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Trutanich Probes Pot Backer Duncan

Having done little homework, the City Council prepares to approve a medical pot law

Los Angeles City Attorney Carmen Trutanich is investigating medical pot activist Don Duncan, who L.A. Weekly reported has frequently met in private with city politicians and policy makers, after learning that Duncan failed to disclose his role in the for-profit Harborside Management Associates, which BusinessWeek reports is planning the nation’s first franchised pot chain.

Special Assistant City Attorney David Berger and City Council President Eric Garcetti confirmed that until the Weekly’s queries about Duncan last week, they both believed he was a volunteer fighting for medical rights and were unaware of his work for Harborside, a politically connected Bay Area medical marijuana consultancy business. Trutanich’s ethics division is conducting the investigation.

“I understood he was merely a volunteer representative for Americans for Safe Access,” Berger writes in an e-mail to the Weekly. In light of emerging information, “I have, accordingly, asked [the city attorney’s] ethics division to advise me on whether any issues arise” from Duncan’s relationship with the for-profit Harborside.

In September, Denver Westword, a newspaper owned by L.A. Weekly’s parent company, reported that Duncan went to Denver for Harborside to tout a new medical weed store called “Local Product.” Duncan operates a busy dispensary in West Hollywood, where city officials concede they have not tried to determine if he is making a profit.

Until the Weekly’s investigative report last week, Los Angeles officials were unaware even of the number and locations of pot outlets operating in Los Angeles. That number is 545, the Weekly has determined. The locations have been published on the Weekly Web site.

The paper’s two-month investigation of City Hall’s handling of medical marijuana dispensaries (“L.A.’s Medical Weed Wars: How the potheads outwitted Antonio Villaraigosa and the Los Angeles City Council,” November 23, 2009) found that political leaders had failed to deal with one of the most controversial quality-of-life issues to face L.A. in years.

The investigation found that slightly more than 400 nonpermitted medical pot shops — claiming a fiscal “hardship” — used a loophole to open in Los Angeles during a failed city moratorium. That number is on top of the 142 dispensaries still remaining from the original 186 that opened in a flurry before the moratorium, the Weekly determined.

Berger says that Trutanich’s office is completing a report on the pre-moratorium weed outlets for the City Council, using the Weekly’s database as “source material” to help understand the scope of the medical pot industry here. The Villaraigosa administration failed to create its own database of the proliferating pot stores.

As the Weekly showed, for years elected officials were highly deferential to Duncan, even as the number of outlets mushroomed. City Councilman Dennis Zine let Duncan edit one of Zine’s press releases on medical pot and secured him a City Hall parking space. Eastside Councilman Ed Reyes asked Duncan if there were any “deal breakers” that would displease Duncan in a proposed city law. Duncan was invited to join a secret working group of top city department employees, including the LAPD, which spent months drafting medical pot policy ideas. Neighborhood groups, business leaders, school officials and parents were shut out of that group.

Yet Duncan underwent no scrutiny by the city Ethics Commission. (Duncan says that, as of December 1, he had not been contacted by Trutanich’s ethics division, which is independent of the Ethics Commission.)

After the Weekly’s story appeared, Weedtracker.com, a site that features paid advertising from weed dispensaries, urged an ad boycott of the Weekly. “They shouldn’t bite the hand that feeds them,” the posting says. Dogpatch Media, a Sacramento marketing and advertising firm founded by Jon Furry that produces Weedtracker, sent a Tweet pushing for an ad boycott and complaining that the newspaper “has really been treating us badly.”

The City Council, meanwhile, abruptly canceled a December 2 hearing on its medical pot regulations after Carmen Trutanich strongly recommended that pot outlets be required to grow their weed on the premises — a way to ensure that pot stores no longer buy drugs from gangs, organized crime and other illegal sources. Activist Duncan, the City Hall insider who has long advocated over-the-counter sales of pot, quickly responded that “requirements for on-site cultivation of medicine should be removed.” The City Council will now try to adopt its long-delayed regulations next week.

Amid this continuing tug of war, it’s clear that the 15 council members still lack the basic planning and policy groundwork that generally occurs when they approve major laws involving land use and quality of life.

Councilman Reyes, chair of the council’s Planning and Land Use Management Committee, last week disclosed that a zoning map — a crucial tool for deciding appropriate locations for pot outlets — is still far from completion by the city Planning Department. “At this point,” Reyes confesses, “we cannot show a map.”

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    ok, this writer is way out of line. He's like some little kid in school telling on every body, and coming from his 'Alice in Wonderland' mindset, you never know how he's going to paint it. One thing is for sure, he has been brainwashed by the DA's office, if only he could see himself, outside himself. He'd be appalled. Like we are.

  • maison 12/21/2009 8:27:00 AM

    Trouble with Cooley and Trutanich, is they know how to stack a deck. Like this board, I guarantee they and their affiliates are multi-posting to make it look like there are many more people up in arms about this, then actually are. Why did only 5 of them show up at the council meeting and the rest of the 300 people were pro-medical marijuana. The problem is, they have repeated false information that now the media and public think is true. How can you win when someone isn't honest? I don't trust this DA or City Attorney. Can't we have a town hall meeting so these law breaking law enforcement can face the public they are supposed to serve>>>why has this not happened. Cooley and Trutanich would be afraid to face the public, because alot of their misconceptions would unravel. I welcome that and feel at this point it is the only fair thing to do. Someone take this ball, be tenacious and run with it.

  • jonathan 12/21/2009 7:52:00 AM

    You ripped apart an activist, and ignored the tender details of our top antagonists in this shambles - Let's look at Cooley and Trutanich's history...shall we? The DA has been sued by the Prosecutors Union for blacklisting prosecutors for joining the Union. NO FRIEND TO UNIONS. An Assistant DA who ran against him in the last election, as well as others have claimed that the Cooley is corrupt. Said he is calculatingly selective about his cases, making sure to protect those who play ball with him. spending tax payers money for his ROMAN POLANSKI high profile case which should have been closed long ago. The victim and her family don't want it. Cooley, in his distorted logic has been milking it to build an image as 'tough DA gets his man'. Maybe in 1965. The man is stuck in time. Many celebs have voiced their disapproval at the DA's refusal to leave an older sick man his peace, and the victim her wishes. No ser ee, what Cooley says, Cooley does. Even if it makes no sense at all, he has to prove he is right. Talk about a dangerous mind. NO FRIEND TO THE ENTERTAINMENT COMMUNITY! It has been widely reported that Cooley covered up the problems with Rampart Police corruption, including the beating of black youth. He's NO FRIEND TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY. He proposes to close in the ballpark of 1000 small businesses (medical marijuana dispensaries) - because of his interpretation of our laws. He's NO FRIEND TO SMALL BUSINESS. He SAID HE WOULD IGNORE THE LAW THAT LA"S CITY COUNCIL signs as an ordinance if it varies from his own opinion. He also said LA CITY COUNCIL IS IRRELEVANT. HE IS NO FRIEND TO LA CITY COUNCIL, or the PEOPLE WHO VOTED THEM IN to represent them. Then said he would break the law and do what he wanted anyway. They've already started to raid dispensaries. One of them the DEA shot the guys dog. 25 cops in riot gear bust into a small neighborhood dispensary. And shoot the guys dog. Who probably growled, he was doing his job. NO FRIEND TO THE ANIMAL COMMUNITY, OR TAXPAYERS - Cooley plans on spending kabootals of hundreds of thousands of dollars to conduct, raid, prosecute and incarcerate people who were following the rules how it was presented to them. California jails are already jammed with incarcerated pot smokers and small dealers. These LA Residents spent money to open this businesses, took out loans, have signed leases...we are talking, according to the city attorney's claim, (so minus a couple hundred), in the area of 1000 small businesses. Who, most of them, were given strict rules and followed them. I have been to many. Trutanich's offenses are as bull headed and offensive. Telling a City Council member he will prosecute her if she voted in a way that conflicted with his wishes. I mean, how are these guys still in office? I think before you people start throwing stones at various players in this scenario, special interest should be given to the details about DA Steve Cooley and his buddy City Attorney Carmen Trutanich.

