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Digitally Ad-Wrapped Skyscrapers Coming to L.A.?

Jan Perry opens a new front in the Los Angeles billboard wars

Respected architects and developers point to problems as well. Gwynne Pugh was a partner in Pugh + Scarpa, the architectural firm honored by the American Institute of Architects as Firm of the Year in 2010. He's a planning commissioner for the city of Santa Monica and heads the Gwynne Pugh Urban Studio.

"If [the lighting] is for the purposes of art and decoration alone, then it becomes a part of the aesthetic," he tells the Weekly. "But the moment you are asking people to look at it for the purposes of selling a product, it becomes a billboard."

A devout urbanist, Pugh believes that sign districts have an important place within the city's landscape. But, he says, "There's nothing worse than spot zoning. ... It smacks of special favors."

Longtime L.A. developer Jim Suhr says sign districts in L.A. should encompass a distinct area, not be a single building or project, "because what happens here is that property owner X down the street is getting some of the impacts — and none of the benefits," he says.

For that reason, Pugh predicts lawsuits against the city. Suhr concurs: "Various buildings on either side" of the two ad-draped skyscrapers will "want a cut of the cake, too."

Both Perry and Reyes say they hope to turn the area south of the Wilshire Grand, and adjacent to L.A. Live, into a sign district, and Hanjin is contributing $400,000 for an Environmental Impact Report to study that idea. Hanjin's ad-wrapped skyscrapers could be viewed as "anchors for a proposed sign district," Reyes says.

But the underlying issue is the vast amount of new ad dollars that will flow to wealthy L.A. skyscraper and building developers.

San Francisco Beautiful's Hanke, who heads a wealth management company and is not exactly antibusiness, calls digitally ad-wrapped buildings "a form of blight that discourages healthy development that adds to your tax base."

He says reaping such advertising revenue from the outside of buildings becomes more valuable than leasing the space inside the building.

"Are the buildings being built for buildings, or for signs?" Consumer Watchdog's Court asks of the Wilshire Grand project.

For instance, Manhattan's famed triangular building, One Times Square, is cited as a model for Hollywood's and L.A. Live's flashy future. But for years, One Times Square was essentially uninhabited. The flashing ads on the outside were the real payoff, not the rental of spaces inside.

Michael Woo, an L.A. city planning commissioner and dean of the College of Environmental Design at Cal Poly Pomona, fears developments that are mere "platforms for advertising instead of the architecture of the buildings themselves."

He's not opposed to dramatic lighting to enhance the skyline, but warns of developers who "start depending on the revenue from billboards to finance a building — and that seems to be a trend in L.A. these days."

AEG revealed on Feb. 17 that it wants outdoor advertising around the proposed NFL stadium downtown, Farmers Field, to help pay off bonds to finance it. The lucrative "additional exterior signage rights" would grace not just the stadium but "new parking structures," and even "the existing Convention Center" owned by the public. It's gotten little attention from the City Council and media, who have focused on AEG's plan to reap ticket taxes and parking fees, among other things, to pay off an estimated $350 million in stadium bonds.

Court and Hanke warn of the specter of largely empty, but heavily billboarded, buildings elsewhere in the city as City Council members permit special sign districts that boost earnings for outdoor advertising firms — who in turn support their political campaigns.

The Wilshire Grand sign district, Court says, "is a big 'For Sale' sign that Jan [Perry's] putting up for her mayoral campaign."

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Rick Abrams
Rick Abrams

LA would be better off if we chose city councilmembers by lottery.

JDRCRASHER
JDRCRASHER

@STARCHY: "The only solution is a COMPLETE BAN ON BILLBOARDS of ALL kinds - no special districts, no exceptions."

Then why hasn't that been done in other cities that have billboard districts?

JDRCRASHER
JDRCRASHER

Wait, if this is the case........then why do we have places like Times Square, Piccadilly Circus, Dundas Square, Victory Park, etc etc etc...?

