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Who the fuck is the L.A. Weekly? How the fuck are you going to TAKE thousands of dollars per month from these collectives to run their advertisements, and then turn around and print this bullshit. You dirty fucks are the reason that our small, peaceful community has such a bad public image. It's not the fault of the general public that the FDA and federal government approve more "socially acceptable" drugs for identical conditions; and nobody notices that these medicines are...... METH, HEROIN, and not to mention the myriad of other disgusting artificial chemicals which have been proven to cause fatal side effects, psychosis, and ill health. L.A. Weekly, enjoy the loss of revenue from collectives' advertising, and if all of you fucks would just jump out your office window please. Thank you.
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Duncan is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
MMJ Med Head, give me your money for toxic rank buds.
Grow your own, that way you know it is clean. Otherwise....
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Mrs. Martha Johanson 12/22/2009 8:29:00 AM
i have bone cancer, it is as though my body is going to cave inside me.
my treatments help, but marijuana agrees more with my system and ideology.
How can you call people who would rather take a plant, than drop far too much money on pharm meds - how can you call us potheads.
Something else. Who are YOU to say who's ailments are bad enough to cross from Patient to Pothead. Many people use it for tension, to mellow out. Is that so bad, or would you prefer they drop a bunch of cash for meds with side effects. All you people get your judgement out of others lives. ENOUGH
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kevin simms 12/16/2009 3:12:00 PM
you are some gullible journalists, if you can be called that. You took every trick the DA and City Attorney have been using to bad mouth Marijuana and plastered them in your article. The pesticide, the violence, etc...like there would be no violence in LA if it weren't for Medical Marijuana dispensaries.
There is probably more pesticide on the tomatoes I buy - and how can you trust our DA and CA?
I have no faith in the words of our DA or City Attorney, they have proven to speak with fork tongues - 1000 dispensaries they said, you counted 500 -
and a host of other half truths and out and out lies,
yet you then print their other findings in your article as if it were scripture.
I agree with now you have to do another article which is pro Medical Marijuana since this was obviously a hatchet piece practically written by the opposition. you even demonized a prominent MM activist. Time for someone to start a new publication to compete with yours, after this crap reporting, people will flock to a new publication. You are a disservice to the public you serve.
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Will 12/16/2009 3:00:00 PM
Backwards LA Weekly, who puts the last comments last? ??
Something you could learn from Huff Post and everyone else.
They go first, to keep the comments fresh you dummies.
When I heard the LA Weekly was going to chime in on the
subject, i looked forward to the kind of reporting that would
be welcome to your demographic - forward thinking, progressive
and willing to fight city hall. Boy was I wrong. You guys
really blew it. Big time. Bye LA Weakly, you have become
irrelevant.
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claire 12/16/2009 2:53:00 PM
You left out some major points...ie...the Compassionate Use Act distinctly says that Marijuana should be available for 'AFFORDABLE DISTRIBUTION', which means sales. Cooley and Trutanich never mention that part, and have done a good job snowing everyone into believing their 'interpretation' of the law.
Didn't mention that many feel Cooley is corrupt and his special interest catering is second to none. Or that Trutanich was brought in by Cooley to help him clean up a mess that happening under his watch...
Or that 77% of people in a poll taken by nuetral research company Mason-Dixon said they want dispensaries regulated, not closed. 54% said they want Marijuana legalized. So basically, you are siding with those who ignore the will of the majority. You missed valid points which would have made your article less ONE SIDED. And you call yourself a credible newspaper? You have become the Fox News of papers. When I see a stack of LA Weekly's they will end up in a dumpster. I urge everyone to do the same.
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amber t 12/16/2009 2:43:00 PM
When I was in high school, I never had a problem scoring pot...why do people act like Medical Marijuana is going to destroy our children. Lighten up people and stop using 'the children' as a reason to validate your outdated ideology about Marijuana. Go drink a scotch or something and chill out. The hypocrisy continues.
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serge 12/16/2009 2:38:00 PM
You have lost a reader and advertiser.
I went to a Council meeting regarding this issue. There were 300 people in the room. 99% were FOR Medical Marijuana, you decide to interview and feature the Eagle Rock guys and the Mid Wilshire guy.
I find it ironic that YOU seem to be the one listening to the wrong people.
You have betrayed your community Patrick.
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David Langly 12/16/2009 2:13:00 PM
LA WEEKLY - aren't you supposed to be the paper of the people? A fresh alternative to the corporate news? I was shocked and disturbed by this
article - did Steve Cooley pay for it or something?
How one sided, conservative, slanted and right wing can you get??? Patrick, how could you do this?
I have lost respect for the LA Weekly and will be calling the top brass at Village Voice Media to see how this travesty happened. Thanks alot guys, for helping to ruin the lives of innocent people who opened up shops.
Now that you've done this ANTI Marijuana piece, maybe you'd consider doing a pro piece...after all, you are the LA Weekly, paper of the people. Or has something changed?
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rod mastar 12/15/2009 3:04:00 PM
They all need to get a handle or control with their accountability why i am on a mission as a programmer, coder creating CCCCd will completely blow you away... a Busware for dispensaries to account for everything running their business.
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Voice 12/13/2009 10:53:00 PM
The City Council is nothing but a bunch clueless dolts, managed by their campaign donors.
Now this clown Kerkorian is in, good grief.
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Michael Larsen 12/11/2009 2:01:00 AM
Once AGAIN, I didn't write #126.
I don't think the dispensaries are the cause of all crime, and I happen to think Zine is a duffus.
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Mlarson 12/11/2009 1:32:00 AM
The LA weekly has only the highest journalistic standards. Unlike the huffington post which can not be trusted. Just look at their latest piece.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vince-beiser/emla-weeklyems-medical-po_b_374448.html
Why should we care if patrick range Mcdonald made up the story, we must shut down these medical collectives. Once they are all shut down, crime will be eliminated in Los Angeles.
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Angus 12/10/2009 7:56:00 PM
Scheming opportunists have turned this medical marijuana law into a travesty. I live within one block of seven of these facilities. SEVEN! I can't imagine there are that many legitimately ill people in this area that warrant such an incredibly high number of pot shops. Also, the people I see coming in and out of these establishments seem surprisingly young and spry. (Hey, maybe pot has rejuvenating capabilities!) I have no problem with one or two of these clinics operating nearby but seven in a one-block radius (do we really need 'em all?) Because these shops mostly deal in cash (for whatever reason), they tend to attract criminal elements. If robbers don't find a sufficient amount of cash at these shops they will rob nearby homes and businesses. You've got to admit, until pot is completely legal, some regulation is going to be required to ensure that it is being dispensed to the letter (and intent) of the law. Thank God for Councilman Zine and other intelligent members of the City Council who are trying to make some sense of this.
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deborah 12/07/2009 3:46:00 PM
This is LA WEEKLY, you take ad dollars from this community every week and now you print this slipshod, biased article?
Among many of the questionable facts presented as facts, On page 8, where are you getting your justification and backup mathmatics for the statement that 100 plants produce 200 pounds of medical marijuana in a house in the valley????
Promoting a clampdown on medical marijuana availability will only depress a dreadful commercial real estate situation currently in l.a.... Hundreds of landlords will have large empty retail spaces to add to the already bleak commercial retail locations.
If 353 people (your article quote) are currently visiting 1 collective in 1 day, where will that patient base go when hundreds of collective's are forced to close after they were given permission to open.
Where will the funds come from Los Angeles to defend the hundreds of valid hardship future lawsuits?
Why did Carmen Trutanich embrace the endorsement and financial contributions from GLACA (leading collective's advocacy group) and then throw them under the bus after he got into office?
R u having lunches and meetings with Carmen Trutanich or David Berger?
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D 12/07/2009 4:38:00 AM
Don Duncan is a thief! How can you idiots not see what he does. He acts like he is for patients rights but really fights to secure his collectives and interests. He donates his "profits" to ASA which he is a director of; pays himself a salary............cmon guys he is the director of LAPCG and pays himself a salary! He is actually not even donating to real causes. He is donating to himself! He gives the rest to pay off city officials.
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JEC 12/07/2009 1:35:00 AM
I think its ironic how critical this article is about the proliferation of pot shops...as any reader of the LA Weekly will know, its classified ads are FILLED with advertisements from said shops. LA Weekly depends on pot shop advertising revenue to stay afloat/pay these writers salaries. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you! Hypocrites.
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Cpl_Urge 12/06/2009 4:01:00 AM
We all agree that regulation of Medical Marijuana dispensaries is necessary but this witch hunt by ill-meaning characters who have no regard for the medical needs of others is selfish and uninformed.
Why should alcohol users have the right to purchase their drug freely at what they call "Liquor stores"? Why are alcohol users, and addicts allowed to purchase and consume their drug in places labeled "bars, cafes, clubs, beer-stands...etc.,etc.,etc."?
Alcohol users and addicts are responsible for many driving-related deaths, innumerable broken families due to abuse and/or bankruptcy, and severe medical complications related to the intake of this very dangerous and highly addictive degenerative drug, and in most cases death.
When the beneficial aspects of cannabis are compared to those of alcohol, the result overwhelmingly shows that the medical applications of marijuana far exceed that of booze or pharmaceuticals.
Alcohol users ("drinkers") do not have to purchase their drug in dark alleys, exposed to robbery and other crimes. They do not purchase alcohol from the same person that sells crack, heroin, etc., and they do not fear prosecution.
There are laws in place for DUI, loitering, public consumption of intoxicants, laws, laws, laws...... So, the thought that medical marijuana dispensaries create crime is a huge misrepresentation of facts (what about all the prostitution, panhandling, and alcohol-related crimes around places where alcohol is dispensed, and consumed?).
Marijuana consumption is viewed as a very real threat to manufacturers of alcohol and anti-depressants because cannabis has highly effective pain and nausea relieving properties; it's vasodilating properties help with migraines, cataracts, glaucoma, relieves stress without psychotic side effects, etc., etc., etc.
The fact is that Alcohol and Pharmaceutical companies have lots of money, and since we have the best legislators "that money can buy", it seems like a perfect match. They all get rich and the citizens, who pay for their ridiculously high salaries and perks, have very little of their attention.