  • jonathan 12/21/2009 7:52:00 AM

    You ripped apart an activist, and ignored the tender details of our top antagonists in this shambles - Let's look at Cooley and Trutanich's history...shall we? The DA has been sued by the Prosecutors Union for blacklisting prosecutors for joining the Union. NO FRIEND TO UNIONS. An Assistant DA who ran against him in the last election, as well as others have claimed that the Cooley is corrupt. Said he is calculatingly selective about his cases, making sure to protect those who play ball with him. spending tax payers money for his ROMAN POLANSKI high profile case which should have been closed long ago. The victim and her family don't want it. Cooley, in his distorted logic has been milking it to build an image as 'tough DA gets his man'. Maybe in 1965. The man is stuck in time. Many celebs have voiced their disapproval at the DA's refusal to leave an older sick man his peace, and the victim her wishes. No ser ee, what Cooley says, Cooley does. Even if it makes no sense at all, he has to prove he is right. Talk about a dangerous mind. NO FRIEND TO THE ENTERTAINMENT COMMUNITY! It has been widely reported that Cooley covered up the problems with Rampart Police corruption, including the beating of black youth. He's NO FRIEND TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY. He proposes to close in the ballpark of 1000 small businesses (medical marijuana dispensaries) - because of his interpretation of our laws. He's NO FRIEND TO SMALL BUSINESS. He SAID HE WOULD IGNORE THE LAW THAT LA"S CITY COUNCIL signs as an ordinance if it varies from his own opinion. He also said LA CITY COUNCIL IS IRRELEVANT. HE IS NO FRIEND TO LA CITY COUNCIL, or the PEOPLE WHO VOTED THEM IN to represent them. Then said he would break the law and do what he wanted anyway. They've already started to raid dispensaries. One of them the DEA shot the guys dog. 25 cops in riot gear bust into a small neighborhood dispensary. And shoot the guys dog. Who probably growled, he was doing his job. NO FRIEND TO THE ANIMAL COMMUNITY, OR TAXPAYERS - Cooley plans on spending kabootals of hundreds of thousands of dollars to conduct, raid, prosecute and incarcerate people who were following the rules how it was presented to them. California jails are already jammed with incarcerated pot smokers and small dealers. These LA Residents spent money to open this businesses, took out loans, have signed leases...we are talking, according to the city attorney's claim, (so minus a couple hundred), in the area of 1000 small businesses. Who, most of them, were given strict rules and followed them. I have been to many. Trutanich's offenses are as bull headed and offensive. Telling a City Council member he will prosecute her if she voted in a way that conflicted with his wishes. I mean, how are these guys still in office? I think before you people start throwing stones at various players in this scenario, special interest should be given to the details about DA Steve Cooley and his buddy City Attorney Carmen Trutanich.

  • jonathan 12/21/2009 7:52:00 AM

    You ripped apart an activist, and ignored the tender details of our top antagonists in this shambles - Let's look at Cooley and Trutanich's history...shall we? The DA has been sued by the Prosecutors Union for blacklisting prosecutors for joining the Union. NO FRIEND TO UNIONS. An Assistant DA who ran against him in the last election, as well as others have claimed that the Cooley is corrupt. Said he is calculatingly selective about his cases, making sure to protect those who play ball with him. spending tax payers money for his ROMAN POLANSKI high profile case which should have been closed long ago. The victim and her family don't want it. Cooley, in his distorted logic has been milking it to build an image as 'tough DA gets his man'. Maybe in 1965. The man is stuck in time. Many celebs have voiced their disapproval at the DA's refusal to leave an older sick man his peace, and the victim her wishes. No ser ee, what Cooley says, Cooley does. Even if it makes no sense at all, he has to prove he is right. Talk about a dangerous mind. NO FRIEND TO THE ENTERTAINMENT COMMUNITY! It has been widely reported that Cooley covered up the problems with Rampart Police corruption, including the beating of black youth. He's NO FRIEND TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY. He proposes to close in the ballpark of 1000 small businesses (medical marijuana dispensaries) - because of his interpretation of our laws. He's NO FRIEND TO SMALL BUSINESS. He SAID HE WOULD IGNORE THE LAW THAT LA"S CITY COUNCIL signs as an ordinance if it varies from his own opinion. He also said LA CITY COUNCIL IS IRRELEVANT. HE IS NO FRIEND TO LA CITY COUNCIL, or the PEOPLE WHO VOTED THEM IN to represent them. Then said he would break the law and do what he wanted anyway. They've already started to raid dispensaries. One of them the DEA shot the guys dog. 25 cops in riot gear bust into a small neighborhood dispensary. And shoot the guys dog. Who probably growled, he was doing his job. NO FRIEND TO THE ANIMAL COMMUNITY, OR TAXPAYERS - Cooley plans on spending kabootals of hundreds of thousands of dollars to conduct, raid, prosecute and incarcerate people who were following the rules how it was presented to them. California jails are already jammed with incarcerated pot smokers and small dealers. These LA Residents spent money to open this businesses, took out loans, have signed leases...we are talking, according to the city attorney's claim, (so minus a couple hundred), in the area of 1000 small businesses. Who, most of them, were given strict rules and followed them. I have been to many. Trutanich's offenses are as bull headed and offensive. Telling a City Council member he will prosecute her if she voted in a way that conflicted with his wishes. I mean, how are these guys still in office? I think before you people start throwing stones at various players in this scenario, special interest should be given to the details about DA Steve Cooley and his buddy City Attorney Carmen Trutanich.

  • Bo Oliver 12/21/2009 7:31:00 AM

    Let's hope the city government responds to the numerous requests for public records regarding tax credit affordable housing apartment properties; maybe they can pass an ordinance to force these properties to comply with state and federal regulations. See the youtube broadcasts "Rittenhouse Unfair" and http://hudincomeexclusions.wordpress.com/the-california-public-records-act-requests-who-and-what/. Let the council stop blowing smoke up the public's you know where.

  • Steve 12/14/2009 8:53:00 AM

    To: MedPotCrisis If you had half a brain you would be dangerous,Don Duncan and the folks @ BPG split up long ago. You do not have your facts straight so you should just crawl back into your hole.

  • Steve 12/14/2009 8:53:00 AM

    To: MedPotCrisis If you had half a brain you would be dangerous,Don Duncan and the folks @ BPG split up long ago. You do not have your facts straight so you should just crawl back into your hole.

