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Todd Holland's Advice to Play it Straight

Gay Director Apologizes and Debates Ensue

On July 12, 20 men and womenwalked into the Directors Guild of America building on Sunset Boulevard and handed over purple tickets with black lettering that read, “Taking It to the Streets: LGBT Directors Get Political.” The event was sponsored by Outfest, a leading gay and lesbian film festival. But when Emmy-winning director Todd Holland began speaking, it initially appeared as if festival organizers had invited the wrong, far-too-safe panelist.

Introducing himself as one of the “least political” directors on the stage, which he shared with filmmakers Kirby Dick, Freida Lee Mock, Jamie Babbit, Katherine Brooks and Charles Herman-Wurmfeld, Holland announced that “my whole thing about being political is kissing my husband at the Emmys.” The gay director added that “just living honestly” was also a “political thing.”

Within a few minutes, Holland would, controversially, throw that relatively mundane and safe political stand out the window. It grew interesting after Dick, a straight man and director of Outrage, a documentary about closeted, gay politicians, said that during his research for Outrage, he looked into the issue of closeted, gay actors. Dick concluded: “There is an argument to be made that the Hollywood gay community is not doing enough in this area. ... There’s an unwillingness to take this on.”

Holland spoke right after Dick, but he addressed filmmaker Herman-Wurmfeld’s initial question, “What can we do?” about closeted actors. Holland, citing the extremely competitive nature of the entertainment business, said that when young, gay actors ask for his advice on whether or not they should come out in Hollywood, “I say, ‘Stay in the closet.’ ”

Dick responded to Holland’s remark, describing it as a “regressive argument.” But Herman-Wurmfeld seemed uncomfortable with the debate, and quickly ended the discussion by showing a clip of an unrelated movie.

Holland, a 47-year-old gay man who has become a success with critically acclaimed TV shows such as The Larry Sanders Showand Malcolm in the Middle, is an informal mentor to young, gay male actors. They seek his advice, he told the Outfest audience, and he routinely tells them to stay in the closet.

A day later, many in the gay and straight community were aghast. Several days later, the debate over Holland’s views shows no signs of letting up.

“It perpetuates internalized homophobia, that self-hatred,” says Robin McGehee, a leading gay-rights activist in California, and one of the key organizers of the Meet in the Middle pro–gay marriage rally in Fresno several weeks ago. “It’s what leads kids to kill themselves, it’s what leads gay people to get involved in straight marriages. ... The sick thing is that [Holland’s comments] are coming from one of our people.”

Rick Jacobs, the gay founder of Courage Campaign, a progressive, grassroots political group, agrees. “It’s very important to have mentors tell younger people to be themselves. Anything else harms them.”

Holland’s advice to young gay actors might be the result of his family experience. As he explained at the Outfest panel, he “came out late in life” but his brother came out at a younger age. Holland said his family didn’t handle it well.

But in trying to help young actors avoid career risks, entertainment insiders say, Holland may actually be giving them bad business and creative advice. Variety Managing Editor Ted Johnson, an openly gay man who has covered gays in Hollywood, says staying in the closet is “antiquated.” He explains that the special grooming for superstardom isn’t necessary anymore. “We’re not living in the age of megastars,” Johnson says. “The energy they would have to devote to staying in the closet could actually be used to being better actors.”

Holland’s advice “is a relic of 10 years ago,” the managing editor adds. “The times have changed very quickly.”

Longtime filmmaker Lionel Chetwynd, a straight man who has faced his own difficulties in Hollywood by not hiding his conservative politics in an industry run by mostly liberals, concurs that Holland’s advice is way off the mark. “It’s counterintuitive,” says Chetwynd, director of the controversial 1987 true story The Hanoi Hilton, adding, “If you aspire to be creative, you must be who you are. Being creative requires an honesty.”

