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Red O: Back to Bayless

Bringing Mexican to L.A., With Mixed Results

View more photos in Anne Fishbein's slideshow, "Red O: Bringing Mexican to L.A., With Mixed Results."

Behind the scenes in Red O's kitchen
PHOTO BY ANNE FISHBEIN
Behind the scenes in Red O's kitchen

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RED O

8155 Melrose Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90046

Category: Restaurant > Fusion

Region: West Hollywood

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The first thing you will see if you happen by Red O is the bouncer, or "door host," a tall, elegantly dressed man with the build of an NFL cornerback, a man whose job it is to mediate between you and the glories awaiting inside. If your name is not on the clipboard, you are not exceedingly pretty or he has never seen you before, you are probably not getting into the restaurant, no matter how many people read your blog. If you have reserved, he will treat you like his best friend on Earth. For the people whose nocturnal pleasures include places like Voyeur or Hyde, this is standard procedure; if there aren't 300 people waiting outside on a Saturday night, a club isn't worth going to. For the people who are more interested in who might be cooking at a restaurant than in who might be sipping mezcal at the bar, the doorman is practically a war criminal. Pity the man who stands between a chowhound and his dinner.

The food-obsessed, of course, tend to avoid anything that might be termed a Hollywood lounge, whose clientele, they assume correctly, tend to have priorities that differ from their own. But Red O, which looms up from Melrose like a nightclub out of a Michael Mann flick, features the cuisine of Rick Bayless, the Chicago chef whose restaurants make Los Angeles Mexican-food snobs sigh with envy. When the Obamas invited the president of Mexico to the White House, it was Bayless who cooked the dinner. The lines outside his casual restaurant Xoco rival the lines outside Pink's. He won the only season of Top Chef Masters that anybody seems to have watched, and he appears to spend half his life sending enchilada recipes to his demanding followers on Twitter.

Red O, it is clear, is basically a consulting gig for Bayless, and the owners seem to be gambling on a hunch that Bayless' sleek, modern Mexican cooking, as executed by his executive chef Michael Brown, may help the place stand out from the post-post Nobuisms that have become the franks 'n' beans of every other club on this side of town.

Still, where jazzy neosushi has become a global commodity, a signifier of the good life everywhere from St. Petersburg to Santiago to Beijing, Los Angeles is home to more Mexicans than greater Guadalajara, and we embrace the astronomical variety of Mexican cooking as our own. The exclusivity a lot of cognoscenti enjoy here is not the exclusivity of class but of information — which Southside bakery serves great cochinito pibil on weekend afternoons; which street vendor makes the best D.F.-style huaraches; which Oaxacan cenaduria serves the best green mole, which serves the best red mole, which serves the best white mole, and why. If you imply that a certain diner may serve the best Guerrero-style lamb barbacoa in town, 50 correspondents may jump out at you, each of them with a logical argument as to why the barbacoa they prefer is the best.

Thus it is not surprising that a lot of people in the local food community decided that Red O was not for them. The most articulate of the detractors, a comida fanatic named Bill Esparza whose blog, StreetGourmetLA.com, occasionally skews toward Maoist ideological purity, took the restaurant down dish by dish, pointing out how Bayless' dishes differed not just from the originals in their states of origin, but from what he deemed to be superior versions available in Los Angeles. I didn't agree with all of Esparza's assessments — he was especially harsh to a perfectly respectable crock of chicken with poblano chiles and cream — but I respected him for making them.

I got caught in the crossfire about a month after Red O opened, when I delivered a kind of informal cocktail-hour address at a mixer for CCNMA (California Chicano News Media Association) in a South Coast Plaza restaurant patio. The talk (which followed an incredibly moving commemoration of the 40th anniversary of Los Angeles Times journalist Rubén Salazar's death at the hands of the LAPD) was loose and sentimental, woven more or less around the tricky idea of authenticity. Along the way, I lingered for a few seconds on Bayless, pointing out that he was a student of Mexican cuisine, had good restaurants in Chicago, takes his staff on yearly research trips to Mexico and wrote well-researched cookbooks, but also touching on assertions in some publications that "real" Mexican food had finally arrived in Los Angeles. The ultimate point of the talk was the belief that our Chicano cuisine was as authentic as the food from any other Mexican region. Afterward, almost everybody who came up to me wanted to share stories about the food that their abuelitas had loved. The subject of Bayless didn't even come up.

