally makes sense. I don't like people who have facial hair. I think they look dirty and scary. Only people who have something to hide grow facial hair. Better check their criminal records, because I don't like the way they look, therefore they must deserve to get the shit beat out of them.

Fvck Yes
Fvck Yes

In a round about way Carillo brought it on himself.

Hear me out. If you lay down with dogs then you'll get up with fleas. Look, I don't care what the ACLU says about a persons rights. Many of us, including myself, know how cops think when they confront some citizens. They can and will violate a persons civil rights. Many citizens don't know how to go through life without being a target for the police. And that applies to lawyers and L.E., too !!!

By now you think I'm whacked.

Listen, you need to read a book that will change your life. When you read this book you will want to pass it on to your kids. It is a type of life instruction manual that every parent should pass on to their children. This book will help you in the interest of humanity and self preservation. When you read it you will understand why Carillo was beat down. I'm not saying the beat down was justified, but you'll understand why he was victimized so easily.

Because he messed up long before he arrived at jail that day.

When you get this book I'd recommend starting off with chapter 5. According to this book, it's too late for Carillo and his brother. They're marked for the rest of their life. Carillo and his brother have the type of fleas that will follow them around wherever they go. The police will be picking on them for the rest of their lives. To them I say "Get used to the beat downs!"

I learned that from reading this book. Also, this book is better than dating a hot looking ACLU lawyer. Thank god an ACLU lawyer didn't write it!! Every time I read this book, and I read it like a religious zealot who reads the Bible on a regular basis, it blows my mind. Remember to start off by reading chapter 5. Here's the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Arrest-P...

BROOKLYN41
BROOKLYN41

This is a common behavior in all jails nationwide. I witnessed these atrocities during the 50s-unnecessory severe beatings of non-resisting inmates for assumed violations of very minor prison rules. I witnessed a beating of an inmate for spilling water on a marble floor tile less than 1sq. ft. the HACKS slammed his head against the tile and cracked his head open the blood from his head wound flowed down the drain with the dirty water. They then dragged him away by his legs-leaving a trail of blood-down the corridor to show their victory in front of all of us. Another time the HACKS-this time the HACKS were black-walked us into a corridor and locked the gates on each end and proceeded to severly club us, to this day I don't know why. 90% of us were in jail for very non-violent minor offenses. I'm in my 70s now and I still don't trust a cop. From what I'm reading now-things have not changed.

Fvck Yes
Fvck Yes

I live in San Diego. I once heard an SD inmate describe the same sort of thing. I have no way of knowing if what he reported was true or not. I wonder how the ACLU rates the San Diego County Jail. I don't care how many cops come here to try and justify their actions, for what is being reported it sounds like the L.A. County jail may have some bad things going on. I said "may". Doesn't the jail have security tapes a court could review? I'm sure they do. Surveillance cameras are everywhere. And I'd like to thank LA Weekly for using DISQUS !! Now lets see those surveillance tapes....

Fastlane4205
Fastlane4205

wait wait wait wait....

are u guys saying Jail is a bad place to be??

and if i do something wrong or talk trash to someone... i might... be accountable for my actions? shucks

Jamie23
Jamie23

I think your missing the point dumbass

Just a guy
Just a guy

This is the most biased piece of irresponsible journalism I have ever read.. For this author to have the audacidy to use the word to describe this person as "baby faced" is a ploy to garner sympathy and favor to the aritcle.

I know a ton of baby faced crooks and general bad guys. I wasnt there but I have been there in the past and I know that what these deputies did were correct in their actions... especially in light of all the negative press they have already received....

Mr Vogel.... Quit piling on and get both sides of the story..... If you get robbed, and God forbid I hope you dont.... Are you going to call that baby faced guy or are you going to call a cop... Face it.... They work behind bars with the worst LA has to offer... Force and contact is inevitable and they are not payed to lose.... God Bless the LA County Sheriff

 
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