The days of prohibition are over and as long as one does not infringe on other people's rights or property, the freedom to pursue individual happiness must be guaranteed and no one can have the right to regulate how anyone chooses to medicate or recreate.
At last count, how many alcohol dispensing facilities were there in LA county?
Let's regulate marijuana like we do alcohol and as long as the dispensary is licensed, pays taxes and works under the prescription of a doctor they should have he right to operate, and as Chief Bratton said, "The LAPD has the obligation to protect them.
People like Villaraigosa are of little importance, their attention is focused on the next photo op and the real work at hand is neglected in favor of their selfish ends. Can you believe that this character, Villaraigosa, is actually thinking that anyone is going to be in favor of his candidacy to the Governor's seat? (The only one that will be voting this way will be the mayors of the Mexican cities that he has sucking-up-to.
Last count LA had generated close to forty six million dollars from the "sales" of marijuana. If we utilize this money and cut our legislators' salaries (at the very least take away their perks), we might be able to afford new books for our school children and libraries.
Peace.
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seba 12/05/2009 1:50:00 PM
who gives a fuck what L.A. weekly says its a free paper... they have to pay to get it out.... and half their ad revenues dont come from pot dispensaries, they come from "massage parlors" which i guess they have no problem with...........
anyway i dont know shit about weedtracker but FUCK L.A. WEEKLY.
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Tommy Smalls 12/05/2009 2:23:00 AM
It's to bad DDD never gave you the time are day Patrick,, after bugging and begging for an interview. I guess this is the way to get back at one. Your article is full of s*@t. Stop hating and slander Don Duncan. LA Weekly just hit rock bottom. Your magazine does nothing else but advertise medical marijuana, prostitution and publish poorly written and terribly researched articles, so to take this into serious concerderation is a joke and I hope all your readers understand that.........Patrick," leave a message and will get right back at you."(remember them words Patrick). Your a clown dude
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In the know 12/04/2009 11:42:00 AM
It seems that the city council is driving a bus that just hit Don Duncan, and the bus is bought by big businesses such as Phillip Morris and Bayer aspirin. Don should always remember that political favors are only a vice that may be used against you by those who gave it to you.
LA Weekly doesn't care about a boycott from medical marijuana collectives because it has already been promised larger rates from people with the same type of scruples that you see in their porn adds in the back the police just happen to not see. Trutanich talks about pesticides on marijuana but fails to attempt to eradicate cigarettes or alcohol which combined kill almost 1 million people a year without one person being charged with a crime.
Having seen the small group formed called GLACA, I knew that those involved with the power structure of that group were mostly focused on only allowing the 187 pre-ico collectives to operate and close the post ico collectives in whatever way they could.
But if the LA weekly really wants to do a story on a collective owner try Marc Kent, http://www.kardoscpa.com/TFP/CBS60.htm who is also responsible for http://losangeleshardshipassociation.org/
I have a feeling the feds are using people like him to gather info and are allowing him to go under radar in the media with puff stories about his collective being put out. I wonder how the media missed this guy, do what you're told much?
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Samuel Hernandez 12/03/2009 12:59:00 AM
People are going to do whatever they can to survive. In this instance. We see that some do so by taking advantage of others, sick or no. But those who live in their hearts and see the pain and suffering of others will do what they can to help. And they will not be greedy, and they will not steal and lie. And politicians are often asked to do these things. We come to a place that is not unfamiliar.. We ask our leaders to do what is right by the majority, what is right by the informed, what is right by those in need. We ask those reporting to leave their bias at the door and not refer to cannabis by it's filthy street name 'dope' or 'reefer' or 'pot' because it's medicine. Weather you like it or not. If you've done the research, you will realize, IT IS MEDICINE. It was created of nature and evolution and for that reason, we have no right to deride it's existence or regulate it's growth. Cannabis is not like heroin or cocaine or meth. It grows up out of the earth and has shown no propensity to permanently detriment anyone. Many individuals use cannabis on a daily or regular basis and they are not in danger of losing their minds any more than the rest of you. We are all trapped in our own bodies and whatever we can do to ease this pain is useful to us. Who was ordained the right to tell another human that they must endure their suffering and disallow the use of available medicine? Who said medicine was created in a lab somewhere and nowhere else? You people need to take a step back, out of your quagmire of political jargon, and look at this issue blankly for what it is. People, with a high high HIGH, demand for cannabis. And other people attempting to satisfy that demand. Grocery stores provide us with an array of prices for similar products and they've been through tough times.. The only difference is societal disapproval of supposed 'drug' use. That is the ONLY difference.
We cannot be compared to any other place because Los Angeles is unlike any other place. We're not even sure of the population here.
You shouldn't need to be dying to feel good.
Cannabis is MEDICINE. We agreed on this once, it seems some of us have forgotten.
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MMJGrower 12/03/2009 12:39:00 AM
As a marijuana grower for over 20 years, I am deeply offended by this Fox News-style hit piece. The article trots out the same old tired media stereotypes: Bad marijuana! Bad "potheads"! Oh dear, the "Children" are smoking weed! Organized crime might be involved!! Well guess what? The MMJ dispensary movement is the BEST thing to ever happen to this industry (and it IS an industry...whether we allow it above-ground or force it back under, it will remain as such). People (99% of whom are responsible users) can now purchase marijuana in a SAFE, regulated environment, free from police hassles and gang BS, more secure than the so-called "back alleys" etc. But oh noooo! Someone is "making a profit"! For shame! We should all just donate our effing time and effort I suppose, right? Come on, be real! Who is really being injured or killed by this industry anyway? Where are the crazed, pot-addled drivers killing people every day?? Oh sorry, that's ALCOHOL. NO ONE is being hurt by marijuana, except those BUSTED by the cops and imprisoned, or those who need it for medical reasons who are forced to deal with "back alley" dealers. LA Weekly staff : you KNOW that MOST of you smoke weed (and I BET is isn't for "medical" reasons!) Why the negative stereotyping and hyperbole???? I guess the LA Weekly just proved - once again - that it's worth every penny it costs....
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Reyes 12/02/2009 10:45:00 PM
Michael Levitt says he "find it odd that LA Weekly happily takes the money of Medical Marijuana Dispensaries for advertising, yet prints this ... article."
Other people find it odd that the Los Angeles Times takes money from the Billboard Industry and doesn't print negative articles about them.
It's refreshing to have evidence that the Weekly's business office does not tell the writers what they can or cannot write, and the writers don't tell the business office what it can or cannot sell.
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Michael Levitt 12/02/2009 9:28:00 PM
I find it odd that LA Weekly happily takes the money of Medical Marijuana Dispensaries for advertising, yet prints this foolish article. Don't worry I'll still pick up LA Weekly each week (to line my birdcage).
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Michael Levitt 12/02/2009 9:28:00 PM
I find it odd that LA Weekly happily takes the money of Medical Marijuana Dispensaries for advertising, yet prints this foolish article. Don't worry I'll still pick up LA Weekly each week (to line my birdcage).
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Jacob 12/02/2009 11:25:00 AM
Ruben I am sorry that may have had a bad experience around a collective. Collectives are fully legal, they pay their taxes and serve the sick. You need to leave your reefer madness behind, this is 2009 and California voters passed proposition 215. If you dont like it, I may suggest moving to a city that does not allow collectives. I really hope that the city council does not reduce the number of collectives as this Collectives serve sick patients period. Please show some compassion for the sick, and stop making generalizations which only make you look bad.
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Ruben 12/02/2009 6:08:00 AM
Isn't it interesting that many of the people commenting here about how great dispensaries are just happen to live in cities that completely ban dispensaries - like Lancaster, Santa Monica, Rosemead, etc. Apparently these people want to drive over to our LA neighborhoods and turn them into "drug supermarkets" that serve their suburban areas. Then they can drive home to do their drugs, and leave us in LA to clean up the mess. We've seen this before. We saw what happened to downtown LA when it became known as the place to buy heroin, and MacArthur Park when it became known as the place to buy crack, and South Central when it became known as the place to buy anything. Those neighborhoods were devastated, and it's taken them decades to even start coming back. So, NO THANKS to you suburban druggies. If you want to buy pot, then convince your own cities to allow dispensaries. We are not going to let you destroy our neighborhoods just so that you have a convenient place to get your fix.
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Ximena in Hollywood 12/02/2009 2:59:00 AM
Thank you LA Weekly! Excellent article, now I finally understand how LA got into this disaster. Anyone who lives near these "medical" pot shops can tell you that they are nothing more than fronts for sleazy drug dealers. I voted for Prop 215 to help people with cancer and AIDS - not so that drug dens could open near my home and bring in young jerks who scream about how much they love "legal weed" while they smoke in front of my kids. And to those people defending these places: unless you live near one, you have no idea what's going on. Those of us who do live near one know - they are a complete crock of.....
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Eadred 12/01/2009 11:41:00 PM
The Weekly showed great courage investigating the weed industry. That it provoked such reactionary responses from such "progressive" readers is to its credit. Keep up the good work!
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thomas 12/01/2009 9:07:00 PM
i am no longer going to pick up the la weekly. time to go back to sgv tribune and la times.
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MLarsen 12/01/2009 8:03:00 PM
POTHEAD
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leland Cole 12/01/2009 2:28:00 PM
Cannabis Politics Causes Short Term Memory Loss
Recently in British Colombia, the New Democratic Party had their Convention Guide printed, but somehow "forgot" to include an advert submitted by Canadian politician Dana Larsen. An advert he submitted on behalf of the pro -cannabis group, End Prohibition. When asked about this the convention guide director said,"its still sitting in my in box". He just "forgot", he said.
Sure he did.
Mr. Larsen recently held office in the BC NDP, someone the party is well aware of, and yet they "forgot" to place his advert? Funny thing, how just before big political campaigns, those seeking office do all sorts of odd things, and certainly 'forgetting' is one of them.
Here in the United States, we have an ex Mayor of Oakland , who is now the State of California Attorney General, who has high hopes to soon be running the entire State of California, as he did once before.
While Mr. Brown was Mayor of Oakland, full service cannabis patient dispensaries of the very finest quality, operated in his city. Everyday they collected money as part of their daily operations. This has always been the reality, no profits were ever made, but cash flow has always been part of such operations, since the very beginning. As a matter of fact, even before 215 was passed into law, movement dispensaries that already existed required cash flow. As the California Attorney General, Mr. Brown has stated that coops would be allowed , but even they have cash flow as part of their operations.
