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Russian or Armenian Mob Used "Model Employee" Con at PCH Arco

Redondo police search for the elusive "Erick" — and $300,000

An organized-crime ring that police believe is Russian or Armenian targeted a high-volume Redondo Beach Arco gas station, assigned a low-level soldier to infiltrate it and waited eight months while he worked himself into a position where he could implant a tiny, high-tech “skimmer” to steal customers’ credit-card information.

Armed with a fresh batch of personal-information numbers, the gang began draining thousands of Southern California bank accounts soon after “Erick,” the model employee who was by then entrusted with opening the station every day at 5 a.m., vanished in late April along with 1,500 packs of cigarettes, $1,000, a laptop, his employee application form — and the two digital video recorders used for surveillance.

Because the Arco is at a prime location at the bustling corner of Pacific Coast Highway and Prospect Avenue, the skimmer scam left a string of more than 1,000 victims, stretching from Santa Barbara to Newport Beach.

The “model employee” con represents an elite level of criminal sophistication in its planning, patience and execution, police say, which is now appearing in the South Bay and Los Angeles.

“This was an organized-crime ring that knew exactly what they were doing and very carefully lay in wait before they finally struck,” Redondo Police Department detective Mike Strosnider, heading the investigation, tells L.A. Weekly. “This has been done before in other places around the world. . It’s just never been done in our city.”

The Redondo police investigation began in mid-May after a torrent of complaints from customers, including an undisclosed number of ripped-off Redondo police officers, whose bank accounts had been drained with a series of withdrawals of about $300 to $500. The victims proved to have one common denominator: They all bought gas at the busy Arco on PCH.

The investigation is now focused on tracking down and arresting the man who called himself Erick Volonski, and taking down the global gang that planned and executed the scam and used him as its financial Trojan horse.

Luckily, the detective says, the Redondo Police Department has a photo of Erick, who is now wanted for robbery and ATM fraud. That single, slightly blurred photo exists only because of an extraordinary piece of luck that, in hindsight, seems like a red flag that something about Erick was amiss.

The picture was taken in February by a photographer for an architectural firm, who was shooting the station in preparation for a major Arco makeover. When Erick realized he had been photographed, he instantly became agitated and rushed into the office to ask manager John Wartanian to have the digital photo deleted.

Wartanian was surprised and irritated by the request.

“I finally asked the photographer to do it, just to make Erick happy, and he said to tell Erick he had deleted it, but he didn’t do it,” Wartanian tells the Weekly. “So that’s what I did. I told Erick it was deleted, even though it wasn’t, and he stopped freaking out. . It seemed a little suspicious, but I let it go.”

The station’s smog-check technician, Philip Malik, said he thought Erick’s explanation that he didn’t want girlfriends seeing his picture on the Internet was weak but semiplausible.

“It seemed a little weird that he would be so upset about having his picture taken, but I didn’t think anything like this could be happening,” Malik says. “Maybe I should have realized he was into something criminal, but here at the station where he worked? I’ve never heard of anything like this happening . anywhere.”

When the story of the skimmer scam first broke in Los Angeles media outlets weeks ago, it was a 48-hour sensation on TV news. But employees at the Arco station said the first wave of mainstream media, during which the station was ringed with TV satellite trucks, sensationalized the case and buried the fact that, so far, all the victims have had their stolen money, now approaching $300,000, reimbursed by their respective banks.

Nor did the first wave of media have time for the human-interest story behind the news: the betrayal of the kind of day-to-day work friendship that can quickly develop between employees at blue-collar, minimum-wage jobs, often held by young males from other countries with little or no family here and no fluency in English.

“I thought of Erick as a friend,” says Malik. “He was a sweetheart of a guy.”

Malik describes the tall, skinny Erick as a gentle, humble man who worked hard, asked a lot of questions but never talked about himself, did not appear to have a car and walked to work every day, never accepting a ride home and never using the station’s phone.

“But there were a couple of times I found him talking on his cell phone, whispering on the phone,” Malik says. “He said it was his girlfriend . that she was in the hospital.”

Erick, he says, was a model employee and a good guy to be around.

