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Blondeeb52 04/27/2012 7:07:00 AM
Yeah, NO SHIT!!
The cop gets spat on, and a hit "to the CHEST??" RIGHT! A place where you can't prove he was full of crap! And look what they gave back, for such horrid (NOT!) injuries.
BRUTALITY is BULL CRAP! They have NO EXCUSE! Restrain, THEN STOP! THAT'S THE LAW!!!
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Blondeeb52 04/27/2012 7:01:00 AM
You need a wake up if you believe that bunk! The cops start beating people, and we get called the THUGS!!! I'll have to put that in our notes... being a plastic surgeon, or a dentist... makes us thugs if we struggle to avoid being beaten.
It doesnt matter if the man is a thug... he has rights as well!
And what do tatoos have to do with anything?
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Blondeeb52 04/27/2012 6:53:00 AM
PS... there are a handful of cops that do their job, to make the world a better place. BUT, YOU'RE ONLY as GOOD, as YOUR WEAKEST LINK!!!
TOO MANY of you don't stand up to do the right thing, regarding police brutality.... THAT makes YOU, PART OF THE PROBLEM!! AN ACCOMPLICE!!! Which makes YOU just as guilty. You know thats how YOU SEE IT!
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Blondeeb52 04/27/2012 6:43:00 AM
Im soooooo sick and tired of ALL POLICE/SHERIFF DEPT ASSHOLES "GETTING AWAY WITH ABUSE, MURDER, AND LYING THEIR ASSES OFF!!!!
There are LAWS!!!! THEY apply to EVERYONE!!!!! No exceptions!!! No excuses!!! Im sick of the hypocrits DOUBLE STANDARDS!!!!
STOP THEM!!!!!! GET SOME COURAGE PEOPLE!!! Stand up and complain!
My son was HOG TIED, AND KNEELED ON, by TWO SHERIFFS DEPUTIES, a total ofmore than OVER 400 LBS!!! for OVER 20 MINUTES!!! A U.S. MARINE!!! Weighing a LEAN/SKINNY aprox. 170 lbs
This 26 year old had been home, after FIVE YEARS and THREE TOURS, for a short 4 months. He was JUMPED FROM BEHIND (CHICKEN SHITS!) because he had a torn shirt (front.. 8-10" tear) and a crunched cowboy hat (WOW boys!!! It was a freaking RODEO!!! dumb asses! And the boy was with his PARENTS! BOTH parents were injured (recent double mastectomy, for breast cancer; and the Dad was in a sling from having shoulder surgery!!
BOTH parents, AND a 23 year old girl, who spends ALL of her time working with handicapped children and wounded vets, with theraputic horse riding, were shoved, hit, KNOCKED DOWN! and harmed; for NO REASON!!!
They had been called to a fight, which was over 200 yards behind the family!!! They never went to the fight theyd been called to. EIGHT sheriffs deputies and RESERVISTS spent OVER 40 MINUTES, KNOCKING THE HELL OUT OF THE BOY (slamming his face down over and over again, into the PAVEMENT! They broke his nose, ground off his forehead, arms, shoulders, and ALMOST suffocated!!!) A US MARINE, TAUGHT TO FIGHT, did NOT EVER offer resistance! His ONLY struggle was to turn his head to gasp for air!!! They broke his nose for it. He was TAZED over 13 times!! 11 of those WHILE FACE DOWN and SAT/KNEELED ON, ON THE GROUND.
A U.S. MARINE!!!!! BEATEN BY HIS OWN COUNTYMEN!!!!
MAKE those pansy ass cops spend a MINIMUM of 4 years in the REAL SERVICE!!! THE ARMED FORCES. MAKE THEM go spend all their energy, ANGER
AND ATTITUDE, FIGHTING MEN that AREN'T HOG TIED! AND LAYING DOWN on their FACES!!! See if THEY can survive!!!!
Our country is becoming full of a bunch of pansies... I'm ashamed!
For ALL of OUR HONORABLE, LOYAL SOLDIERS and men.... HELP US!!!
PROTECT US.... AGAINST THREATS... BOTH foreign AND DOMESTIC!!!!
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MIKELELEY 04/03/2012 4:24:00 AM
SEEM LIKE U HAVE SO MUCH INFO REGARDING CARRILLO OR YOU ARE ASSOCIATED TO SHERIFF DEPUTIES. ONE UNARMED MAN AGAINST THREE DEPUTIES???? GIVE ME A BREAK, LOOK AT HIS PICTURE!! THIS IS ONE OF SO MANY UNJUSTIFIED BRUTALITIES WHICH MADE FBI TO INVESTIGATE ENTIRE AGENCY
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Dank21 03/13/2012 4:39:00 AM
Stupid fucken sheriffs, i hope they all go to hell for what they do. Not all of them tho. Just the ones that abuse there power, and the ones that are straight up dicks!!!
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Hydbass111 02/12/2012 5:07:00 PM
It was a Saturday, and Torres was on call for her job at an employment agency. She says she was afraid of being fired if she missed a call, so she tucked her cellphone into her boot and sneaked it into the visitors' lobby, despite the signs prohibiting it. Carrillo, a general laborer who helped build a stage for an Academy Awards after-party next to the El Capitan Theater, says he forgot he had a phone in his pocket.
In case you wish to check for yourself
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Hydbass111 02/12/2012 5:05:00 PM
Actually YOU should read the article correctly. The story states that he forgot HIS cell phone was in HIS pocket.
Ignorant comments from an ignorant individual!
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10/28/2011 3:57:00 AM
Fascinating
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USABeachGirl 10/23/2011 11:55:00 AM
USABeachGirl
USABeachGirl
Correction Carrillo needs to be in Jail after he spit punched elbow Deputies the Deputies are not at fault.
The person ar fault is Carillo punching hitting spitting on. Carrllio is not a Victim but a CRIMINAL.
Instead of acting like a human being acts like an Animanl my opinion Carrillo Violent Brother in jail confeased weapons he Carrillo punched a Deputy Newpapers are not telling how Carrillo assault Deputies.
Carrillo tried to bolt from the room and encountered another deputy, whom Carrillo punched in the chest. Carrillo punched and kicked at the deputies as they struggled to control him.
He is one violnet man Carrillo
Carrillo spat a mixture of spray, saliva and blood at one of the deputies. Three deputies were taken to a hospital for treatment, including hepatitis vaccinations.
Stop the Lies on the Depuites he is a man who is Violent acting like a Thug now is crying poor me look what happend the truth is CARRLLO eblow one Deputy bolted out of the room punched another Deputy in the chest INNOCENT MEN DO NOT ACT LIKE THIS.
Carrilo is a Hoodlum Assaulting Deputies CARRILLO needs stop lying and go to JAIL.