And yet Mr. Brown now says that (sic) "Sales" in these places will always be unlawful, and is using this 'myth of profits', as a stepping stone to support those persons presently attempting to close these lawful entities down. People that could be very helpful to Mr. Brown in his upcoming election bid.
Like any profit or nonprofit, or not-for-profit organization operating in the Great State of California, cash flow is a necessity, or you simply cannot exist. Yet Mr. Brown has somehow 'forgotten' this? This could be some sort of short term memory loss Mr. Brown is suffering from? Perhaps after the election is over, he will regain his memory?
Leland Cole,
"Grand Spook of Lower Bohemia"
William S. Burroughs 1989
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Patrick Range McDonald 12/01/2009 1:51:00 PM
Thanks again for more of your comments. After reading many of them, I couldn't help but think of that old, famous line by Shakespeare: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
Patrick Range McDonald
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Lenny/Justonevoice 12/01/2009 12:06:00 PM
MLarsen,
We have already heard you childish attritude and are not really that interested in what you have to say,wehter you post as eaglerock or Mlarsen does not really matter you are irrelevent as long as you keep up that childish behavior.
To those seriour and compassionate people whom really care about thier neighborhood I would ask that you do get involved and that you keep an open mind and let the facts tell the truth.
Do not blame those whom desire to bring this medicine to those whom really need it, do not blame those folks for the action of Doctors within our medical system whom prey on the all mighty dollar,do not blame them for the in-action of our incompedent City Council and thier lack of action.
What many of you do not realize is that many of us told the City Council that something needed to be done about the over-prolification of MMJ Outlets was happening even though there was an active ICO,we warned them over the outcome,we did not want this outcome. Prior to 02-07 How much did you all know about MMJ and the fact that there was even 1 MMJ dispensary in Los Angles? Not many folks that where not in need even had a clue,Do you know why? Becuase the collectives that operated prior to that understood good neighbor principles and operated without problems and complaints from neighbors,thats why!
Truth be told this is 100% the fault of the inaction of our city government.
Please do not blame those whom are sick,those whom choose to serve those whom are sick with a sicere desire to help thier fellow mankind. Blame those whom did not act to stop what was happening,whom did not grasp what they where being told by those whom knew best,blame those whom seek to profit the most the doctors whom stand the least risk,whom you must blame for the 18 year old kid whom seem to have not a damn thing wrong with hin,Blame the Doctors and the City Council for thier deds or the lack thereof not those whom really need this medicine!Not those whom really bring this medicine to those in need with the purest intentions of the heart!
AND QUIT CALLING US ALL POTHEADS because that is to me as bad as the "N"word and we are just not gonna take that bullshit anymore!
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human 12/01/2009 6:50:00 AM
Here is an idea:
LEGALIZE IT, TAX IT, AND REGULATE IT!!!
Alll of the problems described in this article, biased or not, can be solved!
Why is it that this country can regulate alcohol, cigarettes, all the pharmaceutical drugs in the world but not MJ??!!
...the only reasons I can think of are politics & money!
Wake up America! there are a lot of people making lots and lots of money from the prohibition of MJ!
..and its not like we should try to get the illegal guns or gangsters or real harmful drugs off the streets right? Since MJ is the root cause of all the evil in our city, all the crime will stop once the dispensaries are closed right?? .. HAH!
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Pleezer 12/01/2009 5:12:00 AM
With more than a dozen dispensaries within a mile of my house, yes, we're feeling it. The thing I didn't get from your article was, either the city council is unbelievably clueless as to what's happening in their own neighborhoods. Plus, unlike politicians from time immemorial, they would have to have no idea that so much money is changing hands because of their cluelessness.
Or... something else.
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M.T.F. 12/01/2009 2:27:00 AM
Your magazine does nothing else but advertise medical marijuana, prostitution and publish poorly written and terribly researched articles. On top of that, the physical nature of your magazine is also shit. Worst ink available from the printers, WORST. Any printing & binding company can attest to the poor physical quality of your ink and paper. With all the money you make by conning medical marijuana clubs you should be able to at least print your hypocritical rubbish in some acceptable ink. Yes, I said conning. As a business and a magazine you were paid and trusted by those businesses with the task to print their ad in an understanding that the ad will promote and encourage patients to use their services. Instead you took their money and published some very bias nonsense that clearly was not researched fully. In doing so you potentially drove away new patients who would actually benefit from their medical services. Had your article been factually correct there would be no argument, however it is very evident you took many liberties with your article.
As a publication, you garner no respect from any citizen in LA who looks to such magazines for facts and well researched opinion-based articles. None whatsoever. You are a joke, ask any citizen in LA what they think of LA Weekly. It is beyond me why you even publish such articles. Probably for the shock value and mild controversy you attain. How someone can open your magazine, absorb an article, then see the litany of ads for tranny whores opposed to the same page and still take your article seriously is nothing short of a miracle. Everyone knows LA weekly serves 2 purposes, it serves 2 crowds, #1 people that want the whore ads. #2 People that want to Marijuana ads. As far as #2 is concerned there are plenty more magazines that advertise MMJ. Hopefully all the mmj clubs that trusted their advertisement and money to you will cancel their ads. To those reading this and looking for mmj ads, the LA JEMM is a better source for mmj ads. The JEMM may be boring, they don't write their own artcles, and it's not very creative, but if you are searching for mmj ads that is the best source for printed ads in LA.
LA Weekly, you need to start researching your articles and facts before you publish them, don't just print your first observation and call it a fact. Your magazine is medium of smut peddlers and community college journalists who were 4 units shy of that ever-elusive and coveted AA degree. Keep trying guys, until then just stick to what you know best, pictures of transexual whores.
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Med Patient 12/01/2009 2:22:00 AM
This article is flawed. The author states "70% of people observed were young men", but does not mention how many people were observed and seems to imply that this limited, and unscientific, sample somehow proves that Medical Marijuana is being used by kids to get high and not being used by patients.
It has been over 13 years since California OK'ed Medical Marijuana and it has taken this long for LA to regulate dispensing medication to patients. I for one would like to see the Federal Government reclassify Marijuana so that Doctors can finally prescribe (rather than recommend) Marijuana to their patients.
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Morganisanidiot 12/01/2009 1:44:00 AM
Garbage Article.
Morgan you are possibly the biggest idiot to post on here so far. Move out of LA if you feel that way. Majority has spoken and still to this day there is heavy support for legalization. You obviously need to move somewhere you can share your right wing beliefs, preferably somewhere in the South. Then you can share your hate for medical marijuana over a nice Pharma cocktail, while talking about how slavery should still exist. You people are so blind to sit there and believe this crap. I agree w/ Mickey, "Stick to writing horoscopes and music reviews. That may be the most honest journalism you do." Accept it or leave, the majority of California has spoken and our voices will not be silenced now or ever again.
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Quincy 12/01/2009 12:26:00 AM
Supporting the Mexican street gangs weed profits is a dual edge sword because if you get arrested, you will face their associates, who want to harm you behind bars too.
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Eric Watson 11/30/2009 10:37:00 PM
I thought this was very poorly researched article that seemed to make lots of unfounded allegations without any fact checking at all.
The worst part is that no solution to the problem created by the team down at Los Angeles City Hall was discussed.
It seems to me that we should tax and regulate Marijuana like we do with the much more dangerous substance alcohol.
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Lenny/Justonevoice 11/30/2009 10:36:00 PM
Morgan while you attempt to come off that you are compassionate to those whom have Cancer and HIV /Aids you seem to be very ignorant of the law.
In addition we are not buying your lie, You speak of having compassion and yet you display exactly the oppisite along with iggnorance.
You say that the neighborhood groups where kept out. Please provide proof of this or do not post it.
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Kelli 11/30/2009 11:35:00 AM
I read this article with great interest. I was disappointed that it was not a fair and balanced piece and seemed to have a hard on for some guy named Duncan. I say hard on for him because you printed things about a human being that you provided no proof of and this is what is wrong with so-called journalism today. I expect more from LA Weekly.
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Morgan 11/30/2009 11:02:00 AM
We've watched these pot shops spring up like weeds over the last couple of years, and always wondered why our city council was either paralyzed or apathetic to the ROTWOTPH (Rest Of The World Other Than Pot Heads).
Now it seems that the council are finally waking up to an epidemic of unregulated drug dealers dressed up as pharmacists who are plaguing the city mercilessly.
We're all for compassionate use - that's what we voted for. But seeing one after another pot shop open run by the shadiest of characters from a Scorsese movie really makes me wonder whether our compassion was ill advised.
People with HIV/AIDS, Cancer and worse can have whatever they like to make their lives more bearable. If getting high on marijuana works for them, that's fine with me and most of everyone in LA. But what we have here in LA goes too far.
What really sickens me is the way that Councilmember Reyes, as Chair of the committee with oversight to this problem, shut out representatives from the Neighborhood Councils, but welcomed Mr. Duncan who was apparently getting paid by business who wanted to open pot shops. What kind of logic is that?
Well done LA Weekly in outing the scandal that is the reality of the way Ed Reyes has messed up our city by listening to a paid advocate for drug dealers instead of listening to the community that lives with his incompetence.
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Mlarsen 11/30/2009 9:33:00 AM
I was a patient once too...back in high school and college...
But back then there wasn't any compassion or safe access.
I had to wait for my medicine to be passed around at parties...
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joe blow 11/30/2009 8:51:00 AM
Patrick's response underscores his complete bias on this issue. First he insults us all by calling us all recreational users, then he says that anyone who supports
MMJ would be outraged at what he found out.
Well Patrick, I am not a recreational user. I have
true medicinal needs that MMJ meets over other alternatives.
And, I'm not outraged by the facts. In fact, I think
the system is working quite well given the decades of
reefer madness misinformation that has been spread
in this country by the media and government on Cannabis.
So please Patrick, stop insulting us, and stop putting
words into our mouths. You are only showing your true
biases by doing so.