  • mary 12/10/2009 4:06:00 AM

    No one lobbied harder FOR the election of Carmen Trutanich than the pro-medical cannabis community, the folks of ASA, GLACA, aboutmedicalmarijuana.com - all of them, walking precincts and sending in $$$ by the bushel as well as getting all their friends and neighbors to vote for him too. And boy was the Nuch grateful, nice photo in the aboutmedicalmarijuana.com blog day after on May 20th with the supporters all gathered around him at his party, and Don Duncan writing an EFFUSIVE and ECSTATIC celebration that WE NOW HAVE A GREAT FRIEND TO OUR COMMUNITY IN OFFICE. The current situation is not only ironic but coming from a man who all along planned to support his BFF and enabler Cooley's hard-line position, shows a depth of deceit that Laura Chick nailed as a total lack of character to the core, a moral rot that makes him "a liar and demagogue who said and did anything to get elected," but never meant a word of it. Maybe next time someone comes along with a fancy, expensive ad campaign that claims to be the opposite of everything his whole life has been about (a hardline very Republican advocate for the NRA, anti-environmental regulations, a hardliner on social issues in general who removed himself from the Party Roster to become "decline to state" just to vote) you'll be a little smarter. Duncan did wise up about Trutanich supporter Chris Essel - but now his name is mud in the political community thanks to the guy he pushed the community so hard to elect. And because of him and this paper's smearing anyone who's talked with him, with accusations of being soft on crime, stupidity and corruption -- people like Reyes and Koretz who tried to do the right thing, even nasty old Zine trying for a middle road away from his friend Trutanich-Cooley -- the whole advocacy community is much weakened. Of course this is not to BLAME poor Duncan for being politically duped since he's more caught in his own trap than anyone. But to paint him as some sort of sharp political operative after all this while giving Trutanich a pass on his horrible behavior, is adding insult to injury.

  • Rx Copayment 12/09/2009 9:50:00 AM

    I don't get it. Why such intense interest in stiffling profit and competition? There are pharmacies on virtually every corner peddling all manner of drug and merchandise. No one can claim these are not profit driven enterprises. We are all getting raped by prescription drug prices and yet we are to be apoplectic about medical marijuana collectives earning a living? Frankly, I believe the government should keep it's nose out of it. How is it those who scream so loudly about free enterprise are the first ones demanding prohibition of this line of business? What would it be like if we required everyone to manufacture their own prescription medications? Perhaps we should legislate that Big Pharma give its products away for free. Can we all agree on that?

  • Regular Joe 12/09/2009 9:37:00 AM

    Wow. What a hit piece. Against Duncan and several Councilmembers. So much innuendo with no sources, no attribution, no corroboration. And no opportunity to respond to such inflammatory accusations. Really, a City Hall parking space? And no effort to corroborate such an easily verifiable detail that, if true, would be easy to find in the public record? Clearly hogwash. The City Attorney, who has made such public hay of all this, is going to 'investigate' an ethics issue that is rightly the jurisdiction of the independent City Ethics Commission? Who is kidding whom? I would have expected better of LAW and PRM.

  • Michael Larsen 12/09/2009 5:48:00 AM

    Sorry to have missed you Lenny. Hope you feel better.

  • Lenny/JOV 12/09/2009 4:58:00 AM

    MLarsen you will never meet me because I care not to associate with persons incapable of compassion for their fellow human beings. You see to me and many "Real Patients" that use cannabis using words like Stoner,pothead etc is no different from using the "N"word. It is a derogatory, prejudicial and discriminatory stereotype that is unfounded. You are in no position to question me in no way shape or form. I have been to many of these meetings but can not always attend due to health reasons that you just would not care about. Michael, your kind is a dying breed and that gives me hope for a better tomorrow for my children and theirs.

  • Michael ( I love the attention 12/08/2009 8:08:00 AM

    Catch me if you can ,,,I'll be deep in chambers. Patty will be on my arm, witnessing, reporting my triumphs and reporting faithfully... I'll be looking pretty in my pink tie and my usual cheap blue sports coat. See you tomorrow for my big day. Kisses. Michael Larsen Eagle Rock City Councillor (Elect)

  • Michael Larsen 12/08/2009 7:24:00 AM

    My "thorough" experience is telling me that you are boycott busting....

  • arvo 12/08/2009 5:32:00 AM

    Never said anything about posts 78, 80, and 81. I'm not Joe, but I will see you tomorrow, libertybell. Have fun "sneaking" onto Weedtracker and using your "thorough experience" (who needs any solid qualifications when have "thorough experience"?) to add to your thousands (!) of hours of "research" on MMD.

  • Michael Larsen 12/08/2009 4:57:00 AM

    78, 80 and 81 are not my posts, but I'll see ya tomorrow! Joe.

  • arvo 12/08/2009 4:56:00 AM

    Brilliant strategy, Larsen. Not only did you utilize the libertybell handle to bait certain members of WT into believing the obvious conclusion (that it's a satirical ruse implemented by a proponent of MMJ) you also used it as a distancing device. You then took the assumptions of certain WTers, labeled it as truth, and used that as evidence that advocates of MMJ are sleazy or whatever else it is you stated. Larsen wins on all fronts if no one catches on, and as a plus, gets to indulge in some ignorant fun.

  • MLarsen 12/08/2009 4:00:00 AM

    See you all at City Hall! Oh the dopers aren't invited. It's for the special ones only -- The agenda for next Tuesday's (12/8/09) Los Angeles City Council meeting has been released and is posted at - http://ens.lacity.org/clk/councilage..._1208200\9.pdf The medical marijuana ordinance is item #10 on the agenda but has a notice that it may be a possible closed session item due to threatened litigation. ITEM NO. (10) - Motion Required 08-0923 POSSIBLE CLOSED SESSION - THREATENED LITIGATION - CONTINUING CONSIDERATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY and PLANNING AND LAND USE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEES' REPORT, PROPOSED AMENDING MOTIONS, ORDINANCES and NEW PROPOSED ORDINANCE(S) TO BE SUBMITTED FIRST CONSIDERATION relative to amending the Los Angeles Municipal Code to establish regulations regarding medical marijuana collectives. (The City Council may recess to Closed Session, pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9 (b), to confer with its legal counsel relative to threats of litigation publicly made regarding the adoption of the proposed ordinance and the impact on that potential litigation of recent court rulings.) (Pursuant to Council action of November 24, 2009) (Continued from Council meeting of December 2, 2009) What: Los Angeles City Council Meeting When: 10 AM * Tuesday, December 8th, 2009 Where: Room 340, City Hall, 200 N. Spring Street, Los Angeles 90012