On July 14, after nationwide criticism of his remarks, Holland released a public apology through Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), a media-watchdog group. “As an openly gay man in Hollywood,” the carefully worded statement reads, “I know firsthand the tremendous challenges that people throughout the industry face in terms of being open about who they are. For people who know me, they know that I believe it’s important for people to live openly and authentically, and I am sorry for my poorly chosen words at Outfest. At the end of the day, I hope my comments do not prevent us from having honest, thoughtful conversations about the significant barriers that make being an out actor in Hollywood an ongoing obstacle.”

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  • David Ehrenstein 07/28/2009 10:11:00 PM

    My but the KAPOS are out in force to defend Holland. There is no defense. Live with it.

  • Miki jackson 07/24/2009 11:09:00 PM

    I think the most salient point is what a big issue to closet or not to closet still is. The closet still looms as perhaps the biggest single issue for many GLBT people and that is the take home in this debate. The personal is very political in this arena, but the political is also highly personal. Show Biz and controversies within it are often a stand in for issues for people in real life rather than it's heightened reel life version. To pretend that being out does not have it's dangers, personal, professional and physical is unrealistic. Often those of us who live in a very "out" version of life, as people who are in some way part of the GLBT out and out there milieu need to be mindful of this. While I live very out and hope that others will make the same decision to do so, I do want to acknowledge the consequences that decision can have. I think it wisest to welcome people and to work to create a safe and rewarding place for us all to be out in so to speak, rather than push them through the closet door. I often want to say to people, do be out, it really can make and save one's life, but do know what that may mean on both the up side and the not so easy to deal with side. Safety is an issue, as GLBT bashings and even killings remind us. There are some places where it is very dangerous to be out and knowing that can be vital. Getting away from that as soon as possible is an important thing to take very seriously. People do lose professional opportunities over it, depending on the environment and the particular situation.The reverse is sometimes true also. While I doubt that physical danger is so much an issue for people in the "Hollywood" life, as it was pointed out, those messages go way beyond "Hollywood" environs. In the end it is a very personal journey for each of us. The more of us who are out, the easier it is for the next person to be there. Indeed, the "to be out or not to be out" is a question that never goes away for us. Even if one is out oneself, there are always particular situations where safety for oneself and perhaps others can come up. Of course in the wild spin of the world of politics and Hollywood, there are so many ways to put a foot wrong - as Mr. Holland found out - there is quicksand everywhere.