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Eadred 11/30/2009 3:33:00 AM
If only we were spared the semantic "double-speak" of "medical" marijuana and just had an honest admission that most of howling protests is being done by people who simply want to get high. But please don't say you're "medicating" when you're driving around the freeways or at the Hollywood Bowl. What you're doing is getting high and I hope you make it home safely. Considering the most famous weed smoker of all time- Bob Marley, was riddled with cancer by his mid-thirties may lend itself to some doubt regarding the efficacy of weed for anything other than wishful thinking. Personally, if genuinely sick people thought that whale poop gathered from the bottom of the sea by virgin mermaids would help them then they would be entitled to that comfort, but otherwise spare me the blather.
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Patrick McCartney 11/30/2009 3:24:00 AM
Perhaps the next time, the LA Weekly can look into the "closed-door" meetings among law enforcement. Maybe you would find out that the "no-sales" interpretation of SB 420 came from a private meeting of the state DA's association, and not from the AG's statement.
(And it was the DA's association that inserted the "no profit" clause in SB 420 in 2003, thinking that would prevent storefront dispensaries.)
Once, I wrote an investigative piece for the LA Weekly about cop hatred toward the punks ("Police vs. Cops: Death of a Subculture," named one of LAW's "most significant" articles in its first twenty years). So I'm surprised to see the LA Weekly do such an in-depth report from law enforcement's point of view.
I don't think you needed 1,400 phone calls to discover that cops oppose medical marijuana.
The reason the City Council hasn't done anything is because the City Attorney and District Attorney are urging a course of action that would kill medical marijuana. Of -course- they are conferring instead with the more responsible medical-cannabis providers.
It's understandably difficult for elected officials to stand up to a law enforcement community that would still like to stop medical pot in its tracks.
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Alice 11/30/2009 3:00:00 AM
#88 Annie is a TRUE example of IGNORANCE!
The people have voted, and for dingbat Annie's information, it is the people who happen to have the MOST at risk here -- honest taxpaying law abiding citizens have a legal right to safe access.
Annie is most likely against anything that her own moral convictions say is "wrong". Annie can not see past her own limited point of view, please excuse her and others like her, they must have never ever voted! But they want to dictate the law!!!
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Annie B 11/30/2009 2:37:00 AM
Get real. No one is going to do a thing about the pot shops - which don't even want to sell to sick people.
Sick people don't have the money to pay off politicians, but drug dealers do.
As long as the pot sellers make money and share it with the politicians, the people don't matter at all.
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NOT A POT HEAD 11/30/2009 2:24:00 AM
So this is what you think of your advertisers? I hope the rest of the shops pull their ads too! Let's see LA weekly survive without all the MMJ ads that the "magazine" thrives on!
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Alice 11/30/2009 1:41:00 AM
Dear L.A. Weekly: I am so confused, I just HAD to write!
While reading the printed version of this article in last week's issue of the Weekly, I was turning to the next page when my eyes noticed an ad on the facing page -- the ad caught my eye as it was promoting Medical Marijuana Doctor's Recommendations to qualified patients, by Pacific Support Services.
Then I looked through the rest of the issue, and near the back I found enough Medical marijuana ads to completely fill several whole pages of the same publication that published this article villifying them.
MEDICAL MARIJUANA ADVERTSING DOLLARS undoubtedly have contributed to providing the resources necessary to report this story. Medical Marijuana ad revenue paid your bills and MMJ ad revenue helped to cover your reporter's expenditures while researching/writing this republican propaganda.
You accept MEDICAL MARIJUANA ADVERTISING DOLLARS and you PUBLISH MEDICAL MARIJUANA ADS while attempting to put them out business with this narrow minded, politically motivated reporting?
It's no secret that your circulation is tied to your ad revenue. And the economy is hurting bad right now, (and especially the publishing industry is taking a huge financial hit...) so I guess you have to take desperate measures to try to break even.
But as a long time reader, I must say that I strongly disapprove of your tactics. You are contradicting yourself, and you made a HUGE mistake in letting the collectives buy you lunch while you publish trash like this story in a vain attempt to increase your lagging circulation.
The reporter claims he approached this story unbiased, but in the article he parrots Trutanich's propaganda that Mexican drug lords and cartels and gangs supply the marijuana to the shops that sell it. I think this is a big lie motivated by political opponents of medical marijuana. I need proof, not hearsay and undocumented lies. If there are almost 1,000 medical marijuana cooperatives in L.A. that are being supplied by mexican drug cartels, then lets see some concrete evidence of it. If these cooperatives are as busy as you say, then the gangs must be everywhere -- why haven't we seen any proof? Some dead pictures of deer are not going to sway my opinion! Posters of Al Pacino as Scarface in every grower house? That's what I call reporting!
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11/30/2009 12:28:00 AM
Thanks so much, LAWeekly, for doing your damndest to stymie the marijuana movement and make it tougher for people to obtain marijuana -- a HARMLESS plant. You should all be f***ing ashamed.
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Chase 11/29/2009 9:53:00 PM
someone's bitter about THEIR dying industry. this article is devoid of objectivity, valid research, and basic concepts of journalistic integrity. i've always known LA Weekly to be a "rag mag" but this effusive article has just cemented that image into my mind permanently.
maybe in the future, you should stick to attacking communities that don't directly fund your awful publication.
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joe blow 11/29/2009 7:32:00 PM
Clearly the LA Weekly longs for the days
when street corners were the place where cancer patients
had to go to buy their medicine. LA Weekly wants cancer
patients to have to risk getting shot and killed so that
they can use Cannabis to alleviate their pain.
The LA Weekly clearly sorely misses the days when
the DEA were out in force raiding MMJ coops, killing
guard dogs, and holding terminal cancer patients at gunpoint while they looted all the weed and cash.
MMJ is in it's infancy and there are some growing
pains (sorry for the pun), but the LA Weekly is doing
a great disservice by continually writing these reefer
madness hatchet jobs that are based on anecdotal evidence
and are totaly biased in focusing on "recreational users".
There are loads of recreational users of prescription drugs.
Michael Jackson was killed by prescription drugs. But yet
the LA Weekly is determined to destroy MMJ in LA even
though no one has died from it, and even though there
is very strong evidence that there is medical benifit from
it and that it is far safer than precription drugs.
It sounds like the LA Weekly is getting paid off by
big Pharma and the drug cartels.
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Mike Jacobs 11/29/2009 12:08:00 PM
Nice, shut them down, LA Weekly and then in six months you can run an expose on all the new violence that erupts when the legal supply gets shut off and the black market war heats up. Hope you are happy.
Are you people nuts? Yes, the city is to blame but just legalize it already. The attack on Duncan, oh he's not a registered lobbyist!, etc. The reason I hate the LA Weekly. Who cares. Regulation kills everything. How's the economy doing? Better black market gangs than regulated legal sales? Is that your aim, LA Weekly? Seems to be.
Don't go to we just report the news. No you move the news. And how's this moving? To the black market.
Legalize and yes regulate. Allow all to grow their own tax free with nor regulation and you don't have as many problems with the money issue.
Why not run a story about that? Nope.
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ULF 11/29/2009 7:11:00 AM
Thank you for highlighting the serious issue of marijuana which the city has allowed to proliferate beyond the scope of 215 and intent of voters. As a small company owner, I'll not hire anyone who is smoking pot,and will fire them same as anyone showing up drunk at work. Don't care if they have a doctor's prescription. They can sue.
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Brenda / Rage 11/29/2009 6:36:00 AM
This excretia sprayed to the masses consuming the LA Weakly is liquid > without form or substance-flacid some would say.... Something all concerned must be conditioned to by now.
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Anna 11/29/2009 6:19:00 AM
Thank you Patrick, Christine and Tibby! Your article is enlightening. I'm all for legal medical marijuana, or even legalizing it beyond medical use. But the circus I've witnessed developing around the proliferation of dispensaries is alarming. I want to learn more!!
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Patwick 11/29/2009 5:42:00 AM
See... People do respect me...
Halcyon days.....
Congratulations to Patrick Range McDonald
Filed under: General � Patterico @ 9:52 pm
Patrick Range McDonald � who did the best piece of journalism to date on the Stephen Yagman trial, anywhere � has been hired on as a staff writer for the L.A. Weekly, sources say. (I love saying �sources say.� It�s something I picked up from the Hot Property section of the L.A. Times, as read by Harry Shearer on his radio program.)
McDonald officially started this past Monday, according to sources.
Congratulations to Mr. McDonald.
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Patwick Rocks!
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Judgement Dave 11/29/2009 5:22:00 AM
When Patwick was given his big break, joining the LA Weekly (investigation may find he paid the Weekly to be seen ala Whisky a GO Go) two years ago he was soon generating the kind of stories that real investigative journalists could only hope for....If it was only factually accurate...
Heres his first hatchet job....Patwick's mother must be so proud.....
News Index > Sortable News 10/06 - now > Dec 2007
Patrick Range McDonald - Proud to Be a Sleazy JournalistI don't know if you saw the article in the current issue of LA Weekly Magazine, entitled: "Terrorizing Villaraigosa: Animal rights zealots target his sister and suggest he should die" by reporter Patrick Range McDonald. He interviewed me. I had no inclination what his agenda was and feel I was interviewed under false pretenses - but that isn't even the crux of my complaint.
I believe that the principles of fair journalism dictate that the respondent's statements be accurately quoted in the context in which they were made and that the major informational or ideological points discussed be faithfully included.
Here is the essay I submitted to which and with which you may compare and contrast Mr. McDonald's article. He altered my words, omitted core information and clarifying remarks, and even attributed statements to me which I did not make.
We have no way of knowing in advance what a reporter's motives are - and we are all aware that our movement has its detractors. Mr. McDonald will be removed from the Press Office Media List. I trust that LA Weekly's readership is sophisticated and savvy enough to recognize unfair journalism practices. and that those interested will view the essay on the Press Office website.
Mr. McDonald's editors will also be contacted.
Interview with Patrick Range McDonald, Reporter for LA Weekly Magazine
The North American Animal Liberation Press Office (NAALPO) is an above-ground, legal entity that receives, releases to the media, and clarifies the anonymous communiqu�it receives from underground activists who carry out illegal direct action in defense of abused and exploited nonhuman animals. The Press Officers do not participate in underground activities and do not know the identities of those who do. Neither can they (or any other above-ground activists) predict or control when, where, how, whom, or whether the underground will strike. Since we cannot communicate directly with the underground, the Press Officers do our best to construct a reasonable evaluation of why an action was taken - by speaking from the heart and drawing on perspectives gleaned from long-term commitment to the animal rights movement. I like to put it that we speak for those who cannot - and for those who dare not.