Set up kicks punched at the Depuites spat this ia like an animal my opiion he himself casues himself to fall Torrese takes his picture give me a break instead of being a man he is acting like a thug take off the shirt show us the tattos.
USABeachGirl
USABeachGirl.
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USABeachGirl 10/23/2011 11:13:00 AM
USABeachGirl
Story should read Carrillo needs to be arrested in jail Carrillo assult on Deputies hit, punched hit chest spit on by Carillo needs to be in jail.
Carrillo for assault spitting is Assault. Torres now lies about her statemet give me a break cry me a River.
Both went to that jail looking for trouble why did Torres have a camera to take his picture he fell after he punched hit in the chest the Deputy then acting like and animal. set up for money.
My opinion
Carrillo spat a mixture of spray, saliva and blood at one of the deputies. Three deputies were taken to a hospital for treatment, including hepatitis vaccinations.
My opinion ACLU stop the lies Leave Sheriff Baca alone Leave his Depuites alone my opinion your defending the thug who hit spit punched Depuites he is a Criminal. ACLU your Pathetic.
God Bless you Sheriff Baca, God Bless you Depuites, God help the Depuites workig in HELL LA jail abused spit on puched cussed at what kind of world do we live in???????????????
ACLU (My OPINION) pick on someoe else leave Sheriff Baca alone ACLU YOU resign all you do is start trouble my opinion.
USABeachGirl
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USABeachGirl 10/23/2011 10:59:00 AM
USABeachGirl
Carrillo's girlfriend told deputies after the incident that her boyfriend had been angry and aggressive over his brother's recent arrest for fighting with sheriff's deputies. She says now that she was coerced.
No one told her to say the above now she is lying my opinion Carillo and Torres went to that jail violent his
Brother was in jail for concealed weapons.
They read the sign no cell phones so they Carillo hid his cell phone in his pocket Torres tells
Depuites Carillo has a cell phone CARRILLO punched kicked hit the Depuites.
Carrillo and Torres are the Trouble makes not the Victims why did the Depuites have to go to the hospitl??????
Carrillo tried to bolt from the room and encountered another deputy, whom Carrillo punched in the chest. Carrillo punched and kicked at the deputies as they struggled to control him.
Carrillo spat a mixture of spray, saliva and blood at one of the deputies. Three deputies were taken to a hospital for treatment, including hepatitis vaccinations.
Abuse on the Depuites has to stop Carrillo shoud be arrested spitting on someone is Assault bashing Sheriff Baca and the Deputies is wrong Carrillo Torres went to HELL LA jail looking for trouble.
Now he is suing nice family NOT hits, spits on Depuites punches Deputy Brother concealed weapons Torres now lies filling a false police report is illegal. These lawsuits are an attempt at disgruanted people family in jail mad so they lie as Retalation. ( My Opinion My Thouhgts)
USABeachGirl
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USABeachGirl 10/16/2011 2:24:00 PM
USABeachGirl
Story should read Carrillo sneaks cell phone in mouths off makes Threat to Deputy now who is to blame??
Put the blame where it should be on Carrillo he is the one creating all the prooblems cell phone mouths off (he may my own opinion) have lunged and tried to hit the Deputy????
(My Opinion)
I find that Carrillo mouths off to the Depuites him and his Girlfriend break the rules with cell phones now the Depuites get the blame give me a break.
Carrillos own words If I wern't in these hand cuffs to the Depuites to me it is a threat. Who does he think he is threatening a Deputy?
I am sick of Depuites being Abuse and sick of all these cry babies stories bottom line (my opinion) STAY OUT OF JAIL STOP BREAKING THE LAW STOP ABUSING SHEIRFF BACA AND THE DEPUTIES. STOP THE LIES
I am so sick of everyone bashing Sheriff Baca, Depuites and the Sheriff Dept it makes me sick now all of a sudden the Criminals are acting like victims.
Give me a break please he post vists his Brother in jail for concelled weapons he brings a cell phone which he knew Jail did not allow he mouths off appreas to have Threaten Depuites his words. ( My opinion I think he injured himself)
Fact is Depuites are Abused in Jail by the Criminals (my own opinion) now it apprears my by Carrllio and his mouth.
A 5 year old would read the sign and not bring the cell phone in (my thougths my opinion) both Carrillio & GF mad and tried to start trouble who does not know they have their cell phone on them?/?????????????
Sheriff Lee Baca a good man a kind man and a man of Compassion, Lt Mc, Depuites, Sheriff Personal are all good people.
Stop Bashing Sheirff Baca, His Depuites, Sheirffs Dept men are in jail for being Criminals their stories are a joke.
Fact Depuites are cussed at, threatened, Urinated on bullied terrorized by Jail inmates and they have to take it.
If his Carrillos Brother his words did not have a gun was not in jail concealed weapon ( post) I think Carrillo was aready mad so him and his GF (My thoughts my opinion)
Deliberlity brought the Cell phones in knowing the sign said no cell phone and he Carrillo my opinion mad brother in jail mouthed off. My opinion.
Cry me a river we were not there how do we know he did not try and hit the Deputy cause his own injuries.
People this Abuse of Sheriff Baca and Our Deputies must stop now, People do not go to jail for being soooooooooooooooooo good they are Criminals.
Carrillo admits that he mouthed off, telling the Deputy, "If I weren't in these handcuffs, it'd be a different situation and I wouldn't let myself get thrown around like this."
God Bless you Sheriff Baca, God Bless you Lt Mc K, God Bless Deputies God Bless the Sheriff Dept. I stay behind you 400% I know as a Victim of Domestic Violence all Deputies who came to my home were kind to both of us.
USABeachGirl
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10/14/2011 12:16:00 AM
if he hit a cop then the cop should have pictures showing his bruises he/she should have hospital reports stating the same. if the jails start suspending these guards without pay. this kinda of crap wouldnt happen. not to mention the fact that the beatings amount to assault which is a crime. so that makes them criminals themselves
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09/29/2011 7:41:00 AM
By the way (one more thing I forgot). Carillo and his girlfriend are the people who spawn rules and regulations for bullshit. Now every visitor will be treated to full and thorough searches because of selfish idiots like them. not that I necessarily care about visiting a jail, but it bleeds into daily life, doesn't i? We have all kinds of stupid laws to make up for the stupid people. Stupid regulations, stupid inspections, stupid hold ups because of selfish stupid people like these.
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09/29/2011 7:38:00 AM
I shoulddn't have said "they" were beaten. It was just the boyfriend. But still, the girlfriend should be charged for thinking the world revolves around her. Or perhaps the boyfriend for thinking the world revolved around him for pressuring his g/f to go to visit a jail when she might get a call to work.