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  • Bla 10/14/2011 7:24:00 AM

    razmik fuck you and your cunt mother fucking mother. Eat dick you punck, hating slimy bitch.

  • Erick Volonski is revealed 10/07/2011 8:02:00 PM

    YES, I discovered by coincidence some kind of connection, which may can solve this case and give a hint to the kingpins of that organised scam... THIS IS A TRUE STORY, which may sounds unreal, but it isn't because I can prove it.... In the Year 2005 a native Armenian was sentencest to prison in Germany, he appeled to a higher court in Germany, but lost, and the higher Court confirmed the Prison sentence. Right before he had to go to Prison, he organised a fake passport with a fake name, and escaped to the United States, that was in the summer of 2006. He committed crimes in Germany: Fraud, Creditcard Fraud, Insurance Fraud (fake Accidents), Bank Fraud and and other heinous crimes. 2006 the american Border Patrol discovered his fake passport, and they put him into a "Immigration camp" in El Paso / TX. He had Court hearings ect., but he skipped court and there is a warrant out for his arrest since March 13, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VTrnEPY0xU This armenian guy also ripped off my parents, and I'am looking for him since 5 years now! This year 2011, I had to learn, that he and his wife run a business "Firma Fashion" in Glendale/California on California Avenue. I started to investigate all that, and I started to watch Videos at Youtube, to learn more about the Environment in Glendale, where he is living in. By coincidence, I stumbled over a Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTmL4goF4nA ( he is the guy with sunglasses and the blue collar shirt, 12...13...and 14 seconds after this movie starts) and recognized him.... Next step was, to figure out, who is the maker of this movie, and I read RAZMIK HARTUNIAN so, I put his Name in a google search engine http://www.google.de/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Razmik+Hartunian&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=ReuMTuajMeql0QXFhp3BBQ and have read the very first article "LAWEEKLY" where exactly this Razmik Hartunian wrote several comments on 07/30/2009 6:43:0 and even admitted to be aware of some people who are involved in making, selling and distribute fake documents for fellow Armenians... something, which will fit exactly the criminal behavior of Armen Gukusan / Gukasan, who is already a fugitive and ordered to be Deported in an american Courthouse by an American Judge. Armen Gukusan / Gukasan is really in need of having fake papers and documents such as fake drivers License and passports ect. in order to deceive american law enforcement and police about this true criminal identity and his warrants. http://www.laweekly.com/2009-06-18/news/russian-or-armenian-mob-used-quot-model-employee-quot-con-at-pch-arco/ I read your article, and have seen a photo of the elusive "ERICK VOLONSKI" http://vvoice.vo.llnwd.net/e14//3525241.28.jpg I pretty sure, that I have seen the elusive "Erick Volonski" before. I did not met him in person, but Armen Gukusan / Gukasan showed me in the year 2006 some pictures of his "Hometown" in Germany in Reutlingen and Tübingen (which is in the "Bundesland" Baden-Württemberg), and he told me, that he has a brother as well. He even showed me a picture of his brother, but this is 5 years ago. I think, to recognize the real "Erick Volonski".... he might is the brother or some other friend / relative of Armen Gukusan / Gukasan, because I swear to have seen a photo of this guy before! And of course, if you compare the photo of "Erick Volonski" and Armen Gukusan / Gukasan, there is some similarity indeed. Of course, Erick Volonski is not his real name, and of course he was in possession of a fake drivers License like Armen Gukusan / Gukasan. And his fake Name VOLONSKI is may not as fake, as we want to believe. Well at least, even this has some connection with our "dear friend" Armen Gukusan / Gukasan. Armen Gukusan / Gukasan married on June 19, 2006 his wife Margarita Volujskij in Las Vegas/Nevada. Evidence: EMail between the German FBI and the German Consulte in Los Angeles / California of April 29, 2011 as seen in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EyJm30VkNo His wife Margarita Volujskij is wanted and a fugitive too, even she obtained a fraudulent Greencard by making false statements to the american Immigration authorities to conceal her criminal backgrounds and criminal history of Defrauding people. As you can see in the video, there are at least 2 warrants for the arrest of Margarita Volujskij issued by the German Courts File-Number: 22 Js 21926/08 and File-Number: 7 Ls 22 Js 6181/05 So, as you can see and recognize, the picture of the elusive "Erick Volonski" and Armen Gukusan / Gukasan are very similar, and almost look alike, the same as the Name Volonski and Volujskij are sounds similar.... and this is the way it is: As soon as Armen Gukasan escapated the arrest in Germany, he switched his Name to Armen Gukusan, by just switching one letter from an "A" to an "U", to delude american Immigration officiers. Looks like, he prefer similar Names to make up he already knows, just like it was with "Erick Volonski" done.... Armen Gukusan / Gukasan and Margarita Volujskij, a criminal armenian and russian couple committed Fraud in Germany for years and years until their instand arrest came close. Now, they pulling off the same crab in California. They just became smarter and smarter as the years went by, and didn't do the "footwork" anymore themself. Get them off the streets and execute the already excisting warrants, because they wont stop!!!! Where Armen Gukasan / Gukusan and his wife Margarita Volujskij are, there is the elusive Erick Volonski not far away.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Z06b29_X4 WANTED by Police and "ICE" Homeland Security (Immigration) 1.) the elusive "Erick Volonski" 2.) Armen Gukasan / Gukusan 3.) Margarita Volujskij