The Stop The Killing educational campaign against Los Angeles Animal Services (LAAS) has been engaged in constitutionally-protected pickets for about three years. It obeys all local, state, and national laws governing demonstrations and seeks redress of grievances through totally legal channels. It focuses on the six Los Angeles municipal shelters currently overseen by General Manager Ed Boks. He was fired and asked to resign from the same positions in New York City and Maricopa County (AZ), respectively, for the identical complaints now levied against him in Los Angeles. These consist of allegedly "cooking the books," lying, and employing disingenuous means to appear to be lowering the kill rate. The latter is reputed to consist of manipulating figures by factoring out certain categories and allowing animals to linger until they die "on their own" from willfully untreated injuries and illnesses. Boks reportedly omits from the "euth" stats neonates, ferals, owner-surrenders, purported "unsociables," and animals who die in-house. If the true kill rate is the percentage derived from the fraction whose denominator is the total number of animals impounded and whose numerator is the total number of animals dying (for any reason), my guess is that it would fall somewhere between 60 and 80. Ed Boks also refuses to implement the protocols, policies, procedures, and programs of NoKill Solutions proven to be saving lives at progressive shelters nationwide.
The Animal Liberation Front is an underground group that removes animals directly from the clutches of - or inflicts economic sabotage on - their abusers. Liberations are difficult today, because of tightened and more sophisticated security - so the emphasis seems to be more on property damage. The motive for the former is self-explanatory, while that for the latter rests on the premise that money and material possessions are all that matter in the absence of conscience and compassion. The ALF adheres to a very strict guideline that no life - human or animal - be harmed during an action. (Any group that follows its guidelines can consider itself part of the ALF, but the Press Officers have no way of knowing whether groups doing so but carrying other names still, in fact, so consider themselves.) Other groups - such as the Animal Rights Militia, Justice Department, and Revolutionary Cells - do not rule out violence against abusers as a morally justified tactic, although to date such has not (to my knowledge) been employed. In every social justice cause, there has been that element willing to "ratchet it up a notch" - and it is doubtful that movement objectives would have been achieved without it.
Property damage strives to completely shutter animal-abusing businesses or at least disable them to the point where recovery is extremely cumbersome and time-consuming. It consists usually of destroying equipment and data. Where individuals are concerned, cosmetic or mechanical insults to homes and vehicles "encourage" targets to pursue more ethical vocational endeavors. "Secondary" or "tertiary" targeting is a brilliant and effective strategy that goes after satellite businesses and clients servicing, supplying, and patronizing offensive central companies. The theory is that it's nearly impossible to conduct commerce when no one will underwrite an organization's insurance, do its banking, trade its stock, or even provide it with toilet paper. This is the situation for Huntingdon Life Sciences (HLS), a product-testing lab that poisons to death 500 animals a day and is the object of an ongoing international campaign across twenty-two countries. When aimed at family members and other associates of a disfavored individual, the logistic may seem to be "unfair" on the surface. But activists assign a certain degree of moral culpability to these indirect "accomplices" who enable the abusers by failing to hold them accountable for their atrocities against animals - and the intent of the underground actions is ostensibly to "persuade" them to exert pressure for reform on the perpetrators.
My speculation is that this last would be the reason behind the strikes against Deborah Villar (sister of Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa) and Maria Teresa Blackman (ex-wife of Jimmy Blackman, mayoral Deputy Chief of Staff). They both are in a position to influence two men who have the power to make drastic beneficial changes for the innocent animals who are caught in the crosshairs between a pair of politicians whose continued dereliction of duty is costing tens of thousands of lives. The mayor refuses to fire the inept and uncaring Ed Boks and replace him with someone competent and dedicated. In fact, back in October 2005, the Mayor and Jimmy Blackman promised the humane community that they were going to get the shelters on track by hiring Nathan Winograd (NoKill Solutions) as a consultant. But they reneged on that pledge.
And there may be people in the above-ground who disagree with some of the underground's targets, but they respect and support its choices. The few who have been caught reveal that those who elect to carry out illegal direct action are mature, bright, methodical individuals who just want the same thing the above-ground wants - for the killing to stop. And the way to get it to stop in the shelters is to implement the tenets of Nathan Winograd's NoKill Solutions.
I do not consider the statement in the communiqu�bout "bumping" Mayor Villaraigosa a threat. Legally, a threat must comprise three elements: action, agent, and an imminent time frame. In other words, it must delineate what's going to happen, who's going to do it, and when it will occur. Every one of us, including you and me, has expressed - upon hearing of some heinous offense - the wish that the same would befall the perpetrator. It is not a threat or an advocation, but simply an expression of moral outrage.
The UCLA Primate Freedom Project is a campaign against primate experimentation at the University of California at Los Angeles. The university squanders multiple millions of dollars studying methamphetamine addiction in monkeys. Substance abuse is an arena of inquiry that should lend itself admirably to clinical studies in which an investigation into the psychodynamic and socioeconomic parameters that contribute to a uniquely human problem would constitute a much more ethical and productive course than making "tweakers" of members of a species with no native inclination toward self-intoxication and no ability to communicate their experiences. UCLA also purports to "simulate" strabismus - commonly referred to as "lazy" or "crossed" eye - by injecting the paralytic drug Botox into the ocular musculature of restrained primates, when a simple and successful operation has already been known and practiced for at least six decades.
Underground activity is driven by pervasive animal abuse and is also a response to individuals and officials who consistently "thumb their noses" at above-ground activists and humane advocates. It also seems to escalate in the presence of law enforcement harassment of and interference in the free exercise of First-Amendment rights. I personally have been cited and arrested for doing nothing more than peacefully protesting. I have also been raided twice by the FBI, who searched my apartment and confiscated two computers. I surmise that I was targeted because the authorities may see me as somewhat more "prominent" or "visible" - since I am a Press Officer, quite outspoken, and wont to use the bullhorn at demonstrations.
No one expects or demands perfection - but if LAAS would make a sincere, honest, and diligent effort to save animals' lives by hiring Nathan Winograd of NoKill Solutions to consult, it would doubtless find that the above-ground would take a hiatus and the humane community would rally behind it with support and assistance. Common sense would dictate that the underground would probably back off, as well. If all the killing and law enforcement attempts to quash civil liberties continue, I can only assume that both above-ground and underground campaigns will press onward - and possibly increase in frequency.
Lindy Greene
NAALPO Press Officer
lindygreene@adelphia.net
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Deaf Ears 11/28/2009 10:58:00 PM
It's been said before, but it's worth saying again. Mr. McDonald - your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to determine what portion of your salary is paid by them cartel-lovin', pesticide-peddlin', deer-strafin' "dispensaries," because in this very issue, it looks like about 30 of them have ads, not counting the smaller classified ads. There are many facets to this issue and many parties have their hand in the till, including the LA Weekly.
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Lebowskidude 11/28/2009 8:36:00 PM
Not only does the Weekly publish inaccurate hit pieces like this one, they have a "news" writer named Dennis Romero who posts blatently anti-MMJ headlines and posts. The 2010 general election will have a legalization proposition that will win in a landslide. Mason-Dixon polling recently found that 74% of Los Angeles residents support medical marijuana. Why is it that this publication constantly and consistently attempts to portray MMJ patients and caregivers as criminals? We are professional people who choose to use a natural substance instead of harmful medicines. NSAIDS give me bleeding ulcers that can be deadly. MMJ provides me natural and safe relief from my symptoms. Please L.A. Weekly, use good and ethical journalism when doing these type of articles. You have ZERO evidence that Don Duncan is doing anything illegal/unethical that I can see. And the article writers assertations about his "lunch meeting" with some activists must be an embarrassment to the Weekly.
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Patients are a Virtue 11/28/2009 7:13:00 AM
If medical marijuana dispensaries are all profiteers, pushing their marijuana on children, as the LA Weekly claims, then what does that make the LA Weekly for running their ads, or for God's sake, having a MICROSITE DEDICATED TO MEDICAL MARIJUANA!!!
LAWeekly.com/microsites/alternativehealing
Apparently they mock the word "patients" by putting it in quotations, but they'll dedicate pages of their magazine and website to "alternative healing."
Be warned, LA Weekly, there is a very good reason the medical marijuana advocates have the pull downtown that we do.
Hell hath no fury like that of a women, or medical marijuana patient, scorned.
We won at the ballot box in 1996; We won with the DEA in 2009; and inch-by-inch, we will win at the LA City Council.
Be warned Village Voice Publications and Mr McDonald: You're next. We will not stop until every marijuana business has pulled their ad from your paper.
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lemans3427 11/28/2009 3:55:00 AM
If Patrick Range McD is such a tough guy why doesn't he disclose what % of his paycheck comes from "drug dealers."
Can I be against "big government," "love freedom" and still support the ban on marijuana?
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rexfrankel 11/28/2009 3:46:00 AM
Ohhh, It's too bad I quit smoking pot just before voters legalized it for medical purposes in 1996. It would have been nice to have been able to buy it in one of the thousands of liquor stores and 7-11's across this town that openly get our friends and families addicted to cigarettes and beer, leading to numerous traffic accidents and premature deaths. Oh, the scourage (courage?) of pot selling collectives, taking away business from the true death merchants of tobacco and alcohol. We must get these vile purveyers of the munchies (who must somehow be tied with Al Queda--oh, wait, they're into heroin...) off our retail districts and back into the alleys where they belong!