They're both losers.
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09/29/2011 7:36:00 AM
I think Carillo and his girlfriend BOTH should have been charged with something. FOLLOW FUCKING DIRECTIONS! They are for the safety of you, the inmates and the staff. I'm sick and tired of people "forgetting" about their cell phones and other personal property that THEY ALONE are in control of.
But the beatings, no. In fact, I'm disappointed they were beaten because now these morons are "heros".
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09/04/2011 5:11:00 AM
I am not finding any sympathy for his story.
It appears Carrillo was up to no good, and a mouthpiece to boot. (pun intended)
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liberals are hypocrites 09/01/2011 12:00:00 AM
carrillo? GUILTY!!!
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Jrode27 08/13/2011 5:20:00 AM
The sherrifs unwillingness to have the report publisized just shows you how bad the violence is from our deputy sherriffs. It's a shame that the general public is afraid of the police. They abuse their authority without fear of punishment. And the ACLU acts as if their hands are tied. I wish there were someone with the courage to do something about this growing problem. Like the cops on PAID leave for beating that man to death. That many officers can't put cuffs on 1 unarmed man is outrageous. Either they are trained wrong or they are LIARS and criminas themselves.
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07/28/2011 2:03:00 PM
What can you say, Cons like to Congregate....But they call it Conspiracy though!
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07/28/2011 1:54:00 PM
What else can you say, Cons like to Congregate. They call it Conspiracy though!
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JustReplying 07/28/2011 1:02:00 PM
Seriously? Your basically promoting an attitude of 'look the other way'. Ok, fine, I get it; You want to protect your ass and your ass alone. Fine. Just don't expect all of us Americans to just sit back and except the crap that's being allowed to continue in our *ahem* Justice System.
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JustReplying 07/28/2011 12:57:00 PM
You have a serious attitude problem and I'm ashamed of the words you use to describe your fellow citizens. If you are a representative of the police force, then we should all be ashamed that this is allowed in the U.S.
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JustReplying 07/28/2011 12:54:00 PM
I'm sure your past job hasn't tainted your opinion any....Nah. How many of the people you filed past or filed charges on everyday in the 'line of duty', did you actually talk to? Your job was just a job right? I'm sure the daily comments of other cops every single day, complaining about this and that and any bad day could be easily attributed to all those damned criminals right? I have found one thing to be absolutely one hundred percent true. I could live next door to a former cop and a former felon, both would be appear to be exactly the same. The only one of the two that has learned gratitude, would be the felon.
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JustReplying 07/28/2011 12:42:00 PM
Except cops and guards aren't sharks and shouldn't be compared to them.
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Strbr 07/26/2011 11:24:00 PM
Don't take phones into the jail.
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Mandriguesmark 07/23/2011 10:23:00 PM
they ought to take those sheriffs and tie them up and let the public beat them til almost dead!!!
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Ledzepgirl 07/19/2011 3:57:00 AM
someone is in DEEP NEED OF " ANGER MANAGEMENT" CLASS
wink, wink G____E
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Brenda_rv 07/12/2011 6:27:00 PM
I completely agree with you.
Cops are not above the law. They are there to "Protect and Serve!"
Yes, it was wrong to take the cell phone inside but the consequences were to severe and unreasonable.
The punishment does not meet the crime and those deputies should be punished for their own violent crime. They obviously abused their power.
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Lucykins_87 07/12/2011 6:22:00 PM
George,
You should probably read the story correctly, HE DID NOT HAVE THE CELL PHONE. It clearly states that she had the cell phone in HER shoe! So why would he get the living shit beat out of him???
Ignorant comments from an ignorant individual!
I'm sure that if it were you in his shoes or anyone you knew YOU wouldn't feel the same way.
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Daphonie 06/30/2011 8:47:00 PM
Thats fucked up how they did that to that man you did Even have to do like that....
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crimeboss 06/30/2011 2:16:00 AM
I think you didn't understand my comment. Let me put it another way. What I was saying is similar to this statement "Don't swim in shark infested waters if you don't want to get eaten by a shark". That doesn't mean that I think people deserve to get eaten by sharks. Just that there are things you can do to avoid being eaten by sharks.
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Quincy K 06/29/2011 11:47:00 PM
He looks like a gangbanger.
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06/27/2011 7:29:00 PM
It is a FACT this guy got the shit beat out of him. It is your OPINION that he deserved to get his ass kicked. That is not a fact. You stating "don't break the law and go to jail" is an opinion. I am free to dislike stupid, fascist opinions.
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06/27/2011 6:54:00 PM
Earlier I posted a comment about this guy deserving the beating because I figured if he wanted to be a tough guy smuggling stuff into jails, then he should act like one when he gets smashed. However, after reading Ed. Bunker's "Education of a Felon," which details the brutality of LA county Jail and the routine beat downs by officers. I had to think that if this kind of abuse has been going on for that long, there had to be innocents caught up in the abuse at some point. This guy could've been one of them. I don't know. I do know that cops are routinely brutal with inmates and probably wouldn't be if it weren't for the majesty of the law behind them. Without that, the corrupt cops are cowardly gang members themselves.
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crimeboss 06/25/2011 2:03:00 AM
The worlds not perfect or fair and it never will be. I was just stating the facts. You can get mad about it but it won't change anything.
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06/24/2011 10:13:00 PM
Yes, because it COULD be used to do something bad, he deserved to get the shit beat out of him before anything happened. Jaywalking is illegal and could cause a car accident, therefore anyone who breaks the law by jaywalking should get the shit beat out of them. Drinking alcohol when you are 20 years old could lead to drunk driving, which could lead to death, so all college students under 21 who are drinking should have the shit beat out of them for violating alcohol laws.
All people who smoke weed could get behind a wheel and drive and kill someone, therefore anyone who has ever smoked weed should have the shit beat out of them.
Anyone who has glass on the beach could break the glass, causing injury to others, so therefore anyone who has a glass bottle on the beach should have the shit beat out of them.
Do I understand you correctly?
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06/24/2011 10:10:00 PM
Yes, because it COULD be used to do something bad, he deserved to get the shit beat out of him before anything happened. Jaywalking is illegal and could cause a car accident, therefore anyone who breaks the law by jaywalking should get the shit beat out of them. Drinking alcohol when you are 20 years old could lead to drunk driving, which could lead to death, so all college students under 21 who are drinking should have the shit beat out of them for violating alcohol laws.
All people who smoke weed could get behind a wheel and drive and kill someone, therefore anyone who has ever smoked weed should have the shit beat out of them.
Anyone who has glass on the beach could break the glass, causing injury to others, so therefore anyone who has a glass bottle on the beach should have the shit beat out of them.