But the next morning, Gustavo Arellano, managing editor of O.C. Weekly and author of the revered "Ask a Mexican!" column, wrote a post about the comments in the paper's food blog, and Bayless immediately went on the attack: "I never said I was going to introduce Southern California to 'authentic' Mexican cuisine," he wrote in the blog's comments section. "I guess getting a Pulitzer doesn't mean your [sic] beholden to truth."

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  • j gold 09/27/2010 1:12:00 AM

    Mr. Livingston: You are, of course, correct. There was no love lost between Salazar and the LAPD, but the fatal tear gas canister was in fact fired by a sheriff's deputy. Thanks for the note.

  • kevin livingston 09/26/2010 2:16:00 AM

    The Los Angeles Sheriffs(not the LAPD) were the ignominious culprits in the firing of a tear gas cannister into the head of Ruben Salazar. My source is HST's "Strange Rumblings in Aztlan."

  • Joel Wyatt 09/24/2010 7:34:00 PM

    Great article. Red O will be 1,000 points on Open Table in no time - watch.

  • j gold 09/24/2010 5:54:00 AM

    JAZ: Thanks for the note - but I did mean cornerback: speed and power, a Deion Sanders build. The doorguy is definitely not an OT. Israel: Bayless is legitimately a scholar of the cuisine. And he is using super-high-end ingredients - it's not as if Creekstone is giving him a break on beef because it's a Mexican restaurant. But I understand what you mean. Liz and Douggy: Thanks! Bill Johnson: funny!

  • JAZ 09/24/2010 3:58:00 AM

    I know this isn't the most relevant comment, but if you were trying to convey muscles or beefiness on the part of the bouncer, comparing him to an NFL cornerback isn't quite the right comparison. Cornerbacks are usually much shorter and slimmer than the other players on the field. I think you want to say something like linebacker or lineman.

  • Israel Ruiz 09/24/2010 3:39:00 AM

    I don't have anything against Bayless, I am a fan of his show and consider him one of the only guys that are closer to the real thing than most. Like I always say, at least he's trying to showcase our culture. But I wouldn't consider him the real deal, even if his off the rack salsa is pretty tasty. Yet reading some of these other comments makes me wonder whether I would ever go to the above mentioned restaurant. If I'm going to drop $200 at a place, I don't want to be treated like the help. Better to go to a taco stand and spend $5 than to some snooty wanna-be Mexican place and get shafted with money and attitude.

  • Bill Olson 09/24/2010 2:29:00 AM

    Red O was entirely too uptight for my taste... from the valet that lectured me about not being able to get in without a reservation (which I had), to the doorman/host that barely acknowledged my presence and then was rude when he got my name wrong, to the waiter that rolled his eyes when my date made an inquiry about the menu! The food was just ok and the atmosphere was entirely too uptight. I don't recommend it and I won't ever go there again.

  • Liz 09/24/2010 2:24:00 AM

    JGold, you are a mensch.

  • Bill Johnson 09/24/2010 12:41:00 AM

    I figure 24 months and gone. Then again, I thought that about Boa. Some restaurants seem to fill a need based on location and cool more than food. By the way, I'm thinking about moving to Beirut and teaching them how to make proper hummus. I've studied and read about it for years. If I get a place with a good view and hire hot waitresses, I'll probably do fine.

  • Douggy 09/23/2010 10:46:00 PM

    Good of you to have the courage to go back and try some stuff again. I have to admit that I am a big Bayless fan, from So Cal but lived in Chicago and have been to all his places. When i heard your remarks i lost some respect for you because i took them as bashing him, even though some points were valid it didn't seem like "the right thing to do." Kudos for clearing the air.

  • Israel Ruiz 09/23/2010 10:37:00 PM

    Sorry, but I've never had better Mexican food in L.A. than my mom's home cooking, and she makes great lengua and chiles rellenos. But if I ever find anything good amongst the land of taco trucks and King Tacos, I will celebrate. Please, don't tell me Mexican food in L.A. is great if it costs $30 a plate and it's served with rice and beans! Please don't tell me that someone that didn't grow up eating Mexican food everyday for the past 30 years has better discerning taste buds than someone who has. And whatever you think Mexican food can be, with all respect, it is comfort food more or less with lots of flavor, don't hold back the hot spiciness, don't hold back the garlic and cilantro. You show me an honest to goodness authentic Mexican eatery priced below $15 like it is even in Tijuana, and I will say okay, okay? Thanks!

  • mario 09/23/2010 9:03:00 PM

    Good authentic Mexican food is the cheapest thing to make. I'll just stick to "Taco's Mexico" for my authentic mexican fix. Looks like another "El Torito" style place, no thank you.

 
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