Rex Frankel, civic activist, professional trouble-maker
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Mort Allen 11/27/2009 10:32:00 PM
It is all about Supply & Demand - Marijuana is a Class A Narcotic. state law requires all narcotic prescriptions be written on a state triplicate narcotic prescription form with a copy immediately sent to the State Pharmacy Board, a copy in the patients medical file and a copy in the file of the licensed pharmacist filling the prescription. The doctore must be licensed and certified. A person so sick that they need a Narcotic has a thick medical file showing other types of drug theraphy has not worked. Forget the dispensaries, go after the Doctors. Require each collective to turn over all their sales receipts, purchase orders, and prescriptions. Make sure we are getting the 9.75% sales tax on all their sales, then make sure every prescription is written with a backup medical file. Earlier this year Earlier this year the Medical Board of California suspended the license to practice of a prominent San Diego Doctor for failing to comply with Medical Standards for being caught prescribing medical marijuana to two undercover cops. The Doctor was one of a group investigated by the San Diego Police & DA for appearing to be prescribing a relively high amoount of marijuana to young patients who were not suffering serious medical conditions. Start yanking Doctors licenses to practive and see how fast the demand dries up. Since when do Doctors write prescriptions for unlimited quantities? WHAT A COINCEDENCE....The majority of dispensories and cooperatives are not in the areas where they would be out of public view and scrutiny, but are concentrated around the cluster of illegal digital billboards. Clear Channel allegedly owns the City Council, from being partners with AEG to controilling the monopoly of digital billboards. They shoved through the settlement agreement, put up 110 awful digital billboards and then manipulated the ban to keep other companies, including CBS for building competing boards. IT WORKED, UNTIL the Court threw them a curve and said it was up to the City to decide if the newly built 110 digitals were legal, case by case. WHATS AT STAKE? The online Clear CHannel rate sheet for digital billboards is $97,000 per month per board (shown as 10% of 10 boards). That is $1,164,000 year, times 100 billboards, equals an annual imcone of One Billion, Two Hundred and Eighty Million Dollars a year. The value on their books for the 110 digitals in Los Angeles is TWELVE BILLION, EIGHT HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS. It is a given that when the City follows the Judges orders and looks at each illegal digital, case by case, they will first see that not one has property owners signature, not one has a EIR, and not one has traffic mitigation. What would you do if you were Greg McGrath, President of Clear Channel Outdoor of Southern California and the Clear Channel Outdoor Attorney, perpetual Mayoral Candidate Walter Moore - knowing you had to answer to Republican Guru, Mitt Romney, of Bain Capial, owners of Clear Channel? My bet is you would create such a major crisis for the City Council, that they would make a hush hush move and deem the 110 Clear Channel Digitals legal and keep their billboard monopoly in place. OOPS. THEY FORGOT ONE THING - THE 110 PROPERTY OWNERS WHO NEVER APPROIVED THE DIGITAL CONVERSIONS AND WANT 50% OF THE MONTHLY RENTAL INCOME OR $48,500 MONTH EACH. Should the property owners join together and file a class action lawsuit against the City, the taxpayers could be liable to pay over Five Hundred Million Dollars annually. How much does Clear Channel pay the City in taxes and license fees? How big a surcharge does DWP charge for the digitals, each with a half million LED light bulbs, overloading our power grids? 'Nuff said?
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Mrs Respected 11/27/2009 10:27:00 PM
NONSENSE! YOU ALL NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT POTHEADS. NOT EVERYONE IS A POTHEAD. I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE TIME TALKING CRAP, U ALREADY DID IT.. WHAT I WILL DO IS MAKE SURE EVERY CO-OP I COME IN CONTACT WITH KNOWS THEY NEED TO TAKE THEIR ADVERTISEMENTS ELSEWHERE! DON'T BITE THE HANDS THAT FEED YOU FOOLD! I WON'T PICK UP ANOTHER ONE OF THESE PAPERS! (IT'D BE NICE IF I COULD PICK UP A STACK AND GO RECYCLE THEM, BUT THAT'S A WASTE OF TIME) LOL. HAPPY THANKSGIVING ALL!
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Lenny/Justonevoice 11/27/2009 10:19:00 PM
Kevin:
OK I will say it again: Parenting
Why are oarents expecting schools to raise their children?
Kevin while maybe those kids where smoking pot hell when I was a kid we could get pot and there where no dispensaries.How do you assume that the marijuana that they where smoking was from a dispensary?
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northeast 11/27/2009 9:48:00 PM
(1) la weekly is not the progressive alternative paper anymore that I looked forward to picking up every week. Believe me, i follow this paper and it has become "gotcha" sensational reporting that often gets facts wrong and only uses facts to prove their sensational point of view.
(2) what's wrong with people speaking/discussing before a new law is made? your use of "backroom deals" may only be the normal process that takes place when new laws are made. granted, here, the problem may be that a certain "interest group" had exclusive control of the process of making the new law by having direct and exclusive access to the lawmakers.
(3) mcdonald, don't play innocent. you have your point of view in this story and others. you are not objective.
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Los Ojos 11/27/2009 4:51:00 PM
Kinda funny double standard "truth" to Bill and other pro- Trutanich types always have about questioning his behavior and motives - lay off him because now he's in office he can do whatever he wants, he's sacred and his office deserves bowing and scraping no questions asked. But look at how they and this paper and most everyone these days make fun of the mayor, Reyes and Koretz and some others and use them as punching bags, pinatas, do nothing but drag them through the mud and assert they're crooks and liars whatever they do. What is with this Trutanich character and Cooley, and his mob of followers - sounds more like the Corleone's and the mob.
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Bob 11/27/2009 11:15:00 AM
I find it completely slanderous to say that Don Duncan is somehow profiteering from medical marijuana. Medical marijuana is a very valuable commodity, but it requires many other expenses in order to run a collective properly. There is rent, employees, medical marijuana, security, insurance, and taxes (both federal and state). It seems reasonable to me the employees of a collective should be paid decent salaries, because it is not cheap to live in California, LA especially.
Just because you don't know the workings of a non-profit doesn't mean they are breaking the law. The laws have been very vague, even the guidelines by Gerry Brown could be interpreted to mean that patients can reimburse a collective for costs incurred to grow the marijuana. Once a person in a patient at a collective they can donate their extra medical marijuana they grow, and be reimbursed for their costs.
Any money that comes in above expenses has to be rolled back into the business, or donated elsewhere. One area that LA could improve in is the services offered by the collectives. Many others around the state offer other health related services for discounted costs to their members such as yoga or counseling. A sensible solution would be some system of checking that excess were indeed being donated or used for patient services. As it stands right now, that money could be used for pretty much anything except to the employees (not counting their salaries of course).
I was very disappointed with the narrow thinking of this article, and if it weren't for the comments on this article it would be a waste to even give the LA Weekly the hits.
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Richard Hode 11/27/2009 9:52:00 AM
What a piece of trash this article is. I live in Woodland Hills and our problem is traffic, not the cannabis dispensaries that provide jobs and income to many people in the area. As for robberies and crime, the article pretends as if only cannabis dispensaries are hit, while in fact all sorts of businesses are burglarized as long as they carry valuables. Jewelry stores get robbed regularly, and pharmacies as well, but no one seems to require them to employ guards. So here we have a simple weed that ounce for ounce is about half as valuable as gold at the current rate, thanks to the prohibition that LA Weekly seems intent on continuing.
Why must cannabis dispensaries be located at a certain distance from schools? I know for a fact that there is a pharmacy right on the other side of the street from Taft High School, in fact, the drug store is as close to the school as possible. That pharmacy has cash too, and narcotics, stimulants, and all sorts of other dangerous drugs. Why is it okay for a drug store to be near a school while a cannabis dispensary must keep at a distance? Only because of drug war prejudices and the inability of some people to come to terms with the majority's will which they are busy undermining for their own agendas, like the LA Weekly.
As for "young men" who frequent cannabis dispensaries, I see nothing wrong with that unless they are behave in an unacceptable manner. The mere fact that a young man enters a dispensary, makes a purchase, exits and leaves is hardly a cause for opprobrium for anyone other than a drug warrior who is looking for an opportunity to criticize something, anything about cannabis and its users. The same rules of social conduct exist inside the dispensaries as at the grocery store; it's not as if there are secret rituals that go on inside the dispensaries. Everything is very normal. "Could I have a quarter of White Widow?" "Here you are," "Thank you very much," "Have a nice day." Had it not been for the dispensary-hysteria manufactured by such as the LA Weekly and community busybodies, the dispensaries would be wholly unremarkable. This LA Weekly article is trying to apply "solutions" to nonexistent problems. Let the dispensaries proliferate until the demand for cannabis is met. When the saturation point is reached, there will be no new dispensaries opening. The law of supply and demand will see to that. It seems the frequent accusation against the dispensaries is that they are making "too much" money. Perhaps the dispensaries should set up a pool so that the envious city honchos could wet their beaks, which should gladden their hearts. After all, is this not the City of Angels?
Of course, we are all grateful to the Old Guard like Scott Imler and the others who got the medicinal cannabis ball rolling, but they need not worry that their goals will be frustrated. Medicinal users still get their medicine, regardless of how many young men are seen visiting the dispensaries. We need have no fear that the drug warriors will be able to roll things back to a full prohibition because as the dispensaries sink economic roots into the community, the economic benefits will be more clear and uprooting impossible. Besides, we are riding a strong nation-wide current for legalization, thanks to President Obama calling off the dogs. I hope that soon all who want will have full access to cannabis. At least as far as I am concerned, that is the goal and any means to achieve it is fine with me.
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kevin Glynn 11/27/2009 9:43:00 AM
For Lenny/Just one voice in Lancaster:
There's a problem of not only mixed messages but also of fiscal irresponsibility with tax dollars. Last Thursday we had a big "dog and pony" Rob Reiner inspired anti-tobacco show at LA High with skateboarders, BMX bikers, Marines, etc( I was surprised Porn Valley didn't get involved with all the hubbub and contribute strippers for HIV and breast cancer awareness). As the tax-paid performers exhorted the kids not to smoke tobacco by flinging wristbands and stuffed animals into the crowd on one side, the rest of the kids were lighting up big doobies on the other! We then wrapped things up with false fire alarms and a 911 call for a passed out 10th grader! We must have burned through tens of thousands of dollars in public money that day but that's just another day in public education!
Unless there are solid mechanisms to control medical marijuana sale to minors, then please don't hold public teachers accountable FOR ANYTHING. Already the social pathologies we deal with are overwhelming. We can continue to feed children free breakfasts and lunch, provide condoms and morning after pills, day care and abortion counseling, child abuse and sexual abuse therapy groups, Section 8 housing and immigration services, but don't ask us to increase math or reading scores. Let's just show "Saw" movies and pass the "medication" (Ritalin, Adderol, Prozac, Maui-Wowee, or whatever) .