Do I understand you correctly?
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06/24/2011 10:05:00 PM
Yeah, the cops sure did a good job of holding someone accountable for having a cellphone. Any time anyone disobeys any stupid, petty order, they should have the living shit beat out of them. That's what it means to be in a free country, free from unreasonable search and seizure, and free from cruel and unusual punishment.
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06/24/2011 10:04:00 PM
Yeah, the cops sure did a good job of holding someone accountable for having a cellphone. Any time anyone disobeys any stupid, petty order, they should have the living shit beat out of them. That's what it means to be in a free country, free from unreasonable search and seizure, and free from cruel and unusual punishment.
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06/24/2011 10:01:00 PM
Did you check his criminal record? What did you find? So I suppose looking like a Cholo means you deserve to get the shit beat out of you? Totally makes sense. I don't like people who have facial hair. I think they look dirty and scary. Only people who have something to hide grow facial hair. Better check their criminal records, because I don't like the way they look, therefore they must deserve to get the shit beat out of them.
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06/24/2011 9:58:00 PM
Seriously. The appropriate punishment for smuggling a cell phone into jail and visiting your family member in jail is definitely to get the shit beat out of you. Totally appropriate. Know what else is cool? When women in the Middle East get stoned to death for showing an ankle or their hair. Don't break the law and show your ankle. Then you won't get stoned to death by the police.
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crimeboss 06/17/2011 1:36:00 AM
OK so don't break the law and go to jail. And don't voluntarily enter a jail smuggling a cell phone. Then you wont get your ass kicked by the police.
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06/15/2011 7:18:00 PM
The local San Diego police department ans jail system are ultra-corrupt, this is no surprise really.
Do a simple Google search, there are currently SDPD officers on trial for rape, drug abuse, violence, you name.
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The Truth 06/14/2011 9:02:00 PM
Baby face my ass! this cholo had it coming to him. Who believes this guy is some great citizen out to visit his brother. Check his criminal record, time and time again these punks have attitudes and do something to make them get their butts kicked. Ask yourself how many crimes this savage has gotten away with. I don't feel bad for him.
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06/14/2011 4:42:00 AM
Yes and no. Carillo may have had it coming but not in savage fashion. Then again I wasn't there and if Carillo wouldn't shut up well then who knows. None of us were there. There are two sides to every story. It may depend on how big a jerk you are / Carillo was. Christ sake Common Sense 101 is that you're supposed to "Sir the cops out". Be respectful and call them sir.
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06/14/2011 4:26:00 AM
Which reminds me I was once a total jerk to the cops in San Luis Obispo. I was drunk. I was arrested. I felt the complainant lied, which they did. I called the cops every dirty name in the book. The next day when I was sober... the things they said I said while drunk. I believed them! I'm a good guy. So the next day you bet I was ashamed. I was big in size. I was a hard core weight lifter. But they never laid a finger on me. I wonder why. Maybe cause SLO crime-wise compared to LA is way tame almost boring? I surmise the cops in L.A. are overrun day after day with wise guys talking smack like Carillo did. If the SLO police are reading this I want to thank them for being kind. Cause ya know what, I deserved a good smack for what I said to them while in the back seat of the police car. A smack to the face can hurt. My girl once smacked me with all her might and OUCH it stung bad.
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06/14/2011 4:21:00 AM
LOL
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06/14/2011 4:20:00 AM
Can't whip up a class-action lawsuit without evidence. And if you have evidence better hope your lawyer and the judge considers it compelling evidence or it'll never go to trial.
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06/14/2011 4:18:00 AM
"jails are for the dregs of society"
>>>>True but there are innocent people in jail and if those who are innocent act well behaved then they should not have their civil rights violated while awaiting trial.
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06/14/2011 4:07:00 AM
"I have an idea....don't be a criminal."
>>>I agree, to a point. Yes, try and be a lawful citizen. But if you're defending yourself against an attacker and there are witnesses you will go to county jail for engaging in mutual combat. At that point, you, like the person who decided to attack you, is engaged in an alleged criminal activity. The only other alternative is to lie on the ground, cover your head while you get beat up and hope you're not killed or injured in the process. The law is tricky. Read "Arrest Proof Yourself", it's an amazing book.
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06/14/2011 3:58:00 AM
"Worthless P O S all of them!"
>>>Using a broad-sweeping generalization in most cases in life is never smart. It is in fact prejudicial.
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06/14/2011 3:57:00 AM
Mexican gangs prey on children as they come and go to school.
Mexican gangs recruit children who are 10, 11, 12 years old.
The blueprint is the same for African-American gangs.
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06/14/2011 3:54:00 AM
Hell no, I don't waste my time voting anymore. Both parties are no good. And besides, there's a very fine line between having convictions and unconditional love. And both sides are unconditional lovers. UL is good for dogs, cats, motorcycles and ice cream. Applying UL to a human you don't know on a personal basis is insane !!!
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06/14/2011 3:50:00 AM
I already took action. I read and re-read a book titled Arrest Proof Yourself. And I implemented a plan: When I see a cop I don't make eye contact. And then I keep going (when on foot as I tend to walk and bike around San Diego a lot). Sometimes it helps to strike up a long-term friendship with a cop but man i tell ya i don't think that'll ever happen to me.
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06/14/2011 3:44:00 AM
I agree too. Though I am keeping in mind there are some bad cops out there that need coaching, counseling and an attitude adjustment.
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06/14/2011 3:42:00 AM
I took "go along with the program" to mean to stay legal and respectful of current law. And if the law says "NO CELL PHONES ALLOWED IN THE WAITING ROOM" then they broke the law. Also, his brother was in jail for breaking the law - it's best to try and do everything you can to stay out of the system and that includes not getting arrested. Read the book "Arrest Proof Yourself" before you speak up and you'll understand. It was not written by an ACLU lawyer thank god. It was written by a top cop who scored high marks for all the busts he made. He then went on to become a criminal defense attorney. Awesome book.
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06/14/2011 3:37:00 AM
Perhaps Carillo and his girl didn't know about the glass partition.
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06/14/2011 3:37:00 AM
"My suggestion is go along with the program or, stay home.."
>>>Yep, or in other words if you lay down with a dog you'll get up with fleas
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06/14/2011 3:35:00 AM
Oh yeah, I"m from SD. Do the sheriff's there swing away and break bones there without fear of legal retribution?
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06/14/2011 3:25:00 AM
"What are some positive ways to turn this around?"
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06/14/2011 3:22:00 AM
Yep, I totally agree.
AS an aside, I got into street photography back in '06. I shoot everything, or I used to, anyway, including cops.