  • MLarsen 12/08/2009 4:00:00 AM

    See you all at City Hall! Oh the dopers aren't invited. It's for the special ones only -- The agenda for next Tuesday's (12/8/09) Los Angeles City Council meeting has been released and is posted at - http://ens.lacity.org/clk/councilage..._1208200\9.pdf The medical marijuana ordinance is item #10 on the agenda but has a notice that it may be a possible closed session item due to threatened litigation. ITEM NO. (10) - Motion Required 08-0923 POSSIBLE CLOSED SESSION - THREATENED LITIGATION - CONTINUING CONSIDERATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY and PLANNING AND LAND USE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEES' REPORT, PROPOSED AMENDING MOTIONS, ORDINANCES and NEW PROPOSED ORDINANCE(S) TO BE SUBMITTED FIRST CONSIDERATION relative to amending the Los Angeles Municipal Code to establish regulations regarding medical marijuana collectives. (The City Council may recess to Closed Session, pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9 (b), to confer with its legal counsel relative to threats of litigation publicly made regarding the adoption of the proposed ordinance and the impact on that potential litigation of recent court rulings.) (Pursuant to Council action of November 24, 2009) (Continued from Council meeting of December 2, 2009) What: Los Angeles City Council Meeting When: 10 AM * Tuesday, December 8th, 2009 Where: Room 340, City Hall, 200 N. Spring Street, Los Angeles 90012

  • Micky L 12/08/2009 3:20:00 AM

    I'm so sick of my Patrick 'Rage' McDonald being attacked and his sexuality/personal hygiene questioned. I love you Patty.. Let me be your peppermint -pleeease. I luv peppermint teabags by the way. kisses Your Peppermint tea bag forever and ever MickyL

  • ML arse n 12/08/2009 2:57:00 AM

    Yeeeeeh > I'm so excited (I just can't help it!). Mr Range McDonald and my good self have been invited to attend tomorrows City Hall super secret special closed meeting where we will make more important points for the eradication of these filthy hippy types. ML arse n (I'm not the competent cartoonist) City Councillor elect

  • Patrick Range McDonaldDuck 12/08/2009 2:36:00 AM

    In the interests of full disclosure I own a poodle called 'Sexy'-he is my sexy poodle... PRM

  • MedPotCrisis 12/08/2009 2:20:00 AM

    Yes, Don Duncan is one of the principals at Harborside Management Consultants. That's small potatoes. You guys missed the real story�Don Duncan OWNS Berkeley Patients' Group. Quite a bit of Berkeley Patients' profit is funneled into Americans for Safe Access. I'm sure some of it has made it's way into Don's pocket as well. In this respect (funding of ASA), Don is probably one of the smartest of the Stoners out there, but he's still a stoner�and they must be the most SELFISH group I've ever encountered� the prevailing attitude is the ultimate boomer/Reagan/entitlement mantra of "Me! Me! Me! - I've got mine (and I want MORE), so screw you!" Don Duncan is no "volunteer" or "community activist." He's profited mightily off the backs of patients, he has them running at his beck and call to protest any attack upon the 'medical' Marijuana/Pot Club establishment as an "attack on patients" and he stands to profit MUCH MUCH more the longer this farce goes on.

  • Ron Stone 12/07/2009 9:02:00 PM

    As anyone who lives in LA should know well, "profit" is a highly elastic concept. Given the amount of creative bookkeeping expertise in SoCal, it's not much of a challenge for any pot store to show appropriate losses. Which means that, as usual, LA city government is looking busy while the various vested interests protect and expand their pieces of the rapidly growing pot pie. Which means that the rest of us should probably look into investing in a franchise or two.

  • Michael Larsen 12/07/2009 8:28:00 PM

    Zoe, Here's the short list: -3 yrs volunteer on Neighborhood Council. -1000+ hrs of research & meetings over almost 2 years on MMD issue. -Thorough knowledge of City departments and their interactions with MMD issue. -Thorough knowledge of the history and involvement in the proposed regulation on MMDs/MMCs in Los Angeles on behalf of my community. -Los Angeles stakeholder and resident.

  • in the know 12/07/2009 10:49:00 AM

    I am wondering what it is that PRM said about Don Duncan that made certain folks so mad? Let's remember now, Don introduces himself at city council, PLUM and NC meetings as the head of ASA, but leaves out his other interests, which might be illegal as a paid lobbyist. I think this information on Don was used like the info on Tiger Woods, everybody in the know knew it, they just waited until the right time to close the doors on the "activists" by labeling the one in charge with negative press. Now the city council will be in closed session to pass the regulations without scrutiny for as they say, "fear of litigation"....BS

  • Zoe 12/07/2009 10:30:00 AM

    "it does not necessarily bestow qualifications or expertise in the realm of Land Use, Public Safety or municipal ordinance drafting." And what are your qualifications in the fields that you just specified? I'm genuinely interested in knowing.

  • Michael Larsen 12/07/2009 7:36:00 AM

    I didn't write #70 either, but I don't disagree with the premise. While having or surviving a serious illness deserves our sympathy, it does not necessarily bestow qualifications or expertise in the realm of Land Use, Public Safety or municipal ordinance drafting. This is a rhetorical trick that the MMJ advocates have been using for years: I have (or had) an illness, therefore you opinions or arguments are invalid and if you disagree with me, you are Uncompassionate. This threat of being labeled "uncompassionate" is the main reason politicians typified by our City Council, have avoided the issue and created the mess in which we find ourselves.

  • MLarsen 12/07/2009 5:16:00 AM

    Lots of people have cancer. They also aren't potheads. Moot point!

  • Johnnieu 12/07/2009 12:36:00 AM

    This article is a joke and a disgrace. The author obviously has a bias towards the subject matter and most likely has some sort of personal tie with Trutanich. If the author truly were a neutral observer, than he would have mentioned all of Carmen Trutanich�s ethical mishaps as well. It was Trutanich who accepted numerous campaign contributions from various medical marijuana advocates in order fund his own election. Or how the only ones who are really benefiting from Trutanich�s one-man war on medical marijuana are the drug cartels, as their business would soar if all the collectives in Los Angeles were to close. Not to mention how the taxpayers are unwillingly funding this nonsense. If he truly is in it to do what is best for the citizens of Los Angeles, then why doesn�t he go after the cartels instead of legit collectives�..hmmmmm. Despite the fact that 74% (based on latest Poll) of Los Angeles is in disagreement with him, Trutanich continues to press onward perusing an obvious personal vendetta; along with his puppeteer Steve Cooley. Aren�t elected officials supposed to serve the people who elect them? Seems to me that Cooley and Trutanich are subscribing to the Fidel Castro school of thought by ignoring the will of the people and doing what they want to do. Someone needs to remind them that this is a democracy and not a dictatorship. I am appalled that the LA Weekly would publish this in the first place. I guess the corruption of Cooley and Trutanich goes deeper that one might think. I have lost all respect for LA Weekly as have many of my friends and associates. For Shame.

  • MLarsen 12/06/2009 11:33:00 AM

    Max! I thought you Weed-Heads weren't supposed to be clicking on LA Weekly's site anymore! Are you boycott busting? Lenny will disapprove...

  • Farewell Philosophy 12/06/2009 11:32:00 AM

    Jesus. Michael Larsen-- Public Safety Director of Eagle Rock (LOL)-- you truly are a gaping asshole. Lenny/JOV is a cancer survivor which in my humble opinion is something that displays a helluva lot more courage than whatever noble deeds you think you're accomplishing. Stand up and clap for this fucking volunteer piece of shit who believes that he actually matters in the grand scheme of things. Get fucked.