Needless to say, it's a mess! Thank God for martinis!
Have a good Thanksgiving!
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bill 11/27/2009 9:18:00 AM
"For Truth" or rather Un-Truth same as your hero, you can't refute a single thing I say because it's all a fact - the only ones telling lies and making up and exaggerating things were and are your people. Instead what you LIKE your hero expect is that now that he's lied and used people to get into office, he can throw them all under the ten-ton truck, malign and defame them, including Laura Chick who he courted shamelessly and is treating just as shamefully now.
(AEG's right on that one, put up or shut up, stop defaming as well as shaking down companies and people. Not to mention threatening to jail them, including your "boss" Jan Perry, and clients like the head of building & safety for speaking their mind. As well as intentionally intimidating MMJ patients at a Town Hall meeting and elsewhere.)
Here's news for you buddy, once you deceive and lie your way into office then act illegally and for your own political agenda NOT the city's welfare, in fact contrary to it in many instances, and downright illegally and thuggishly - you do NOT get to say "we won, it's end of game." This isn't N Korea, his apparent role model for tyrants. No, it's the beginning where his feet are going to be held to the fire, his lies exposed. If Cooley weren't his enabler, he'd be indicted by now for extortion and abusing the job to threaten and extort (a word AEG seems to be delicately avoiding for the moment).
Guess what, Un-Truth, he works FOR us, is using our money to act like a thug and abuse his office often illegally. Reyes is right that in this case (among others), he's acting more to further his own politcal agenda than to give the City Council objective information and advice. (The way Usher intentionally lied to claim that Brown SAID he supported Trutanich/ Cooley when he did NOT, just to throw them off during Council, was an egregious case in point.)
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For Truth 11/27/2009 8:12:00 AM
Bill from Venice: don't you ever get tired of your antiTrutanich propaganda of lies and meaningless drivel. Your hero Weiss lost, end of story. Move on. Splurge on some turkey and doobies, and spit out your poison on this day of peace and gratitude.
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Andrew 11/27/2009 6:22:00 AM
Please stop posting blatently biased articles of the medical marijuana community in your publication. I will instruct everyone I know to boycott the la weekly until you show unbiased reporting.
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bill 11/27/2009 4:43:00 AM
Another crucial error in reporting which skews the whole discussion: you (Patrick) report here near the end of the piece on p.9 that the Mayor said his attorneys said they agree with Cooley etc that "all sales are illegal," and in fact that IS what was reported in the Daily News AND quoted by Richard Alarcon, guiding his decision to refuse to support anything which approved "sale" or had that word in it even, since he said in that case, the mayor would veto it.
BUT a corrected version of the Daily News article, and the version in the L A Times Now yesterday, says that the mayor opposes "for-profit sales" which makes ALL the difference in the world, and distinguishes the State Atty General's (Jerry Brown's) position -- also the Council's, including their ally Zine's -- from Cooley/Trutanich's that ALL SALES FOR PROFIT OR OTHERWISE ARE ILLEGAL. They've even stated that any money changing hands, e.g. for rent or utilities or salary, would be illgal - as though trading beads or wampum might become the currency of the day.
Please update your article again to reflect this crucial distinction.
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Lenny/Justonevoice 11/27/2009 4:43:00 AM
Patrick just the fact that you now have to sit here and attempt to explain you article lends a lot of weight to the fact that it is inaccurate.
Yes,Duncan was and is a contact man. Not becuase he has special treatment but because he worked for year before the ICO to get the attention of the council. I call that good work. In addition what you do not seem to understand is that Mr.Duncan does many different jobs besides his collective and several of them are for free such as Americans for Safe Access and the Greater Los Angeles Collectives Alliance which for years have done self regulation from within. He has sat on the Board of that organization not because he asked to but because we the original founders of that group asked him too because of his ability to multi-task and get things done.Everytime he corresponded with City Hal he did so as a representitive of GLACA and ASA and all corespondence was shared and discussed in monthly meetings that we held along with weekly meetings held by the board. We have been involved since the beginning and continue to be so. If we have more access then others it is because we have worked for it and earned respect because of what we have and continue to accomplish. We want regulation also and had we not brought it up to the council we would not even where we are now there would most likely be 2000 collectives if we did not act.
So,the point is that your article did not reflect or even understand the whole truth of the matter and went out on what you obviously thought was the whole story from a warped perspective. Not good Journalism and that is all there is to it. Retract,do your homework,report only the whole truth not misinformation and then only then will The LA weeklyy not lose ad revenue that it worked very hard to get.
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bill 11/27/2009 4:09:00 AM
You trash Duncan and lionize the rightwing clown ("Carmen the Soap Opera" as CityWatch, Draper who you quote as a conservative critic of pot, dubs him even) Trutanich as always -- but don't state that Trutanich USED DUNCAN AND HIS AMERICANS FOR SAFE ACCESS and EVERY PRO-MED CANNABIS GROUP TO WORK FOR HIM AND TO FUND HIS ELECTION.
Just look at Duncan's blog aboutmedicalmarijuana.com, May 20th 09 day after the election, naively ecstatic that "good friend to our community Trutanich" has been elected. There's a photo of pro-pot advocates all dressed up, with Trutanich with his fake "fooled ya again" grin, which looks now to be the sham that it always was. In fact Trutanich always meant to throw them under the pick-up truck after raking in their big bucks, getting them to walk precincts and make tons of calls and get out the vote. which might have made a crucial difference in a low turn-out election. His opponent Jack Weiss always said that it was illegal to sell pot for a profit (while Trutanich and Cooley now say ANY money changing hands, even for seeds, fertilizer, rent or utilities or to pay helpers is illegal, which sounds more radical to me).
Trutanich just plain flat-out lied to the community, as he did to many others to get elected. The man has no integrity and that is far worse than any position he may take, although shutting down every single shop as they want, including the many which have operated with permits for years, would guarantee a class-action lawsuit the city is likely to lose because the Cooley-Trutanich agenda conflicts with the non-profit sales allowed by the courts in cities from Oakland and San Fran to WeHo. (Whether or not they should have been granted permits is another issue.)
As "Cheryl" an articulate patient-UCLA student explains in her blog waronme.blogspot.com, especially the Oct. 18 post, "Trutanich Throws Medical Cannabis Community Under the Bus." That's when he first unveiled his ordinance and views as a carbon copy of his puppetmaster and recruiter for the office Steve Cooley. (Who wants Trutanich to take over for HIM as DA when he retires so LOOK OUT PEOPLE.) Cheryl and the community therefore call him FALSETanich, and point out they're in the same boat as Laura Chick on the Controller issue, lots of others he lied to, to use and toss aside and in fact, go to war against once he was done with them.
He's also waging a self-serving, politically motivated war on AEG, shaking them down for some $6 Million he claims they owe the city for the Jackson Memorial Event, explicitly counter to their contractual obligations, and just plain thuggery especially in this economy. Those are numbers HE inflated anyway, there's no official basis and the city's estimates have been $1.3 Mil on top of the money that would have been spent on salary anyway, plus some $4 Mil taken in by the city in revenue; the Jackson family has pledged $1 Mil already. AEG may pay, but not until this thug of a city "attorney" stops maligning and defaming them without proof or substantiation of any charges. I'd think twice, 25X, before using HIS opinion as gospel on anything.
And by the way, Usher flat-out lied to the Council this week in claiming that Jerry Brown told KFI he supported Trutanich-Cooley, that ALL sales profit or otherwise are illegal. He said NO SUCH THING, and your quote here is the correct one: Brown just agreed that the situation in L A is out of control, some maybe many are illegal, and took advantage of the "hardship exemption" loophole in ways Rocky clearly hadn't meant. BUT Usher read from a false interpretation of Brown's remarks by a KFI commenter (an avowedly right-wing, pro-Cooley/Trutanich station) to assert that Brown SAID he supported their view, which was a flat-out, intentional lie. No wonder she works so closely with Trutanich.
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Patrick Range McDonald 11/27/2009 3:16:00 AM
Quick Postscript: I forgot to mention that I asked Oliver Summers about pot profiteers and they're role in the medical marijuana mess in late October and in November. His October response was in the piece at the end. So clearly I wasn't representing myself one way and then going in another direction entirely. It was a complex issue that needed to be looked at from many sides.
Take care,
Patrick Range McDonald
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Bud Green 11/27/2009 2:49:00 AM
The City Council is responsible for a large surge in the number of buyers. On my last visit to the despensary, I was greeted by a line out the door! A first, since I got my prescription over two years ago. The new customers? All abound 18, 19 years old. Seems to me ever since the City threatened to "get tough" with the despenasries, the doctors began writing scripts for anything and everything and the despensaries started selling any amount to first time customers. Way to go. The threat of ending or regulation the despensaries has resulted in a huge number of new customers. By the way, where in Prop 215 does it say you have to have a serious disease to use cannibus? My tendinitus thumbs are much, much better treated with cannibus rather thtn perscribed pills; one of which did absolutely nothing.
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Patrick Range McDonald 11/27/2009 2:26:00 AM
Thanks again for the comments following my comment. I did approach Oliver Summers in the context of seeing what he thought about city hall's bundling of the issue, which we go into extensively in the piece. So there was no distortion or lies taking place on my part.
Also, that initial encounter with Summers took place in late October. The story then evolved over the following month and more facts came in. As responsible journalists, we couldn't ignore those facts and we did more reporting on them. That's how journalism works. You get a lead and follow it. You get another lead and you follow that. So on and so forth.
Oliver Summers approached me in City Hall the day after the article came out. At the time he approached me, I had just been berated by two medical marijuana advocates and a third stood over me less than a foot away for ten minutes, staring me down as I ate a quick lunch. She then trailed me wherever I went, and I subsequently had to ask LAPD officers to ask her to back off because she wouldn't listen to me. Two of those advocates called me a "pussy" and a "pansy man," which personally upset me because I'm a gay man and don't take kindly to that kind of name-calling, whether or not she knew I'm gay. So reasonable dialogue was not the order of the day at that point. Oliver approached me during the middle of this, and I was still working on a story that was developing inside city council chamber, where I was also dealing with city council members I had written about. So there were a lot of things happening and a lot of hostility to deal with.