After reading a great book called "Arrest Proof Yourself" I now never point a camera at a local cop. Call me chicken but I'm not in a gang that has my back. A gang like the ACLU, a gang like the Marines, or a gang like the District Attorney's office. I'm a solo flyer so when I see cops with my camera in hand I go the other way.
When I have children my kids will be required to read that book on a regular basis. Especially chapter 5.
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06/14/2011 3:17:00 AM
Nice viewpoint, Exodus, I agree
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06/14/2011 3:01:00 AM
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06/14/2011 3:00:00 AM
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06/14/2011 3:00:00 AM
In a round about way Carillo brought it on himself.
Hear me out. If you lay down with dogs then you'll get up with fleas. Look, I don't care what the ACLU says about a persons rights. Many of us, including myself, know how cops think when they confront some citizens. They can and will violate a persons civil rights. Many citizens don't know how to go through life without being a target for the police. And that applies to lawyers and L.E., too !!!
By now you think I'm whacked.
Listen, you need to read a book that will change your life. When you read this book you will want to pass it on to your kids. It is a type of life instruction manual that every parent should pass on to their children. This book will help you in the interest of humanity and self preservation. When you read it you will understand why Carillo was beat down. I'm not saying the beat down was justified, but you'll understand why he was victimized so easily.
Because he messed up long before he arrived at jail that day.
When you get this book I'd recommend starting off with chapter 5. According to this book, it's too late for Carillo and his brother. They're marked for the rest of their life. Carillo and his brother have the type of fleas that will follow them around wherever they go. The police will be picking on them for the rest of their lives. To them I say "Get used to the beat downs!"
I learned that from reading this book. Also, this book is better than dating a hot looking ACLU lawyer. Thank god an ACLU lawyer didn't write it!! Every time I read this book, and I read it like a religious zealot who reads the Bible on a regular basis, it blows my mind. Remember to start off by reading chapter 5. Here's the book:
http://www.amazon.com/Arrest-Proof-Yourself-Ex-Cop-Reveals-Arrested/dp/1556526377?tag=duckduckgo-d-20
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06/14/2011 2:38:00 AM
I live in San Diego. I once heard an SD inmate describe the same sort of thing. I have no way of knowing if what he reported was true or not. I wonder how the ACLU rates the San Diego County Jail. I don't care how many cops come here to try and justify their actions, for what is being reported it sounds like the L.A. County jail may have some bad things going on. I said "may". Doesn't the jail have security tapes a court could review? I'm sure they do. Surveillance cameras are everywhere. And I'd like to thank LA Weekly for using DISQUS !! Now lets see those surveillance tapes....
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Jamie23 06/11/2011 6:37:00 PM
I think your missing the point dumbass
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Jamie23 06/11/2011 6:37:00 PM
I think your missing the point dumbass
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06/08/2011 5:48:00 AM
This is a common behavior in all jails nationwide. I witnessed these atrocities during the 50s-unnecessory severe beatings of non-resisting inmates for assumed violations of very minor prison rules. I witnessed a beating of an inmate for spilling water on a marble floor tile less than 1sq. ft. the HACKS slammed his head against the tile and cracked his head open the blood from his head wound flowed down the drain with the dirty water. They then dragged him away by his legs-leaving a trail of blood-down the corridor to show their victory in front of all of us. Another time the HACKS-this time the HACKS were black-walked us into a corridor and locked the gates on each end and proceeded to severly club us, to this day I don't know why. 90% of us were in jail for very non-violent minor offenses. I'm in my 70s now and I still don't trust a cop. From what I'm reading now-things have not changed.
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Fastlane4205 06/07/2011 8:46:00 AM
wait wait wait wait....
are u guys saying Jail is a bad place to be??
and if i do something wrong or talk trash to someone... i might... be accountable for my actions? shucks
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1017 06/07/2011 2:16:00 AM
Hope rehab is working out for you
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Just a guy 06/07/2011 1:27:00 AM
This is the most biased piece of irresponsible journalism I have ever read.. For this author to have the audacidy to use the word to describe this person as "baby faced" is a ploy to garner sympathy and favor to the aritcle.
I know a ton of baby faced crooks and general bad guys. I wasnt there but I have been there in the past and I know that what these deputies did were correct in their actions... especially in light of all the negative press they have already received....
Mr Vogel.... Quit piling on and get both sides of the story..... If you get robbed, and God forbid I hope you dont.... Are you going to call that baby faced guy or are you going to call a cop... Face it.... They work behind bars with the worst LA has to offer... Force and contact is inevitable and they are not payed to lose.... God Bless the LA County Sheriff
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Wally 06/05/2011 10:41:00 PM
How does that justify severely beating the man? These police are as scary as any street gang and have no respect for the rules they're paid to enforce. Deputies in jail do deplorable things to people and its almost never necessary. When I was in Orange County jail for some ticket that got lost in the system then went to warrant, there was a Hispanic man probably barely 18 sitting on the bathroom partition, the deputy asked him to get down but the youth was drunk and didn't understand. The next time the deputy came by he grabbed him pulled him out of the room and the next time I saw him he was black and blue from head to toe. I asked him what happened and he said that 4 of them took him on a elevator ride and beat the crap out of him. These Sheriffs are just plain twisted and disturbed and not the quality of people that should be trusted with our safety.
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Noemail 06/05/2011 1:32:00 AM
A friend of mine was out to dinner with his wife and child celebrating his birthday. He is not someone who drinks on a regular basis, and was intoxicated easily. On their way home while stopped at a red light, he witnessed officers harassing a group of young kids and yelled at the officers to ease up, they were kids. Before they could reach the next light they quickly pulled over by two patrol cars and my friend was ordered out of the vehicle. His wife was ordered to leave or they were going to call child protective services, and that her husband would be released after he sobered up. Fearful,she complied. Serveral phone calls to the station revealed there was no record of an arrest. Her husband arrived home hours later after being severely beaten by the officers who called more officers to join the beating. The officers took him a school campus after hours, where they unlocked the gates and beat him until he begged for them to stop. A female officer hit him repeatedly across the face with her baton. Once they were satisfied he was allowed to walk home. He never reported the incident because there were no witnesses to tell his side of the story and fear of those who are supposed to protect us. He felt that he was not going to leave the school alive and that this was not the first time this happened. He heard the officers radio for other officers to come join them. All they said was, "we got one at the school."
