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When Those Who Can't Teach, Do

We give it all up this week to Beth Barrett's cover story ("LAUSD’s Dance of the Lemons," Feb. 11) on the LAUSD's inability to deal effectively with its ineffective teachers, or those it accuses of being ineffective. Either way, it's a huge issue in Los Angeles, and not surprisingly hit a nerve with students, parents and teachers alike:

"You have covered almost all angles: the superintendent, retired administrators, current administrators, the arbitration panel, UTLA president, and the subpar teachers themselves," writes Ms. Infante. "The public has a right to fair and balanced reporting. [But] this piece, although admirably thorough, is missing the input from the largest portion of LAUSD employees: the teachers who have their noses to the grindstone, and to whom this career is more than just a job; it is a calling."

A somewhat different point of view comes from someone calling himself, we hope not literally, Quik Lube on Slauson: "Changing the way LAUSD teachers are hired or fired to improve school performance? Aromatherapy for a broken leg."

Nicely put, Quik Lube, but Greg here has a more reasoned suggestion: "It seems in both parties' interest — UTLA [the teachers union] and LAUSD — to make evaluations more meaningful, frequent and comprehensive. The vast majority of teachers will receive average or positive ratings. Teachers such as those chronicled in this article are perpetuating a crime on society, though, and need to pursue another career. The union has to recognize that it's in their best interest as a professional union to help counsel these people out, rather than defending them tooth-and-nail."

Nancy Weems makes a point mentioned by several others: "Burnt out teachers are not a joke and neither is the broken system that produces them. I have taught at USC, for the LAUSD and at charters for some years. Yes, I've seen teachers who are burnt out but the elephant in the room is that public schools are crazy houses and the great teachers I know are leaving the profession."

LAUSD teacher N/A sees a culprit other than teachers and the district: "The parents drive their kids to school in Mercedeses but when the kids get there they have no tissues. This is crazy! I think parents need to wake up and start helping their schools. Start donating time, money and supplies to make the school run.

"Parents expect one person to teach 30 5-year-olds to use the bathroom, tie their shoes, read, write, do math and speak. This is unrealistic. Have you been in a room with 30 5-year-olds, including five-six kids with autism or other special needs? Until you have, you have no idea what it's like. I love my job and yes there are bad eggs in this district, but there are many more parents who just aren't stepping up to bat. Take responsibility for your kids! Or don't have any!"

Jeff has one simple reaction: "Sad, disheartening and shameful. We can do better than this. We need a statewide proposition on this."

No, Jeff, no!

"It is highly simplistic to assume that improvement of schools will result from firing allegedly incompetent teachers," writes Herb. "The basic problem is one of definition: I could be incompetent because I refuse to hop on each of the district's fads, such as the latest, cooperative learning. On the other hand, my classes are interactive, I am enthusiastic, students learn.

"The biggest obstacle is the district's bizarre 2003 decision that every child would take and pass traditional academics starting with algebra 1AB. As a teacher of algebra one and two, I can tell you that for some students, this is not teaching, it is miracle work. Universal mandatory algebra is a social experiment on the order of Prohibition or communism — beautiful in the abstract and a fiasco in reality."

L.A. Teacher wonders why we didn't publish an article about how the school district can't keep its good teachers: "That is the real story here. But I guess you wouldn't sell as much advertising with the headline 'Competent Teachers Leaving LAUSD in Droves.' And why doesn't LAUSD shift all those "good teachers" from high-API schools in LAUSD to low-performing ones? Because those teachers would quit rather than teach the poverty-stricken students and sometimes gang members we have to teach. Your article should have focused on making LAUSD schools teachable enough to attract teachers and to hold students and their parents accountable for tagging, stealing and the other assorted things we have to deal with here. But that article will never be published."

Anne Mere responds to the age issue: "I resent your caricature of older teachers as being senile and unable to perform. Most teachers improve the longer they teach. Young teachers lack wisdom and experience, which are very important. I started teaching in my late 50s after years of diverse and responsible careers in business. Teaching is the most difficult and challenging career I have ever had. And I will lose 50 percent of my Social Security when I retire, if ever."

Stevieray lays out a plan: "It is time for a change. At least two things must be done soon, before another generation of Americans are sacrificed to the twin blood gods NEA and AFT.