  • armenian 08/19/2010 9:29:00 AM

    ARMENIANN POWER

  • razmik hartunian 07/30/2009 6:43:00 PM

    Two ex-officials of Armenian Consulate arrested See, I told you these people only commit fraud and now they've proven they commit another form of fraud read below. Federal authorities have arrested five people - including two former Armenian Consulate officials - suspected of selling documents to at least 24 convicted Armenian felons in the U.S. to help them avoid deportation to Armenia. The five, accused of obstructing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement proceedings, appeared Tuesday in U.S. District Court downtown. The arrests that began Monday followed a two-year investigation of the scheme, which was allegedly generated by word of mouth through the Armenian community. Felons allegedly paid up to $35,000 each for the documents. "The charges raised in this case are extremely serious and very troubling," said Robert Schoch, special agent in charge of ICE investigations in Los Angeles. "The defendants allegedly exploited their community ties and knowledge of the immigration system to help dangerous criminals, among others, avoid deportation." The arrests include Norair Ghalumian, 52, of Burbank, who served as the Armenian consul in Los Angeles from 1999 to 2003. Hakop Hovanesyan, 54, of Glendale, another former employee of the Armenian Consulate in Los Angeles, was arrested Monday. Ghalumian and Hovanesyan were not working for the Armenian Consulate when they were allegedly engaged in the suspected crimes, said Thom Mrozek, U.S. Attorney's Office spokesman. Other arrests include Margarita Mkrtchyan, 41, of Glendale, who works as an immigration attorney for Inman and Associates in Beverly Hills. Elvis Madatyan, 47, of Glendale and Oganes Nardos, 36, of Valencia are also accused. The charges carry a maximum penalty of five years in prison. Authorities allege the five worked independently using contacts in the Armenian government to get letters issued from the former Soviet Union republic stating there was no record of these people being Armenian citizens. But federal officials believe these are Armenian citizens who are subject to deportation. Nearly all had felony convictions in U.S. courts, which led to deportation procedures, Mrozek said. Mrozek said there are likely more people who paid thousands of dollars for fraudulent letters. Through search warrants, immigration officials have confiscated additional refusal letters and official stationery from the Armenian Consulate from homes and offices of the five arrested. "These defendants endangered the safety and security of United States residents," said U.S. Attorney Thomas P. O'Brien. Meanwhile the future of the felons who allegedly paid for the bogus letters remains unclear. These people are FELONS what is UNCLEAR about that ? Deport these SOB's! They've already shown this country they are criminals who dont deserve a second chance. Kick em the hell out of here! Officials will review the people involved on a case-by-case basis, said ICE spokeswoman Virginia Kice. What is there to review Mrs. Kice? These people are criminals that should not be allowed to walk and breath in this great country.