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Clean and Sober 06/05/2011 12:56:00 AM
I was arrested to do my time for my DUI I messed up and i was paying the consequences of my actions. I was advised by inmitaes to get a job while there so I did, while cleaning a cell an officer got mad at me because the metal door closed down she blame me though I was cleaning the showers it happen again and she turn to me And ask me if "I wanted to fight her or what" I was so afraid of this deputy i just turn around this was a female deputy by the way. On my way to lynwood from downtown everyone was talking loud i did not hear the officer to quiet though i apoligize to him he in return had them chuckle me my feet and my waist and put me in a cage on the bus, once at lynwood i thought it was over and for no reason at all i guess the officer In LA told them something and left me sitting there with out process for about two hours i did not say anything in fear i closed my eyes and meditated the entire time till they finally sent me to my sell. I know that one of the females told me in there that in there I had no Legal rights what so ever. I can honestly say while inthere for those few days i trusted my life more in the hands of the other inmates whom had a long criminal background than this female deputies.
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06/01/2011 8:02:00 PM
Give it a break dude! You're cred as an ex-con isn't worth the time you used to write the above crap you're whining about. With all the problems in this Country these days, some sh-t bird in the LA Co. Jail is pretty far down on my list of meaningful interventions! Further, As anyone with a brain would conclude, you must have been a deserving bad-a-s to get sent to Chino in the first place. They don't send choir boys there. Whatever you did, someone in the system decided it wasn't a Country Club offense. And what about all your previous crimes you committed and got away with, before finally getting caught? Are you trying to imply you were stupid enough to get caught the very first time you crossed the law? Ya, ..... BS! On top of that, Drug Offenders (Dealers and Distributors) do belong in jail. Selling drugs is a violent offense because it ruins peoples lives, and many times forces them into criminal activity to feed their addiction. Further, Drug Cartels and some dealers don;t care who they kill in the process of getting those drugs onto the streets of our Country. The Desert is full of hacked up and burned bodies. So pack up your BS and feed it to some stupid kid who doesn't care or know any better! By the way, I am an Ex-Cop! Did it for 5 1/2 years after returning from Nam, and before returning to College. So, I've seen it and heard it all!
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Srinvec 06/01/2011 4:12:00 PM
The question to ask is: while there are hundreds of visitors who go through the facilties without any fanfare, why was Mr. Carrillo being singled out?
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06/01/2011 1:15:00 PM
Boo Hoo! You bed-wetters are all alike! What's the old axiom? Oh ya.... "Don't do the Crime, if you can't do the time" ! Jails & Prisons weren't meant to be Resorts or Country Clubs....Man up! You're bad choices in life got you there, not society, and society owes you nothing! Did I even make any remarks relating to violence in Prison, or Prison oversight in my posting? No! This was an entirely different issue. These two bangers got caught smuggling in phones, and the one is whining about being assaulted by guards. Like I said before, there are cameras everywhere in jails, and in the end, we'll see what we'll see! If this little piece of sh-t started this brawl, he got what he deserved! You on the other hand, are the one that didn't read the article, because it had nothing to do about existing inmates! You instead have tried to turn the whole issue into a platform to go off on how "poor prisoners" are being mistreated by the LA County Jail System.
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Anon Xcon 06/01/2011 11:26:00 AM
Hey, moron. Maybe you'd believe those of us who have actually been there in County and seen these kind of abuses regularly. Just like Rodney King's beating by the LAPD, this is not a fluke or a few bad apples on the force. It's LASD policy. Pure and simple.
You don't even know the half of it. This is just what they choose to show us. Having been inside, I can tell you, it's much much worse. If it was your brother, your sister or your son in jail, you'd be singing a different song.
LASD has become a culture of abuse, brutality and corruption, with no oversight. They'll go as far as they want to – and we get to pay for it. How do we stop the worst gang in L.A. when they're all wearing badges?
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Anon Xcon 06/01/2011 11:13:00 AM
Djingle, do your parents know you're doing this stuff online? You're gonna be grounded again.
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Anon Xcon 06/01/2011 11:11:00 AM
Stoopless, you should turn off the computer, finish your homework and get back to your Nintendo. Mom's going to be home soon and you'll be sooo busted!
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Anon Xcon 06/01/2011 9:18:00 AM
Paco Loco: Regarding smuggling phones into jail (part 2):
They have these amazing devices in the day rooms of most jail pods which enable inmates to call outside. They're called "pay phones". In jail. I used one to call my family and my attorney from jail. I saw other inmates using the "pay phones" too. LA County Jail actually sells phone cards to inmates thru the commissary so inmates can make calls on these phones. We even made collect calls, when the deputies let us use the phones at all.
Your ignorance and misinformation is staggering. If someone wants to run a crime ring from jail, there are many ways to do it. And there are pay phones inside. Gangs do not need your fantasy cell phone scenario to operate. And nobody – especially a visitor to a relative in jail – NOBODY deserves to be beaten nearly to death by armed thugs hiding behind a badge. This is still a nation of laws, and even arrestees awaiting trial and their family visitors outside have basic human rights guaranteed by our Constitution. The LASD broke the law in violating these rights.
Just because his attacker was wearing a badge doesn't make this violation and Carrillo's injuries less severe. Now he's being charged and imprisoned as the perp in LASD's own internal crime, and he'll have a record now. In this sorry case, the LASD created this criminal out of a family visitor. The point of the story is that this could be any one of us. The point is the LASD is out of control.
If you believe gangs use cell phones that magically pass thru inches of hardened glass and steel to run crime rings outside, you'll believe anything. Just do us all a favor and don't register to vote, okay? People like you don't have the brains required for critical thinking.
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Anon Xcon 06/01/2011 7:52:00 AM
J. MacDhai:
Another thing: You have no proof whatsoever that Carrillo or his girlfriend have any gang affiliation. Smearing them with terms like 'low life ganger and his bimbo' is nothing but hate speech, and there's no call for it. This guy was beaten to a bloody pulp and his girlfriend threatened with arrest or worse – and they were family visitors. This is a gross violation of human rights, and should not stand in the America I grew up in.
My own 80-year-old father visited me many times in County, and one time he forgot he had his cell phone in his pocket. He's wasn't part of a gang or trying to pass messages, he just has Alzheimer's. He forgets. Yet no deputy even laid a hand on him. No charges. He's also white. Go figure.
As to your inane raving! That there's film! And cameras everywhere!:
Reality check! Turn off the TV cop shows. You obviously haven't been there. Take it from me: in a year if incarceration in county and in Chino, I rarely saw surveillance cameras or monitoring of any kind. The only cameras in county are at reception, checkpoints and enroute to court. Video cameras were NOT in cells, cell blocks or pods, and deputies made a point of dragging inmates out of view or into cells before beating them. Then they'd make the rest of us swear we didn't see anything, or the victim 'fell down the stairs', under threat of further punishment, lockdown, loss of showers etc. The only time I saw deputies use a camcorder was when we were forced to file past as they recorded us each stating we didn't see their earlier beating and tazing of an inmate – on the record, under threat of punishment or violence.