  • Richard Day 07/24/2009 10:53:00 AM

    You get the feeling McDonald has never had a scoop before. There he was at a lightly-attended Outfest panel when a big-shot director Todd Holland said something that could be taken the wrong way! What did he say? That depends whom you ask, and in McDonald�s case, when you ask him. In his breathless first post on the subject, �Holland told a small audience that he advises young, gay male actors to �stay in the closet.� But time, of course, sharpens our memories; these days McDonald more fully remembers that Holland also provided a shaky reasoning for an alarming context: Holland spoke right after Dick, but he addressed filmmaker Herman-Wurmfeld�s initial question, �What can we do?� about closeted actors. Holland, citing the extremely competitive nature of the entertainment business, said that when young, gay actors ask for his advice on whether or not they should come out in Hollywood, �I say, �Stay in the closet.�� You might be wondering what Holland remembers saying. Unless, apparently, you are a McDonald, who seems to have made no attempt to contact the filmmaker during his five-day jag of hyping this story, and repeatedly ignored questions as to whether he�d bothered even as he expansively bristled at perceived slights within the same communications. It�s certainly not hard to find out. Holland wrote a long piece for the Wrap recounting what he said, explaining what he meant, and expanding on the subject. Here is a quote from it: �My damning words were: �If you are that .002 percent ... I can't tell you to come out.� I never said stay in the closet. And that matters. My meaning in �I can't tell you to come out� is inherently parental. Translation: �If you take the path of coming out, you will be living authentically -- and that is a great achievement in anyone�s life. But I can't promise you're going to skirt the gatekeepers or scale the hurdles the system has in place.�� The full piece can be accessed at: http://www.thewrap.com/article/director-todd-holland-gay-actors-coming-out_4435?page=1 The piece, which has been online since Monday, reveals a much more innocuous wording, context, and reasoning than any of the several absurdities McDonald had taking to drumming up as the week wore on and eyeballs wandered. Even if McDonald were to insist that his ever-evolving version of what Holland said is the correct one, ginning up what Holland must have meant is no longer possible, given Holland�s three page essay on the topic. So what was McDonald�s response, after several straight days of painting Holland as a retrograde, self-loathing and mind-twisting monster? Nothing. Until today, that is, when he regurgitates and even further embroiders all his earlier intentionally-obtuse misreadings and completely ignores Holland�s exculpatory response to his attacks. Well, in fairness he did respond less publicly. In an email to me, McDonald writes: "He's basically trying to deflect the criticism against him by saying it was crazy bloggers who wrote about his remarks. Not good. An award-winning journalist--me--was sitting in the audience at that Outfest panel, not a wild-eyed blogger." Ahhh. Holland does take a shot or two at bloggers in his piece, and after the week he�d had thanks to them can you blame him? He then goes on to do quite the opposite of deflect blame � he does what one might expect an �award-winning journalist� to do: Get beyond hyped-up outrage to the truth. But McDonald couldn�t absorb that part; his feelings were hurt. There isn�t much substance to any of this little teapot tempest, despite McDonald�s wishful thinking that we haven�t heard the last of it. But it has been useful in exposing a small cancer within our little community: McDonald himself. �If you know anything about me and my work, you'd know that �self-promotion� or �view hits� never enters my mind.� I know nothing about him and am done subjecting myself to his work, but this statement is laughable. Each day McDonald twisted a mis-remembered version of a sentence fragment Holland said while giving up his Sunday to help Outfest into increasingly incendiary if preposterous supposed meanings. The whole time Holland was an email away, but why risk letting him let the air out of the story? And once Holland did let the air out of McDonald�s story, McDonald moved on. No apology. He didn�t even attempt to integrate Holland�s new statements into his thesis, if he still believed it. And today he willfully ignores widely-available proof that everything he is peddling again today is incorrect. This is not award-caliber journalism. It�s not even baseline-quality blogging. It�s Fox News tactics employed by an immature, thin-skinned, ethically-challenged gay man against a fellow gay man who seems to more-reasonable minds to have made only the mistake of noticing an unpleasant fact. That kind of toxic, destructive empathy-free willful dishonesty doled out daily and weekly on a widely-read site strikes me as far more damaging to us gays in the long term than anything even you could imagine Holland said. But hey, it's your life.