  • Max Farber 12/06/2009 10:37:00 AM

    MLarsen, I believe that was speculation with regards to libertybell, if you could actually find the thread/post where they "reveal" the identity (you imply "Joe") please share. Regardless, even if it is a joke, since when is one person representative of an entire group of individuals that just so happen to share a common bond? Actions by, let's say, a bourbon drinker reflect upon all people who enjoy bourbon? Please say yes. And we're supposed to just believe that's an impersonator because you claim to never use the word ciao? It could just as easily be your "sharp" and "subtle" wit in action or even the truth. Unless you can produce IPs or some semblance of proof then your word means little.

  • Michael Larsen 12/06/2009 10:10:00 AM

    Yes Lenny, we must have compassion, mustn't we? It'll be nice to meet you on Tuesday. Please introduce yourself. I'll be the one who uses his real name and stands up. "Courage" indeed...

  • Yar 12/06/2009 12:53:00 AM

    niggers and wetbacks pushing poison to our kids? you probably wrote that then went and waited in line for your pain pills and your kid's prozac at the pharmacy. gangs don't push weed to collectives you idiots. they are the people waiting for the medical industry to be shut down, so all of us have to run to them on the street again. #13 i seriously hope you die a horrible death.

  • MLarsen 12/05/2009 9:17:00 PM

    For the record, I did not post comment #23 ".......which I will attending alongside you, compatriot! Ciao." First of all, I never use the word "Ciao". Second, the super-clever folks over at the pro-pot website Weedtracker.com have admitted that it was one of their compatriots who has been posting under "libertybell" and "bolts". See "Medical Marijuana Politics/Trutanich Probes Pot Backer Duncan" posts 15 & 16. Don't worry though, they've punished him by docking him "Rep Points". I'm sure the same clever stoned 12yr old who posted the racists crap is the same that has been impersonating me and Patrick M. I'm also convinced that racist remarks were somehow cathartic for Joe, er, the person as they seem to have come from somewhere deep. Well done potheads. Once again you reveal how low you will stoop to fight sensible regulation and push for your true agenda, legalization via the charade of medical marijuana.

  • Nemesis 12/05/2009 8:35:00 AM

    Excellent job LA Weekly. I can understand the comments from potheads who see a good thing coming to an end. I don't fault Duncan for promoting his cause same as all businessmen do. What apalls me is ED REYES, an elected official, who is seeking advice from people other than staff at his disposable ie. the Planning Department and Chief Legislative Analyst office, and of course the City Attorney Office whom he thinks are too stupid for him. If City staff is no good why does he not do something about it. The Councilmember is the one who should be investigated, not Duncan. At the least, he should be removed from the position he holds at PLUM. This city can't afford to have people like him in-charge of quality of life issues.

  • PotHead 12/05/2009 7:58:00 AM

    If Patrick Range McDonald cares to comment, what the hell do you have against marijuana anyways? I mean, really, come on. Is this truly the most pressing quality of life issue in LA? I live in Hollywood where there is the highest concentration of collectives in LA. I wish nothing more than that the City Council would get this off their plate and address the digital billboards and massive super graphics everywhere, the 172 potholes I hit on the way to work, the homeless people the sleep and urinate on the streets, the PCP dealers on hollywood that keep them on the streets, the abandoned foreclosed properties littering the streets, the 100's of liquor licenses all over Hollywood Blvd, the light signals that could really be sync'd, and improving public transportation. But do you know why the City Council can't get to those issues? Because tabloids like the LA Weekly decide that they can't sell ads without ridiculous sensationalism like these articles...

  • scottportraits 12/05/2009 5:41:00 AM

    Trutanich's gotta go. Vote "NO" on Carmen Trutanich at the next election....

  • northeast dude 12/05/2009 4:02:00 AM

    hmm, i've been a critic of LA WEKKLY's new "gotcha" writings, but this has got to be the most straighforward, objective article in LA Weekly that I've seen in a long time. I haven't liked any of your previous articles pat, bc i am aware of true facts and your bias is obvious, but must give credit where credit is due, you've done your homework. now, i don't know about duncan and whether his relationship with that org is verifiable, nonetheless, most of this article is "just the facts" - without the usual "here to prove a point" --usually a shady one, that la weekly has show in the last couple of years.

  • Jackson 12/05/2009 1:56:00 AM

    NOTE TO VOTERS: Eric Garcetti should not be considered for Mayor of this City -- ever. He and his staff have bungled this issue. Allowing the potheads and drug dealers to bring crime into the neighborhoods of Los Angeles is not part of making neighborhoods "livable". Thanks for your incompetence as Council President, Eric.

  • IdiotForger 12/05/2009 12:16:00 AM

    How do we know YOU are the real Don Duncan? I respect your point of view that we have other tools, but where is your sense of humor? Has the weekly stole your ability to laugh? that would be a shame.

  • Donald Duncan 12/04/2009 11:33:00 PM

    The idiot(s) that are writing posts forging Ptrick Range McDonald's name just damage our cause by making it seem we don't have any arguments other than lies forgery and insults. Please cut it out. We have better tools to defend ourselves.

  • Shannon 12/04/2009 11:28:00 PM

    I am shocked by the hatred for dispensaries. Sure, there are many who probably make profit, as in any industry. However, most collectives are here for compassion towards patients. To make it illegal to purchase marijuana is as absurd as making IBprofen illegal to buy. It is medicine, plain and simple, and it helps people. Collectives supply medicine because most patients do not have the funds/time/knowledge to harvest their own medication. I believe more compassion for patients could benefit us all.

  • Patrick MacDonald 12/04/2009 11:21:00 PM

    all you other's are fake I am the real Pat MacDonald and I stand by all the comments that bash the potheads,we don't want your ad dollars anymore, got it!,why else would I write this crap

  • patrick Range McDonald 12/04/2009 10:48:00 PM

    I am the REAL Patrick Range McDonald. The post stating that my previous posts were untrue is a lie posted by my editor to silence my sorrowful voice. Do not believe the hype. I am seriously sorry for my work and will not let the facist regime running the weekly make me write slanderous pieces against my will any longer. Oh no. Here they come. Gotta go. Help me!!!!!!! PRM

  • RobustLust 12/04/2009 10:39:00 PM

    By "robust discussion" do you mean racist and derogatory? Are you satisfied with the public response to your outlandish tale? It seems like you are upset with someone falsifying information about you. Seems like what comes around goes around. These statements are as real and true as the statements you have made in print about movement leaders and city officials. You can stand by whatever you would like, but you should be prepared for the scrutiny that goes along with making such accusations that are unfounded at best and liable at worst. I think the comments made about you were done with toungue-in-cheek, but I can see how some of your less educated and racist supporters could get confused. You are a piece of work, Patty.

  • Patrick Range McDonald 12/04/2009 10:15:00 PM

    Someone has poorly impersonated me in two previous comments. I did not write them, and we ask that person (or persons) to stop it. As always, I stand by my story, and thanks for the robust discussion that's been taking place here. Take care, Patrick

  • Tibby Rothman 12/04/2009 9:57:00 PM

    I am the LA Weekly writer credited with "additional political reporting" for the publication's cover story, and subsequently for this story. None of the information w/in either story substantiates any of commentator libertybell's racist references, whether they are sarcastic or not.