Don't believe the LASD spokesmen. The Sheriff's Department doesn't WANT video cameras in County Jail. That would only provide solid proof of their ongoing brutal attacks on unarmed or cuffed prisoners. That's why it's been so hard for the ACLU and other reform groups to get cameras and monitors approved.
Some 250,000 Americans are now in jail or prison; tens of thousands of them here in sunny California. Over half of all black men between 18 and 35 – an entire generation – are now in prison, mostly for non-violent drug offenses. In L.A., prisoners who step out of line, trip and fall, can't hear, can't walk, or talk back are subject to severe ILLEGAL beatings by deputies, with no real recourse or justice. The only cameras in use are there to prove deputies' innocence, under threat of force. And these same abusive deputies, violating US, state and international human rights law, are NOT being held accountable whatsoever. This is what a police state looks like.
That's something you might have seen on TV... in a show about the Nazis.
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Anon Xcon 06/01/2011 6:56:00 AM
J. MacDhai: It's really pathetic how many of you nutcases reply here without any background in this issue and no real facts. Did you even read this article?
Maybe you'll take my word for it: I'm in my fifties AND I've been in county AND state prison (once) AND I've witnessed firsthand the Sheriff's arrogant, sadistic brutality AND I'm a natural-born taxpaying American AND I'm not gang-affiliated. I'm older, experienced, and have had my 'growing up'. Get it straight from me.
The state prison guards at Chino and even the LAPD I've done time with were more ethical, law-abiding and professional that the violent thugs running LA County Jail. Every week in County there were violent incidents either instigated or escalated by your beloved Sheriff's deputies, and I was in the twin towers med/psych section where it was supposedly 'safe'. Inmates who were beaten and sent to hospital, and all witnesses, were warned not to talk or file complaints under constant threat of even more violence.
Facts: America's violent crime rate (including homicide, rape and robbery) has plummeted to its lowest figures since the 1960's. Unless you live in New Orleans, the crime and homicide rates keep dropping nationwide. Yet our Land of the Free currently imprisons more people than any other country on Earth - even China. Most of those in jail or prison are serving time for non-violent offenses like drug possession, the majority of those cases are marijuana-related. Yet, in spite of these facts and more, reactionaries like you keep spewing that violent crime is out of control. What's out of control is law enforcement; we're not sinking into a police state - we're already there. Since the Patriot and Homeland Security Acts were made law, any of us can be searched, beaten and dragged from our homes at any time for nothing more than suspicion or speaking out of turn.
The LA Sheriff's Department has no citizen oversight board, no review entity, no Christopher Commission and no accountability to our city or state. There exists at LA County Jail a widespread culture of corruption, oppression and violence among enforcers that rivals that of 1980's South Africa, Saddam's Iraq or Stalin's USSR. I've seen it; you haven't. Any citizen, gang member or not, can be arrested and dragged into this stinking gulag and lose all civil and constitutional rights. That means YOU. I met plenty of guys in County who were just in the wrong place, had a domestic dispute or even tried to break up a fight, and ended up doing months in County waiting for trial BEFORE being found innocent or guilty. This could easily be you or me.
This article points out some of the abuses at LA County Jail, but not all. Be assured that if the Sheriff's Department itself releases data showing over 4,000 complaints in one year alone - 4,000 - then the truth is probably twice that. And those are only from inmates who had the courage to report abuse.
When you go to bed tonight, pray that you walk a straight line and never ever give law enforcement cause to drag you into this hell-hole. You'll definitely be singing a different tune about America after that nightmare. I know.
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Anon Xcon 06/01/2011 5:26:00 AM
Paco Loco: So gang members use cell phone in County? Right. And Mexicans can smell when you're afraid!
I spent 2010 in County's twin towers and saw visitors monthly; obviously you haven't. The security is such that there is NO way to smuggle a phone inside, unless you know some magical way to penetrate inch-thick bulletproof glass and steel during a 15-minute visit while under constant surveillance. Oh, and how do you recharge the phone later?
I met plenty of gang members in County and in Chino, and not one ever had access to a cell phone. What part of "full body search" do you not get? If you want to make things up, stick to fairy tales.
There are some good and decent Sheriff's deputies, but they are far too few. I saw too many brutal beatings, tazing and sadistic cruelty on a regular basis. I myself was assaulted and slammed down by your deputy "heros" [sic] at least twice simply for my being hearing-impaired and disabled. On three occasions I saw inmates going into full epileptic seizures, and your heroic Sheriff deputies responded by bullying, punching and kicking them with their boots - hard - all well before any medical team was called in for treatment.
If this is how they treat mental patients, epileptics, and even outside visitors, how exactly are these thugs behind badges "protecting LA's decent citizens"?
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Paco Loco 06/01/2011 4:38:00 AM
oh please, sorry criminal, you got caught smuggling in a cell phone, which is used by gangs within the jail to run crime rings outside of the jails. I'm sorry but that's what you get for breaking the law.
I guarantee if that confiscated phone had made it into the underground jail system and used to plan some kind of crime that hurt or killed one of your family members we would all change our attitudes about the heros our Sheriffs really are in protecting LA's decent citizens.
And if you really want to see, go to your nearest station and ask for a free ride along, but make sure you go somewhere nice like Echo Park or Watts for the full effect.
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Exodus 06/01/2011 4:33:00 AM
Wow, the writer of this is 'Obviously' bias, and in that is part of the problem.
Absolutely I believe Sheriffs are beating inmates unfairly. In fact, it's documented the prison guards have they're 'OWN' 'Gang'. They sell cell phones illegally to inmates.
Yet what do you expect when you have politicians, including Gov. Brown eye giving 'Lavish' benefits and treating these hoods themselves, like royalty. Union this, union that and they are law enforcers who act above the law. You get what you vote for and support.
Yet, this guy and girl who 'Disobeyed' the 'Law' and for whatever excuse they give, still 'Chose' to disobey the law and bring in cell phones for 'whatever' real reason it may have been. Come on, we're not stupid here.
If they would not have 'Broken the Law', then NONE of this would have happened, right? Yet, they want to call him a laborer, baby faced, like he's simply an innocent little Angel that got taken advantage of. Even 'HE' says he verbally challenged the officers. Again, what do you expect?
Thugs out powering law breakers... guess the bigger one's won and they're sour grapes about it. Give me a break.
So you know what...? You victimize, then pull the victim card. I'll bet both "baby face" and the girl have some history abusing and breaking the law. Yet when the law smacks back, they cry fowl.