Regardless, I don't remember Summers asking me specific questions about Don Duncan. I just remember him telling me, in a nutshell, how I hurt his "movement." I also knew I was being engaged in a conversation--which started off with Summers telling me how wrong I was--that had no hopes for reasonable, back-and-forth dialogue. His mind was made up, so I didn't say much and just took his hits. Which is fine. I was expecting it.
Getting face-to-face meetings with city council members is extremely difficult. Duncan got those meetings over a four-year period, worked on a city hall working group, and continued to trade numerous emails with city council staff. He got enormous access. More access than any neighborhood group. With Villaraigosa and Garcetti out of the loop, Duncan was driving the agenda. Read the article again. That fact is clear. He was also asked by Ed Reyes, the chair of PLUM, who was leading the drafting of a MMD ordinance, for a list of "deal breakers" and face-to-face meetings. Many of the proposals Reyes has put forward has a direct connection to Don Duncan as a result, specifically sales. Like I said, read the article again. It's all there.
Take care,
Patrick Range McDonald
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Lenny/Justonevoice 11/27/2009 12:19:00 AM
�If Don were as influential as the reporter for the LA Weekly suggests, the City of Los Angeles would have adopted regulations for patients� collectives years ago! What a shame that the newspaper missed an opportunity to explore the nuances of this important issue, opting instead for tabloid innuendo and personal attacks. That is not what professional journalists regard as investigative reporting. The public deserves better media than this.
Medical cannabis patients and advocates have done a great job of organizing themselves and becoming an effective voice at City Hall. When suggesting that the voice of the community is not included in the process, the reporter should also consider that patients are part of the community, too. I hope every member of the community will reject the LA Weekly�s divisive posture and work together to adopt sensible regulations to protect patients and their neighbors.�
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SDbudz 11/27/2009 12:13:00 AM
you state as fact Don Duncan the most important man at city hall regarding MMJ, clearly your opinion,and you say he insists all members are patients in quotation marks obviously questioning the validity of his members I guarantee you all his members have valid recommedations,the reason for use is none of your business, prop 215 says any condition for which marijuana provides relief, that means if I want to apply majiuana leaf up my ass for hemroids vs.preparation H that is my right, your pot story is just that a story the same old hater one with no facts
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Lenny/Justonevoice 11/27/2009 12:00:00 AM
Patrick the point that we are all trying to make is that had this article been accurate we would not be here posting. Trust me that many of us that have been attatched to Regulation here in LA know is that the system is not perfect but that we are willing to work with the City and Neighborhoods Groups to find a way to do this with the least amount of problems and we have demostrated as such.
But we are here and it is because of your inaccurate reporting that we are and it will have a derect monetary effect on the LA Weekly and we hope that maybe just maybe you could maybe retract your inaccuracies and maybe write an article based on truths and facts and from a fair point of view.
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Oliver Summers 11/26/2009 11:43:00 PM
As someone who was interviewed for this 'article', I can't emphasize the distortion of what was asked verse what was printed. When I was approached by Mr. McDonald, he told me the article is about how City Hall dropped the ball. He asked me several questions about how we have progressed over the years, to what ASA and GLACA were doing, to our opinion of what the city is doing. GLACA is not mentioned once. ASA is referred to in derogatory ways. Apparently, we are all 'Pot Heads' not patients, legalization, not safe access... It was such a distortion of what we said that it borders on insulting and defamatory!!
When I approached Mr. McDonald about the article, more specific, his accusations about Don Duncan... The answers were vague and obviously not researched. "We don't know how much he makes" "We don't know who put him in charge" "We don't know what he is doing behind the closed doors with the council" "Who vetted him?"... If Don Duncan was as powerful as you say he is, why is he wasting his time in courtrooms all the time? Why doesn't he just run his legal collective in West Hollywood and let LA fend for himself? Maybe it's because he is one of the most selfless people I have ever met! Why doesn't he just use is influence to tell the council how it is and be finished with it if he so powerful?? Maybe it's because he isn't this "puppet master" the the LA Weekly has made him out to be. Afterall, you said Scott Imler is more important to the movement than Don now! Lol... Way to do half assed research! I suppose Craig Rubin is a huge leader in MMJ according to you too! Why didn't you interview Joe Elford or William Dolphin? Oh wait, that might not work to your agenda! After all, according to the weekly, they are just profiteers... Same with Stephanie Landa, Tom Kikuchi and Steele Smith!!!
I'm just going to finish by saying: Medical Marijuana is a huge financial gain for the Weekly. We have started a hard campaign to have every Medical Marijuana facility stop advertising with the Weekly ASAP. When your advertising department asks why, we show them this article. You are completely responsible for that Mr. McDonald. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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Lenny/Justonevoice 11/26/2009 11:31:00 PM
For Kevin
one word answer- Parenting
Collectives do not allow anyone under the age of 18 and some 21 to enter period. If kids are getting "Medical" Marijuana they must be getting it from a friend of age. Now this is not different from liquor is it?
And who said that kids where caught with "Medical" Marijuan and are we sure that it was Medical? How do we know? As this article has displayed you can not believe eveything that you read in the paper sometimes ya gotta do some homework and get involved.
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Lenny/Justonevoice 11/26/2009 11:24:00 PM
Patrick there where no back room deals, I know becuase for several years I worked with the larger group of operators when I was one alongside Don Duncan and for you to say that because there where emails there must be back room deals is rediculous.
The Neighborhood Groups should have been there in the working group along side advocates,police ,city staffers,CA and Council Members. It is not our fault that they where not paying attention.
I personally think that the City should form a panel consisting of Patients (real ones not recreational users),neighborhood reps and of course City Staffers and council members to not only form regulation but also monitor it.
Legalization: Not every patient believe's in legalization, that is simply politics I am speaking from a medical Stand Point and not as a means to legalization.
Truth be told Patyrick your article is not accuate and at times slanderous. This is not responsible journalism what so ever.
Yes,you are correct it is a shame that so many profiteers and oppoutunist have gotten into this and I believe that many if not all of them can be removed with out harm to those patients needing the medicine. Your article only helped to perpetuate that all people whom smoke cannabis are stoners and pot heads as you can see by the above post from people whom do not believe in the Efficacy of the plant.
Bottom line is that your paper will now feel the effect and the will of the people because truth be told we are the majority and we not only vote at the ballot box but also with our pocket books.
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Patrick Range McDonald 11/26/2009 11:00:00 PM
Thanks for all of those comments. The validity of the need and use of medical marijuana is not the issue with this piece, and we made it clear that the medical marijuana movement is getting a "black eye" due to all of the controversies surrounding it--controversies that some so-called medical marijuana advocates have participated in as well as City Hall's horrible handling of it.
We realize there are people who are truly sick and need this medicine, which the article mentions. But when you start fiddling with a law that was created by the voters (and hold back room deals with no input from the general public), you will obviously turn off people who first supported you and endanger your own cause...and for good reason.
With some of these comments, it seems to me a little reflection from certain people in the medical marijuana community--if they're truly a part of that community...they appear to be more with the legal pot camp--is needed. In other words, what was your role in this mess? A lot of finger pointing has been taking place, with few taking responsibility. I even asked Don Duncan this question, and he initially came up with nothing. When pressed, he said maybe neighborhood groups should have been more involved in the working group and other things. Maybe.
We went into this piece not knowing what we were going to find and were completely open-minded. When we started getting facts, we had long discussions--hours and hours long and well into the night--about what we were finding and what those facts meant. We took this entire project very, very seriously and understood that a worthy cause--medical marijuana for truly sick people--was at the center of this fiasco. We wanted to be very sensitive to that fact. After two months of thorough reporting, we found certain facts and trends that became alarming for anyone who's pro-medical marijuana and a citizen of LA. We went with the facts we found, and reported them in this story.
People now like to point the finger at us, which is fine, that's part of the job. But I suggest you also take a hard look at your own leaders--their motivations and their actions...past, present, and future.
Take care,
Patrick Range McDonald
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Kevin Glynn 11/26/2009 10:56:00 PM
I've yet to hear any reasonable solution to keeping kids from selling medical marijuana on campus other than telling them not to do it. For those who are sick and feel better for marijuana use, good luck to you. But the rest of us need an answer to the question: what about the kids?
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Lenny/Justonevoice 11/26/2009 10:43:00 PM
Well no we do not part I here to agree that we do not need all of the MMJ facilities that we currently have however we must remember that these serve sick people and sick people are all over the place. Some can not get around well and need them nereby. Unlike many of the Alcohol establishments I believe that once we have reasonable (Key word) regulation and have smoe does & don'ts that we will see collectives becoming vital positive additions to neighrborhood around lA,especially if we require each one too have at least one State Licensed Security Guard to patrol those areas.One of the reasons why Downtown & Hollywood has been cleaned up a bit is becuase there are security roaming the streets whom will observe and report all crimes to police for enforcement.
I believe that we should start with abotu 400 total collectives Citywide and then come back later to evaluate the progress of our regulation.
I believe in neighborhood right no different than anyone else but we can not allow our decision making process while debating the ordinance be based on unfounded fears either.
You know the funny thing about Eagle Rock is that I and a friend openned the first collective in that area years ago and most did not even know we where there other than patients and Officer Gallindo and of course our imediate neighbors. We never had problems with our neighbors what so ever because we instituted a good neighbor policy and had our Security patroling the neighborhod and we prevented car thefts,hit & runs and even drug dealing that was going on in the neighborhood before we got there.
My Point is simple "Do not throw the babby out with the bath water".
Neighborhood Groups are good as long as they work with all in thier neighborhood and for some of these groups to be propagating lies and using their power to enforce the NIMBY theroy on this issue is wrong becuase truht be told it is a Medical Issue and please do not forget that.
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Jim Tanner 11/26/2009 10:19:00 PM
weedtracker: Please reconsider your decision. It's business, not personal. Just look at CIM, the LA Weekly did a great article about them that wasn't exactly flattering. But they advertise their Hollywood and Highland complex because they know its good for business. They looked at the demographics and it was a sound business decision.
So weedtracker, just grow up and get over it. And don't let your emotions and "feelings" drive your business decisions. That's just too immature.