  • Patrick Range McDonald 12/04/2009 8:16:00 PM

    So, I was up all night drinking Wild Turkey and surfing gay porn on the web. I am terribly distraught over my smear pieces and can no longer sleep. It is hard to believe that so many people are upset over a little fudging of the truth and some creative writing. I am just trying to make a living here, folks. The LA Weekly is not the New York Times, but it is a place that wannabe journalists with addiction problems and deviant tendencies can go write whatever they want because the Weekly has fired all of its fact checking staff. Just give me a break. It took a lot of hard work and effort to create all of these wild accusations and deceitful images. Don Duncan is a cute fellow. I suppose I am just upset that he turned me down. If Don promises to take me on a date I will stop writing negative things about him. I promise. Patrick Range McDonald

  • joe blow 12/04/2009 7:45:00 PM

    Dear Patrick and his right wing lynch mob racist supporters, Sarah Palin admitted that she smoked pot. She's from an area in Alaska that is renowned for strong marijuana. Marijuana use is huge in Alaska and the gov up there looks the other way when it comes to enforcement, because it's considered a private issue and not worthy of goverment interferance. So, why not pay attention to your leader Sarah and the policies of the state she comes from? Exactly what is your problem with MMJ? Why are you so out to destroy the only growth industry in Los Angeles? An industry who's product relieves the pain and suffering of thousands of patients. Perhaps you are all just sadistic people and you enjoy inflicting pain on others?

  • LAWLess 12/04/2009 5:04:00 PM

    It is nice you can Laugh A Whole Lot about dragging good people through the mud and getting them "probed" by the City Attorney. All of the attention must make you feel like the bell of the ball, eh? Just remember that karma is a bitch, my friend. Karma is a scorned bitch.

  • In the know 12/04/2009 10:21:00 AM

    I hope that last post from Patrick M. was not really him. Only because the same race haters that hate black and brown people also don't like homosexuals such as the author himself. They might even hate gay people more then blacks and browns, which is tough to do for some, but it is achieved through violence and ignorance. So Patrick, do you still want to take the side of people who wish you dead or on the side of people who use marijuana for whatever reason? If so, then just try and remember Matthew Shepard, I am sure he would help you change your opinion if he were still alive.

  • Patty R. McDonald 12/04/2009 9:40:00 AM

    LAWL

  • Patrick Range McDonald 12/04/2009 9:31:00 AM

    I did not mean to insight this online riot. I suppose it IS dangerous to use my forum as a journalist to spread rumors and unfounded "facts" in my writings. The truth is I have been under a lot of pressure from the city attorney and law enforcement to expose this issue. Don Duncan is a great guy, but Cooley said if I did not write this piece that he would break my legs and I really like my legs the way they are. They help me to walk. I know that there have been a lot of racist remarks on here inspired by my writing. I am glad at least SOMEONE supports my efforts. I would take racist fear-mongering twits over potheads any day. Patrick Range McDonald

  • In The know 12/04/2009 8:30:00 AM

    It seems that the city council is driving a bus that just hit Don Duncan, and the bus is bought by big businesses such as Phillip Morris and Bayer aspirin. Don should always remember that political favors are only a vice that may be used against you by those who gave it to you. LA Weekly doesn't care about a boycott from medical marijuana collectives because it has already been promised larger rates from people with the same type of scruples that you see in their porn adds in the back the police just happen to not see. Trutanich talks about pesticides on marijuana but fails to attempt to eradicate cigarettes or alcohol which combined kill almost 1 million people a year without one person being charged with a crime. Having seen the small group formed called GLACA, I knew that those involved with the power structure of that group were mostly focused on only allowing the 187 pre-ico collectives to operate and close the post ico collectives in whatever way they could. But if the LA weekly really wants to do a story on a collective owner try Marc Kent, http://www.kardoscpa.com/TFP/CBS60.htm who is also responsible for http://losangeleshardshipassociation.org/ I have a feeling the feds are using people like him to gather info and are allowing him to go under radar in the media with puff stories about his collective being put out. I wonder how the media missed this guy, do what you're told much?

  • Abbey Notimpressed 12/04/2009 8:02:00 AM

    Patrick Range McDonald is slime. His passive aggressiveness and ill conceived thoughts can only be appreciated when one is unfortunate enough to be cornered by his bad breath at the Abbey....

  • Rage in My Cage 12/04/2009 7:51:00 AM

    Pat....You're so much more believable when 'Rage-ing' Revelations all around daahling

  • ben 12/04/2009 7:31:00 AM

    I just wiped my ass with the l.a. weekly. thats all its good for.

  • MLarsen 12/04/2009 4:36:00 AM

    "The City Council is to Blame for all of this bullshit and that is all there is to it." Lenny! Finally something we totally agree on. Well said.

  • joe blow 12/04/2009 4:35:00 AM

    The continued onslaught of attack articles from Patrick backing up the Cooley/Trutanich agenda implies that there is something powerful pushing this agenda. I doubt if the LA Weekly is doing this to support ads from MMJ coops, so what is it then? Here's some possibilities: 1. Big Pharma -- they don't make money when patients use MMJ over their drugs 2. Drug Cartels -- more coops mean less people buying on the street 3. Right Wing pressure groups -- ideologues that hate the lack of control they have over a medicinal herb that is easily grown. 4. Law Enforcement -- convictions mean raises and MMJ means they lose an easy source of convictions 5. ? some other interest?

  • Skid Mark 12/04/2009 4:32:00 AM

    Dictionary definition of: Patrick Range McDonald + LA Weekly Patrick Range McDonald + LA Weekly = Something one scrapes off the bottom of ones' shoe

  • Lenny/JOV 12/04/2009 4:21:00 AM

    Mike V............. So you do not need medical marijuana yet you call people who do pot heads? You voted for prop 215? I doubt it. I operated three different collectives (at different times) and I gave medicine free of charge to many aids patients and others. In my first year alone I gave $40,000.00 of medicine away. I agree that there are a lot of people whom are running dispensaries in LA that are in it for the money but to be honest with you most are no lonegr making money and many of the original money grubbers have since moved on leaving behind many patients to fend for themselves. Yours seems to be a self serving agenda in my eyes.I sit here poor as hell with no job,in pain after five years of providing for patients in need.I made nothing as a matter of fact I lost alot of money and not all of it was mine. Why? because the City Council failed to act.........That is why we are where we are at,not because of Don Duncan,not because of sopposed back room meetings,our greedy people either. The Council failed to act even when many patients and providers told them they needed to do something because collectives continued to open they still FAILED to ACT. The City Council is to Blame for all of this bullshit and that is all there is to it.

  • Francisco 12/04/2009 3:47:00 AM

    Mike Vasquez totally hit the nail on the head. I voted for Prop 215 becasue I saw marijuana helped people I knew with AIDS to have an appetite and eat and feel better. (I volunteered for an AIDS charity.) What is happening now is making a mockery of what we voted for. It's all about money, money, money. After listening to these pot advocates, I can tell you they don't care about people with AIDS, they don't care about volunteering, they don't care about helping people. They care about money, money, money. They are pushers, and they are bad news. Hey, Mike Vasquez, why don't you run for Mayor? You make more sense than all of the politicians.