  • Richard Day 07/24/2009 10:53:00 AM

    You get the feeling McDonald has never had a scoop before. There he was at a lightly-attended Outfest panel when a big-shot director Todd Holland said something that could be taken the wrong way! What did he say? That depends whom you ask, and in McDonald�s case, when you ask him. In his breathless first post on the subject, �Holland told a small audience that he advises young, gay male actors to �stay in the closet.� But time, of course, sharpens our memories; these days McDonald more fully remembers that Holland also provided a shaky reasoning for an alarming context: Holland spoke right after Dick, but he addressed filmmaker Herman-Wurmfeld�s initial question, �What can we do?� about closeted actors. Holland, citing the extremely competitive nature of the entertainment business, said that when young, gay actors ask for his advice on whether or not they should come out in Hollywood, �I say, �Stay in the closet.�� You might be wondering what Holland remembers saying. Unless, apparently, you are a McDonald, who seems to have made no attempt to contact the filmmaker during his five-day jag of hyping this story, and repeatedly ignored questions as to whether he�d bothered even as he expansively bristled at perceived slights within the same communications. It�s certainly not hard to find out. Holland wrote a long piece for the Wrap recounting what he said, explaining what he meant, and expanding on the subject. Here is a quote from it: �My damning words were: �If you are that .002 percent ... I can't tell you to come out.� I never said stay in the closet. And that matters. My meaning in �I can't tell you to come out� is inherently parental. Translation: �If you take the path of coming out, you will be living authentically -- and that is a great achievement in anyone�s life. But I can't promise you're going to skirt the gatekeepers or scale the hurdles the system has in place.�� The full piece can be accessed at: http://www.thewrap.com/article/director-todd-holland-gay-actors-coming-out_4435?page=1 The piece, which has been online since Monday, reveals a much more innocuous wording, context, and reasoning than any of the several absurdities McDonald had taking to drumming up as the week wore on and eyeballs wandered. Even if McDonald were to insist that his ever-evolving version of what Holland said is the correct one, ginning up what Holland must have meant is no longer possible, given Holland�s three page essay on the topic. So what was McDonald�s response, after several straight days of painting Holland as a retrograde, self-loathing and mind-twisting monster? Nothing. Until today, that is, when he regurgitates and even further embroiders all his earlier intentionally-obtuse misreadings and completely ignores Holland�s exculpatory response to his attacks. Well, in fairness he did respond less publicly. In an email to me, McDonald writes: "He's basically trying to deflect the criticism against him by saying it was crazy bloggers who wrote about his remarks. Not good. An award-winning journalist--me--was sitting in the audience at that Outfest panel, not a wild-eyed blogger." Ahhh. Holland does take a shot or two at bloggers in his piece, and after the week he�d had thanks to them can you blame him? He then goes on to do quite the opposite of deflect blame � he does what one might expect an �award-winning journalist� to do: Get beyond hyped-up outrage to the truth. But McDonald couldn�t absorb that part; his feelings were hurt. There isn�t much substance to any of this little teapot tempest, despite McDonald�s wishful thinking that we haven�t heard the last of it. But it has been useful in exposing a small cancer within our little community: McDonald himself. �If you know anything about me and my work, you'd know that �self-promotion� or �view hits� never enters my mind.� I know nothing about him and am done subjecting myself to his work, but this statement is laughable. Each day McDonald twisted a mis-remembered version of a sentence fragment Holland said while giving up his Sunday to help Outfest into increasingly incendiary if preposterous supposed meanings. The whole time Holland was an email away, but why risk letting him let the air out of the story? And once Holland did let the air out of McDonald�s story, McDonald moved on. No apology. He didn�t even attempt to integrate Holland�s new statements into his thesis, if he still believed it. And today he willfully ignores widely-available proof that everything he is peddling again today is incorrect. This is not award-caliber journalism. It�s not even baseline-quality blogging. It�s Fox News tactics employed by an immature, thin-skinned, ethically-challenged gay man against a fellow gay man who seems to more-reasonable minds to have made only the mistake of noticing an unpleasant fact. That kind of toxic, destructive empathy-free willful dishonesty doled out daily and weekly on a widely-read site strikes me as far more damaging to us gays in the long term than anything even you could imagine Holland said. But hey, it's your life.

  • BlackCat79 07/24/2009 2:22:00 AM

    I have so many thoughts -- none of them good -- about this poorly written and contextualized story. But mostly, I end up feeling bad for Todd Holland. The writer, Patrick Range McDonald, spends three-fourths of the piece lining up shots against Holland then at the very end, finally acknowledges: oh yeah, maybe Holland does have a point. God help you if you have the temerity to express an opinion that doesn't fit with the Gay Party Line. It would be great if we could all live honestly and openly in a world that didn't discriminate against people for doing that. But real life is messy. People are routinely discriminated against for all sorts of reasons: race, gender, age, sexual orientation, weight, etc. Perhaps a gay actor really does have an easier time getting parts and making a living if he or she is closeted. Maybe McDonald should ASK some gay actors who have come out about how it affected their careers. Maybe McDonald should contextualize this discussion with the recent coming-out of American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert and contrast that with previous AI winner Clay Aiken. Maybe McDonald should do some real journalism instead of allowing what are obviously press releases and PR quotes hijack his story. As for all those people bashing Holland and crowing about "living honestly and openly" (whatever that vague New Age phrase means), I wonder how many of them have ever lied in a personal ad. Naaah, I'm sure they all have an 8-inch cock and washboard abs.

 

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