Restrict billboards to Hollywood Blvd (between La Brea and Highland), and in South Park (in an area bounded by 9th, Flower, Venice, and Cherry). These billboard districts actually already exist, but encompass a larger area; they just need to be smaller. Then tax the billboard districts, and use the funds for arts programs and other community projects, like what's done in Toronto. Then ban the billboards everywhere else and fine the billboard companies after a certain amount of time when the ban is enacted, for each billboard they fail to take down that is outside the signage districts. In turn, well over 90% of the city would be ad-free.

There's absolutely no excuse, morally or legally, why this can't be done without lawsuits when it has already been done in many cities, NONE.

THE_ORIGINAL_STARCHY
THE_ORIGINAL_STARCHY

Excuse? There is no REASON why the collective we should submit to such distracting shilling- its urban blight plain and simple

Downeflip
Downeflip

I actually like this idea... i mean, some people sleep with their tv on, thats worse than having a little eerie glow from the digital ads. like myself if i lived in the vicinity i wouldnt be bothered by a lil glow into my room. if you dont like it then u can buy thick curtains similar to those in hotels that block off light. signage like this actually do make a place more attractive and adds lighting to streets. Las Vegas or Times Square would be boring or dead if signage and digital ads with large flat screens weren't attractive. LOTS OF PEDESTRIANS AND TOURISTS. Los Angeles might not get that same dense pedestrian activity YET, but if they keep it up and maybe bring the digital signage and architectural lighting down figueroa street to the convention center, along with retail, dining, and hotels... In time, the area will become a major attraction and catalyst to all of downtown, especially Broadway with its movie palaces. Just look what signage and digital lights have done to Times Square and The Strip in Vegas.

It also creates that urban and entertainment atmosphere. With the digital signs lighting the streets, people might feel safer walking at night.

THE_ORIGINAL_STARCHY
THE_ORIGINAL_STARCHY

you are confusing SITE SIGNAGE ("movie palaces") with BILLBOARDS (huge COKE bottles and Toyota logos).

OC_F1fan
OC_F1fan

To S Lynn Gomes, Yes you actually are given a choice regarding commercials on your TV. All you need to do is buy either a Roku device or the similar devices that compete against it, install it to your TV and then use it to download movies, shows, TV specials and sports WITHOUT the commercials. If you were to use a DVR/Tivo then you can easily just fast forward through the commercials. Damn I hate wen people complain about things that they can easily solve themself.

THE_ORIGINAL_STARCHY
THE_ORIGINAL_STARCHY

The only solution is a COMPLETE BAN ON BILLBOARDS of ALL kinds - no special districts, no exceptions.

Tibby Rothman
Tibby Rothman

Hey guys, this is Tibby Rothman, the story's writer. Michael Locke, what sort of limitations do you think are appropriate? Lynne and "knows it all", thanks for dropping by the Weekly.

S Lynne Gomes
S Lynne Gomes

Seriously?? We are so inundated with advertising in our lives - now we're going to have this, too??? Come on! Why do we NEED this? I can't go onto a website without being bombarded by advertising, the majority of my postal mail is advertising, I have a "spam" folder for all the internet advertising e-mails I receive, and it's not enough that I have commercials during my favorite TV shows -- there's pop-ups that flash or scroll across my TV screen at will! (A person can't even block those! At least I can block pop-ups on my computer -- but I am not even given a choice on my TV!) We are being bombarded and distracted by advertising in practically EVERY aspect of our lives! ENOUGH, ALREADY!

Michael Locke
Michael Locke

There needs to be strict limitations on this trend. People who live in the immediate vicinity need to have a voice in whether it is approved or not. I personally would enjoy seeing from a distance as long as it does not infringe on the rights and priveleges of owners and tenants who might be negatively impacted.

knows it all
knows it all

Guess who is the developer of the mega project at the Universal Metro.?

 
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