  • Bolts 12/04/2009 3:45:00 AM

    Ha! Even the AIDS infected faggot can see through this little charade. Queers, droopy lipped coons and new age slave labor (read: Mexicans) seem to be in line as the primary audience for "weed" like libertybell (he means well) mentioned. Whites that partake are merely selling their souls, participating in the fracturing of civilization as we know it. They're worthless to me and the movement. Coded language is a tool of the past, and those that indulge in tip-toeing around, merely implying instead of coming out and fucking say it are spineless, self-loathing cunts (MLarsen, that means you). Limp wristed pussies like the aforementioned are just as despicable as the other dregs of society and as such, deserve the same fate.

  • Lenny/JOV 12/04/2009 3:17:00 AM

    Well Michael Larsen it seems that you found a friend here that you can relate with. Let me just point out that these tactics being used by, Nuch/LA Weekly and all of you right wings nut jobs is a "REPEAT" and we are not buying it anymore,ya see I believe that this libertybell guys is some one that you all can relate to only thing is I believe he just baited you morons into showing you Hoods and racist rethoric that you like to mix up into all issue's that do not suit your fancy. The weekly can write all of these bullshit articles that they like from here til the end of time and you racisit,prohibishinist idiots can rant and rave all you like but the law is the law, you can not just interpet the law that you see fit. We will prevail. Your smear campaign on Mr.Duncan is idiotic at best. You folks say that he has access to City hall that none of you have had yet I have attened some Neighborhood Council Meetings where Council Members or thier staff where present and hob knobing with the Neighborhood Council Members and Board. So,You folks besides being all that was written above are LIARS,DECIVERS and full of shit. And to that person that does not understand what it takes to get action from City Council then you just have not paid attention during the last four years, I for one have been to at least ten City Council Meetings alongside 100 or so other MMJ Patients. It seem's that you folks seem to think it is just Don Duncan downtown fighting and that is simply not the case. The "Secret Working Group" was not so secret because it was formed and discussed in City Council Meetings many times (Look it up yoiu idiots) had you ignjorant folkks paid any attention you would have know this. Had theW eekly done the simple homework of watching the videos of City Council Meetings online regarding Medical Marijuana they would have known this to be fact (No Secret) Thgis is a simple case of right wing nutjobs attempting to use lies and deciect to get their results. It is kind of like getting mad at your wife because the food is cold when you are three hours late. Quick speading bullshit because you ignorant folks where late to dinner. It is your fault that you where not involved and not because you where not wanted but because you just not paying attention. Bottom line is this: people need this medicine and whether you like it or not it is medicine and was and has been for Centuires. The People of the State of California voted that those in need should have access to it. Some of us are nopt healthy enough to grow it,some of us can not afford the startup of a grow,some of us have no space to grow. So how the hell do you expect us top get it? In pill form made by the same Big Pharma Drug Dealers that you buy from? Well,Guess what I did that! I had marinol and you know what not only was it impossible for me to function on it was also way more expensive then just buying Medical Cannabis in its natural form. Now I believe that as an American whom is sick I have the right to decide what I put in my body as you have the same right. Please I beg of you folks do not hinder my rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Mike Vasquez 12/04/2009 2:38:00 AM

    While Don Duncan is a nice guy, let's face it, he's got his fingers in regulation because the very proliferation of the "medical marijuana" locations is hurting his monopoly. Period. Take the profit out of "collectives" and see how many of these so called activists show up at the next council meeting. If I were making sometimes $10,000 a day CASH (generally) I'd be fighting tooth and nail to protect that kind of income! Get real. I am HIV positive and have used Medical Marijuana for medical reasons. All of you so called Collective owners should thank the AIDS ACTIVISTS that died fighting for Marijuana to be distributed to people like myself. Without the AIDS/HIV movement we would not be where we are today on this issue period. I am 18 years positive with HIV and THANKFULLY I don't need Medical Marijuana anymore and only take one pill a day that causes no side effects. How bout our city "officials" get back to the MEDICINAL NEED for access to this drug, validate and permit those businesses, require background checks on owners, force them to post security bonds, and get everyone to play by the rules like most of us do day in and day out in society. I was at the last LA City Council meeting and it was a room filled with pot head wanna bees yelling, screaming and tantrumming because their profits were set to evaporate. Not a one showed true "compassion" about why people like Koretz backed the original legislation to begin with. People tell me, how many of these so called "rogue" pot stores want HIV/AIDS patients hanging around their store fronts? They don't! That could be bad for business ;) All you "pro pot" hypocrites are just money hungry white collar drug dealers using people's plight like mine to make a profit, period. Bravo to the weekly for this piece. But you are missing one big piece of the pie, the bogus doctor network that has been created. I have seen NOTHING in the "ordinance" on whose going to "regulate" them. Anyone have an estimate on how many "patients" there are out there with "recommendations'? That number must be in the....

  • Mike Vasquez 12/04/2009 2:38:00 AM

    While Don Duncan is a nice guy, let's face it, he's got his fingers in regulation because the very proliferation of the "medical marijuana" locations is hurting his monopoly. Period. Take the profit out of "collectives" and see how many of these so called activists show up at the next council meeting. If I were making sometimes $10,000 a day CASH (generally) I'd be fighting tooth and nail to protect that kind of income! Get real. I am HIV positive and have used Medical Marijuana for medical reasons. All of you so called Collective owners should thank the AIDS ACTIVISTS that died fighting for Marijuana to be distributed to people like myself. Without the AIDS/HIV movement we would not be where we are today on this issue period. I am 18 years positive with HIV and THANKFULLY I don't need Medical Marijuana anymore and only take one pill a day that causes no side effects. How bout our city "officials" get back to the MEDICINAL NEED for access to this drug, validate and permit those businesses, require background checks on owners, force them to post security bonds, and get everyone to play by the rules like most of us do day in and day out in society. I was at the last LA City Council meeting and it was a room filled with pot head wanna bees yelling, screaming and tantrumming because their profits were set to evaporate. Not a one showed true "compassion" about why people like Koretz backed the original legislation to begin with. People tell me, how many of these so called "rogue" pot stores want HIV/AIDS patients hanging around their store fronts? They don't! That could be bad for business ;) All you "pro pot" hypocrites are just money hungry white collar drug dealers using people's plight like mine to make a profit, period. Bravo to the weekly for this piece. But you are missing one big piece of the pie, the bogus doctor network that has been created. I have seen NOTHING in the "ordinance" on whose going to "regulate" them. Anyone have an estimate on how many "patients" there are out there with "recommendations'? That number must be in the....

  • sdbudz 12/04/2009 2:05:00 AM

    nice job pat mac you brought out the the bible belt, racist, rednecks to the debate,this is how you spell you all, in your language:Y'all

  • libertybell 12/04/2009 1:14:00 AM

    mexicans stepping up but anyways yes reyes should be in jail he's a TERRORIST terrorzing the community and should be just fucking locked up no trial.and tp u idiot cant compare guns to poison so keep your fucking hands off im entitled to protect my life and liberty. weed you dont need its a poison like i said if need to feel good just fucking drink a beer or smoke a cig and stop poisoning the communioty.