Both sides have corruption, and the writer of this piece is as bias as they come so, stew in your own juices and go ahead, continue to knock this once great city down to a third world country. From Mayor Tony VillaLaRaza, his cousin the state assembly speaker, Fabian Nunez, One Bill Gill, to the corrupt prison guard gangsters, to all the gang's that ravage and defecate our neighborhoods and streets and every other on the take corrupt city officials, including the illegal population that drain our taxpayers wallets and suck our schools and social services dry and all those that support it from corrupt neighbors to the corrupt politicians.... go ahead, keep sucking the quality of life out of here. And continue to watch the good, productive, peace loving people that want no part of this cesspool, continue to leave and relocate to more 'sane' areas. Yet you want to complain??? Grow up!
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justicepevailsyeahright 06/01/2011 2:15:00 AM
I was raised by LA County Sheriffs, meaning that BOTH my parents were employed by and retired from the Sheriff's Department. Wanna know what I saw and learned to be truth during my childhood?? The LASD is THE baddest gang in LA! Period! They've got a badge and a gun and free reign to do as they please without consequence! Best advise...fly low and AVOID them completely!! If at all possible.
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baby27 06/01/2011 12:26:00 AM
how can you say he was trying to smuggle in a cellphone when he was just in the waiting room. its not like he was going to give the inmate the cellphone. remember stupid people the inmates are behind glass. people are just so f**Ken quick to judge !
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Gojitsu 05/31/2011 7:56:00 PM
I'm a religious volunteer at the MCJ and meet with inmates on a regular basis. I can tell you from my own experience, what you're reading regarding how the Deputies beat inmates is 100% true.
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05/30/2011 9:41:00 PM
Megan, or should I call you Rebbecca, ..... of Sunnybrook Farm? I have no idea how old you are, but by your given name, I suspect under 25. I think you have a lot of growing up to do, and reality hasn't quite set in yet! When I was born in 1947, the US population was at 144M people, and the total prison system contained 444K people.Or, in terms you can readily understand, 1 : 325 people in this Country was incarcerated. Our current "known" population is 310M presently, and (more than) 2.3M are currently incarcerated in the US, and that number is steadily increasing. The reason I said "known population" in the previous sentence, was that nobody is currently sure how many illegals are really here.That means that 1 : 135 known persons are in prison. Violent crime is out of control, drug related or not. Further, we have been inundated in recent years by violent gangs and Mexican, Central and So. American Drug Cartels, and a flood of Illegal as well as Legal Immigrants. Many of which also came from Slavic and Eastern Europe including Russia and the Baltic States. Some are War Criminals, and Russian Mafia, and some are even Middle Eastern Terrorists. It seems we opened the Candy Store, to the scum of the world, and they have every intention to take everything we have spent over 3 Centuries to build. They also have "NO" intention to assimilate, or conform to our laws. The Country that I grew up in, isn't even recognizable anymore. Civility and rule of law doesn't exist, and it has become a "me centered culture and economy" where everyone wants to party hardy on someone else's dime. Criminals, Gangs, Druggies, and Illegals are destroying what's left of our Nation. The reason you don't see that, is related to your age. You have nothing to compare your reality to, since what you see around you, is what has always been your frame of reference. (Your Reality, not mine!) I assure you, that we are headed into a far darker place, than you can even comprehend! So, why should I shed a tear for the scum that is destroying our world? In addition, you have no more of an idea about what really happened in this incident than I do. So far, all there is, is the word and complaint of a low life banger and his bimbo, who tried to sneak cell phones into a jail. We haven't yet heard from the Officer involved, but I bet you're banger buddy wasn't all polite and cooperative after being told he was under arrest for smuggling contraband in. Also, there will be film! Jails are heavlly fortified with cameras everywhere! So hold the Boo-Hoo for now!
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Aaa Bbb 05/30/2011 8:39:00 PM
My friend, the L.A.County Sheriff indicated to me: the only way a sheriff gets promoted is to punish criminals. Obviously, punishment of 'criminals' observed/helped by 'reliable witnesses' is a plus.
Sheriffs begin work in the jail, to acclimatize them to punishment. I one can't acclimatize, one can't promote. duh.
Practice makes perfect.
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Megan 05/30/2011 6:36:00 PM
J. MacDhai and Xira have made very interesting points both oozing with anger towards their fellow man and had both gave ups to violence with words like "subdued accordingly" and "killing people" NO ONE deserves to be beaten within an inch of their life. I think that the internet has brought us some alternate ways of helping to reform situations like these. What are some positive ways to turn this around? How can we help where every one wins? What can we do to insure true rehabilitation in these "correction" facilities? How can an article investigate so many atrocities and yet not publish the investigation of solutions it's readers can assist in? All I know is I sat reading this article balling my eyes out. What can we do? Really? Would everyone posting this article and asking everyone they know to re post it going to make a change? Any suggestions would be most helpful to me.
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Antifa1970 05/30/2011 5:31:00 PM
As I have always said, the los angeles sherrifs and police dept along with their brother dept; the orange county sherrifs are nothing but gang bangers with a badge and legal right to carry a gun. How long does this abuse have to go on till something is done?? As a person who has been locked up in the o.c. jail, I can attest to the abuse at the hands of the screws. Remember what happened at Attica?? Those that don't remember the past, are condemed to repeat it........and trust me on this......it's coming sooner the they think!
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Fubarsystem 05/30/2011 3:48:00 PM
Apparently when you are visiting county jails, these so called prison guards are allowed to Assault and batter you almost to death it seems, which is illegal and this is our law enforcement dollars that tax payers provide? for the record just because hes a Mexican doesn't mean he's a "gangbanger" and even if he was, theres no law against being in a gang are country has never passed a law against gangs until then it's are systems inadequacy that is at issue and these "prisonguards" need to be held accountable for their actions.
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Guest 05/30/2011 3:34:00 PM
lol you dont know what you are talking about. yes he shouldn't have taken a phone when its already been established that having phones inside the jail is illegal but to get a beating for talking? really?
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05/30/2011 3:24:00 PM
Ya, how convenient, they "BOTH" forgot they had Cell Phones on their person, while visiting the Jail! Contraband signs and notices everywhere in sight! Just another couple o' Bangers, who'll be seeing a lot more of that Jail real soon. Reminds me of "Can't we all just get along" Kumbaya! No doubt this guy is a real choir boy! I'm sure he never belonged to any gang, or was ever arrested for anything, and his family and friends are all on the up and up, no doubt! At least that's the argument some scumbag lawyer is going to try and make you believe, because all they see is dollar signs! A more likely scenario is that this little piece of gang banging trash, thinking he's a real bad ass, resisted to the max, and was subdued accordingly!
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Zeusmode 05/30/2011 2:22:00 PM
"Go along with the program" is exactly what the citizens of Germany said in the early 1940's. When authority and power is abused, citizens have the duty to stand up and fight back, regardless of whether the person being abused is a "thug" or not. Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.