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  • Chuck Rizzo 10/29/2010 2:43:00 AM

    Now I suspect that I have my share of qualified competitors out there, but it bothers me to no end how many CONSULTANTS, COACHES, ADVISORS, and best of all MARKETING GURU’s there are… who are selling their “expert support and guidance” in areas that they themselves have really NEVER excelled. They say that talk is cheap… but you’d never know it from these guys! Shouldn’t there be a rule that says…. “If you have never actually “walked the walk” and successfully taken new products or services to market, you can NOT charge others to lead them down a path that you yourself have never even traveled? That’s fair…isn’t it? Have we gotten so caught up with the marketing spin & hype that’s continually put out there, that we’ve now forgotten that we still need to look behind the curtain? Wouldn’t you like to know that the person and/or company you are stroking that check too, has actually faced the marketing fog of war and successfully come out on the other side. My question is… How many people hire professional consultants & coaches, only to receive a bunch of meaningless words and useless information? Expert Marketing and Business Consultants

  • Deborah Breuner Davis 06/17/2010 4:17:00 AM

    Dear Beth, I found you through LA Weekly while searching desperately for a reporter who will expose my story about the California state workers who aren't doing their jobs... you know like some of the teachers not doing their jobs while being paid handsomely. My story is huge, fits with what's going on in this world today and covers most of the country. However, I know the problem with state workers is particularly troubling in California. As of a year and a half ago I moved back to California, my native state. I lived in Colorado for eight years. While I was living in Colorado was when my problems started or at least this was when I figured out I had a problem. I have a two page typed summary about my issue but I hesitate to send it to you before I ask if you're interested enough to read it. Sorry but it takes two pages just to tell my story. You can let me know once you read this. In a nut shell, in 2004 I found out my named trust, created to protect my assets had been embezzled. This happened while my husband, prominent attorney, Paine Webber, McDonald Investments, money manager, a national bank and a couple of trustees were being paid to oversee it's growth. My husband and I were divorced in 2000, after he tried to murder me. My trust was worth eighty million dollars, now it's completely gone and since 2004 I've contacted every government agency that handles crime such as this in Michigan,Colorado,Idaho and California including the Attorney Generals in most of these states. They won't even look at my documents. I've also had to contact various State Bars, they ignore me too. I've contacted the FBI and they also are ignoring me. Why all these states, because my funds came from California, I lived in Michigan, Idaho and Colorado. Just lately I received a letter from Governor Schwarzenegger, finally after I'd written him multiple times, over six years, that I contact California Attorney General, "Moonbeam" Brown because my issue is his responsibility. I sent a copy of this correspondence to Jerry Brown. He's now ignoring the governor. I've been homeless and penniless since 2007 because of this and I've lost my precious family of five dogs, my wonderful business and all my belongings. I meet people everyday in cheap motels where I get to sleep sometimes, whom have similar stories to mine...the government has completely lost it's mind and not one agency in place to protect the public, investigate and charge criminals for horrendous crimes, is doing their job. I don't see the country going anywhere but to the devil while serious crime continues to be unaddressed and I'm sure I'm not the only victim to this apathy. Thank you for your time. If you want to know more or need proof, my number and e-mail are below. Sincerely, Deborah Breuner Davis 951-541-8617 debbiebreuner@yahoo.com

  • melinda 02/20/2010 9:22:00 AM

    This is just another WHEN IN DOUBT OR IGNORANCE BASH THE TEACHERS!

  • paula 02/20/2010 3:56:00 AM

    Let's call this article and the one before it what it really should be called "when people who can't write, do."

  • redux 02/20/2010 3:50:00 AM

    We're happy you can regurgitate some comments on that poorly written article about LAUSD teachers. When will we see a balanced piece on other parts of the problems in LAUSD? Just as I thought. too much effort required to really do the research correctly. L.A. Weekly, you sure you're not the L.A. Times?

  • Dan 02/19/2010 8:36:00 AM

    This was the worst piece of writing and reporting I have ever seen. Both this piece and the one recently in the Times take the low road of bashing teachers, the union, and the "evils" of tenure. Why do you think the judges side with the teachers? Maybe because the school district IS screwing up. How many interventions occur each year and what percentage result in firings? It may be so low as to not be a factor. How many successful cases does the district have from intervention? From this article it appears that EVERY intervention is a failue. Maybe most of them are a success. If intervention is a failure, why isn't the district working with the union to improve the invention process? I am willing to bet that the cases cited are unusual. And that the number of these type situations are few and far between. But the district is using them to instill fear into the populace and eventually bust the union. The author's readily apparent bias against the union just adds more fuel to the fire. Some times the smoke is not fire until you add more gasoline. Do some real reporting.

  • anthony 02/18/2010 11:48:00 PM

    I didn't pass algebra until I was 30 or so. Please stop making non-science majors take algebra, it's completely unnecessary. Also, I work in finance and I've NEVER had to use algebra.

  • anthony 02/18/2010 11:47:00 PM

    One thing I agree on is that mandatory algebra is insane. I passed algebra at LACC when I was 30; it's COMPLETELY UNNCECESSARY for someone NOT in a science field. STOP MAKING KIDS TAKE ALGEBRA!!!

 

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