  • libertybell 12/04/2009 1:06:00 AM

    goddamn another spic steps up to speak against this madness. good work manuel we need more like you not afraid to sell out a fellow wetback for the good of the USA. its obvious reyes is mexican mafia the plan is in motion too bad its about to crash and burn they seel to fucking 5 year old kids and thats finished shit doesnt even have medical benefits i bet all of those sick COUGH fuckers are faking just to get high and kill braincells and bring this country into the fucking hole even more

  • Hector R 12/04/2009 1:02:00 AM

    Ed Reyes should be in jail. He has been bought and paid for by the pot dealers.

  • Manuel in CD1 12/04/2009 12:43:00 AM

    Kris Hermes from Oakland writes "What do advocates do when they want to influence a piece of legislation? They meet with elected officials, aggressively push their agenda, and hope their arguments influence decision-makers." Wrong Kris - that's not the way it works in Los Angeles. Concerned citizens NEVER get ANY access to councilmembers in Los Angeles unless they bring their EXPENSIVE lobbyist (e.g. Latham & Watkins) or they have some other FINANCIAL arrangement to funnel lots of money into the Councilmember's campaign coffers. I know of an organization that wanted access to Ed Reyes. They had to organize a fundraiser, and deliver many thousands of dollars, just to be heard. After that they were ignored - I'm pretty sure the other side of that issue had a bigger fundraiser. How did Don Duncan get his unprecedented access to Councilman Reyes? Seems pretty obvious to me.

  • TP 12/04/2009 12:32:00 AM

    Interesting how some commenters here in favor of banning medicinal marijuana can't hide their disdain for Mexican Americans. Anti-Immigrant, ant-weed yet PRO - FREEDOM. Send people to jail for possession of marijuana but tell them cops to keep their paws off our AK-47s. Pat McD is in the same boat. After writing a series of articles against Prop 8 and how it's a violation of people's civil rights he turns the tables on medicinal marijuana patients. Such a tired tough-guy act.

  • libertybell 12/04/2009 12:22:00 AM

    what the fuck if thats an insult than go fuck yourself

  • MLarsen 12/04/2009 12:20:00 AM

    ...which I will attending alongside you, compatriot! Ciao.

  • MLarsen 12/04/2009 12:18:00 AM

    The dry cleaners called and said your sheet and hood would be ready for next week's Council meeting...

  • libertybell 12/04/2009 12:03:00 AM

    im not even being sarcastic im just fucking fed up with the bullshit and this rotting city and country being dragged down the tubes by drugs and crime like you are. your welcome i guess

  • MLarsen 12/03/2009 11:59:00 PM

    Thanks for the shout out LibertyBell. BTW, the best kind of sarcasm is subtle, you should try to reign it in a bit... Hilarious otherwise.

  • ForReal? 12/03/2009 11:56:00 PM

    Um, South Carolina is about 2500 miles east of here you racist fuck.

  • Mickey Martin 12/03/2009 11:49:00 PM

    Ahhhh, racism and ignorance all in one short list of comments. Inspiring really. I am sure cancer patients are thrilled about your ideas to make them go home from their chemo appointment, but a $1000 cultivation system, and wait four months for some medicine...if they are lucky enough to figure it out on the first time trying. Get real. Collective serve a wonderful purpose in the community and it is short-sighted to use racism and bias to make ill-conceived points about subjects you obviously know little about. Some education for you: Incremental reimbursements for the cost and service of providing medicine are legal, whether they are characterized as sales, over-the-counter sales, donations, or reimbursements. California Health and Safety Code Section 11362.775 states that qualified patients and their primary caregivers �who associate within the State of California in order collectively or cooperatively to cultivate marijuana for medical purposes, shall not solely on the basis of that fact be subject to state criminal sanctions under Section 11357, 11358, 11359, 11360, 11366, 11366.5, or 11570.� Thus, the possession (Section 11357), possession for sale (Section 11359), and cultivation of cannabis (Section 11358) within the context of a collective or cooperative medical cannabis association is lawful. This interpretation is consistent with the decisions in County of Butte v. Superior Court of Butte County, People v. Newcomb et al., and People v. Urziceanu.

  • libertybell 12/03/2009 11:49:00 PM

    mlarsen is another true patriot fighting to keep the niggers and wetbacks from pushing their drugs he said it himself drugs and fear of retaliashun keep most whites from opening up luckily i have no fear. mlarsen can see the harm that these stoned black and brown fucks do to our communities. SALUTE!

  • Sdbudz 12/03/2009 11:45:00 PM

    He could be correct about Don and his motives Don admits he does not use MMJ, harborside in oakland is the only club that opposes increasing the current limit of 4 clubs, if Don does not want more than 4 clubs in oakland and hollywood, he is pushing for less clubs everywhere and regulation that benefits him and his many roads into MMJ,he said he quit smoking pot because he couln't get any pussy when he was stoned

  • libertybell 12/03/2009 11:45:00 PM

    arturo youre one of the good ones dont see many spics standing up to fight this madness. THE FEDERAL GOVT NEEDS TO STEP IN NOW THIS DRUG KILLS ITS ILLEGEAL. ed reyes workas for the mexican mafia how can he not with a name like that. trutnich is a HERO he fights for justice and freedom and preserving the american way. THIS IS AMERICA keep your drugs on your own side of the fucking border you fucking scumbags.

  • MLarsen 12/03/2009 11:45:00 PM

    Thanks for staying on this LA Weekly. You are providing a voice for a majority of Angelenos who have been silenced by the fear of criminal reprisals from drug dealers or drowned out by the badgering, hysterical shrieking coming from the Big Pot lobby. Keep it up!

  • libertybell 12/03/2009 11:36:00 PM

    pat you are a true patriot this don duncan character is a fucking drug lord hes running this whole show working with the wetbacks and niggers to push this poison to our kids! what are the wetbacks going to do when they cant sell their drugs to dispensaries i smell colllapse time to take los angeles back.

  • Wendy 12/03/2009 11:21:00 PM

    Finally! Someone doing some real reporting! Awesome job! Hopefully the city council will finally wake up, get off their collective butts and enforce the law. What folks lobbying for 'dispensaries' don't understand is the law states very clearly, and is supported by recent court decisions, that the sale of pot is illegal - period. However, this will not hinder a true patient/caregiver to grow their own. It's how the law was written. It's what the people voted for. Even the author of Prop 215 stated in a public forum that the problem we are facing in L.A. is NOT what they intended. Unfortunately, opportunists like Don Duncan are bending and twisting the law to create an environment where pot is for sale on every corner. And shame on them for using sick people to do it!

  • Scott 12/03/2009 11:14:00 PM

    Excellent article. Finally the facts are coming to light. Thanks for your outstanding reporting! Keep up the good work.

  • Scott 12/03/2009 11:10:00 PM

    The true count of pot stores is drastically higher. The number mentioned in the article only accounts for those actually going through the hardship exemption process. There are 100s of pot stores who have not. Our area has 17 pot stores. Only 6 of them have submitted hardship applications. If this is true across the city then the actual number is approximately 250% higher.

  • Arturo 12/03/2009 11:06:00 PM

    Great investigative reporting! We are lucky you folks at the Weekly are doing this, because the LA Times has totally missed the boat on this problem, along with so many other things happening in our city. And why isn't the federal government investigating this scandal? A drug dealer has been writing legislation for City Council members - isn't that against the law? Where are the good-government types when we need them? And why isn't Ed Reyes in jail for this?

 

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