  • Elizabeth 07/30/2009 10:32:00 AM

    Razmik I'm very sorry you had that experience. Clearly it must have been a really bad experience for you to still have so much anger about it. I know something of what it is like to live in a place that becomes hazadous to ones life, so I pray that you stay safe. I am also very sorry that your experience has caused you to take such a negative view of a group of people. I did not grow up in LA, which is its own social mess regardless of a person's ethnicy, but their has been fraud, fleecing, and other crimes among other races as well. Regardless of what you think, my Armenian grandfather was a good man who, rather than using welfare, died with executive experience from Western Union and GE.

  • razmik hartunian 07/25/2009 2:49:00 AM

    Srbui, I will have to school you. First and foremost I smashed a fraud ring. The suspects arrested were dirty stinky armo's and russians. To add insult to the injury I inflicted on them, I'm not even law enforcement. Go figure. I hit them so hard their mothers felt it. Yep. I bitch slapped them and I'm still walking around laughing about it. I taught these lil biotches never to steal from us again. They are sitting in some prison cell right now grabbing their ankles. And though I may live in the shadow of their syndicate, with the unspoken understanding that one day I may become a victim of its violence and social impotence, I showed them a man can rise above them and show others the power to right a wrong is and always has been in our hands, we are under siege. Today and forever more... I showed them one person can make a difference, I showed them we can resist ! I showed them we're not going to take it anymore. Sure, you can flaunt your wealth all you want but we all know your dirty scum, fleecing every government assistance program out there, especially welfare and paying for your nice new european cars by collecting welfare checks, unemployment, & disability. Pick one. We also know you buy legitimate businesses to launder your dirty money you SOB's. My image is forever seared into their memories. The one man that brought them to their knees, the one man that put it all together, and gave them the Coup De Grace, they so rightfully deserved. Yep, I'm packing heat now, I grew some eyes behind my head and maybe one day they'll get lucky and catch me slipping but until that day comes...I am legend.

  • Srbui 07/18/2009 4:59:00 AM

    �Razmik,� I can�t help but wonder at what in the world you were thinking when you created your screen name: �Razmik Hartunian.� Why would you attribute an Armenian-sounding name to yourself, when from your very crude comments, it sounds like you want �Armenians banned from this country,� and that you are not Armenian yourself. Come on now, this is a very liberal, open country; there is no need to attribute a different name to yourself. And you should definitely waste your energies on something more positive and less hate driven and dehumanizing. Unless it�s some type of reverse psychology or counterintuitive mind-game that you think will convince people that all Armenians are �worthless bastards,� I kindly ask that you stop.

  • Srbui 07/18/2009 4:43:00 AM

    Hi Bashi. It is not a matter of political correctedness, but responsible journalism. The article opens with such a sensational lede��an organized-crime ring that police believe is Russian or Armenian targeted a high-volume Redondo Beach Arco gas station���that places undue emphasis on the ethnic origin of the robber. The author should not have opened his article with a speculative statement about the ethnicity of the robber, but should have made a definite statement that a hard-news piece is supposed to start off with�you know, the traditional �who, what, when, where� that would report on the employee�s recent stealing of $1,000, the cigarettes, laptop, etc. Correlating the identity of the robber with a speculative �Armenian� or �Russian� label merely leads people to make generalizations and build on prejudices�like �Razmik� did�before there is enough evidence for solid conclusions. The article also subtly correlated the criminal to �Armenian,� almost as if it were a mere fact, especially since it discussed the Armenian store owner and manager to such an extent. The article is just one example of the negative portrayal of Armenians in Southern California in media sources. And the generalization that Armenian gang-related operations are growing (identity theft, scam, etc.) is very unsubstantiated and ill-based. As the police officer in the very beginning of the article attests, �This has been done before in other places around the world�it�s just never been done in our city.�

  • Srbui 07/18/2009 4:39:00 AM

    Hi Bashi. It is not a matter of political correctedness, but responsible journalism. The article opens with such a sensational lede��an organized-crime ring that police believe is Russian or Armenian targeted a high-volume Redondo Beach Arco gas station���that places undue emphasis on the ethnic origin of the robber. The author should not have opened his article with a speculative statement about the ethnicity of the robber, but should have made a definite statement that a hard-news piece is supposed to start off with�you know, the traditional �who, what, when, where� that would report on the employee�s recent stealing of $1,000, the cigarettes, laptop, etc. Correlating the identity of the robber with a speculative �Armenian� or �Russian� label merely leads people to make generalizations and build on prejudices�like �Razmik� did�before there is enough evidence for solid conclusions. The article also subtly correlated the criminal to �Armenian,� almost as if it were a mere fact, especially since it discussed the Armenian store owner and manager to such an extent. The article is just one example of the negative portrayal of Armenians in Southern California in media sources. And the generalization that Armenian gang-related operations are growing (identity theft, scam, etc.) is very unsubstantiated and ill-based. As the police officer in the very beginning of the article attests, �This has been done before in other places around the world�it�s just never been done in our city.�

  • Bashi Bazouk 07/17/2009 9:22:00 PM

    What's with all the political correctness in the comments? The writer of this article has not gone out of his way to involve ethnicities, he's just reporting that ethnicity has become an issue in the case, as police suspect a Russian or Armenian gang, and "Erick's" co-workers (who are Armenian), tend to think he was NOT Armenian, and probably Russian (not surprising, since anyone with any sort of ethnic "pride" would not want their ethnic group associated with a criminal image). Distinguish, people! Now all the PC-police can tell me why none of the Russian/Armenian people living in Hollywood seem to have regular 9-5 jobs.

  • Elizabeth 07/17/2009 11:33:00 AM

    I have to agree with the last few comments here. There is a lot of unnecessary speculation presented in this articule that relates to Erick's ethnicity. Responsible journalism should stick to the facts. It doesn't sound likely that he would be Armenian.

  • Big Paul 07/17/2009 7:00:00 AM

    "�Erick,� whoever he is, has left behind confusion, anger and betrayal, even inspiring a heated debate over his true ethnicity. Was he from a Russian crime gang, or an Armenian one?" Why is there such focus on his ethnicity/nationality/whatever? On the facts presented in the article, it's completely irrelevant. There's no substantiation of the claim that the guy (innocent until proven guilty, by the way) was part of an "ethnic" organised crime group. Why couldn't this just be Erick and his buddy Mike (or whatever) defrauding a gas station?

  • ChristinaGallina 07/15/2009 11:12:00 AM

    Like any other crime that takes place, the emphasis should be put on the crime itself and not the possible ethnicity and mob-linkage of the criminal. Once the ethnicity of the criminal is determined, then it is fine to make as many assumptions as you feel is necessary. But, until then, it is best to refrain from doing so.

  • Colette 07/14/2009 5:31:00 AM

    What I don't understand is why they are putting so much emphasis on the ethnic origin of the criminal. The article is about a robbery that has occurred and the ethnicity of the individual, especially when it is unknown, should not be focused on so much. Also, the only connection that the author can make as to the criminal being Armenian is through the fact that he robbed an Armenian-owned store. His given name was not even Armenian and he was said to be speaking in Russian. Either way, there is not enough evidence available to make any claim as to whether he was Russian or Armenian so the issue of his ethnicity is of minimal importance.

  • razmik hartunian 06/26/2009 12:41:00 AM

    These dirty,stinky, armos and russians are thick as thieves. I.C.E please deport these worthless bastards. They are fleecing America with all the fraud they perpetuate. Was anybody aware that Glendale is the highest recipient of welfare fraud in California. Why is that ? It's because Glendale is run by these hairy,ugly, dirty trolls the armenians. Yes it's sad but true. I cant stand these low lives. Every time I see them I cringe. Dont let my s/n fool you. I am not one of them. I just made it up. Anyhow something needs to be done about these criminals. Something along the lines of banning them from entering our country.

  • razmik hartunian 06/25/2009 5:26:00 AM

    In my honest opinion these armos/russians are a monumental burden to law enforcement and society. That's all these people do is fleece and live off the government. They contribute nothing to American society. They are greedy,rude, unintelligent bastards. I wish the US Gov would just depart all of them. Give them a one way ticket back to that 3rd world crapper they come from. Whenever I see one of these people behind a register, I put my credit card or ATM debit card back in my wallet and pay cash. If you google armenian or russian mob you'll see all the scams they perpetuate on society. Medi-Cal Medi-Care fraud, fuel tax fraud, Identity Fraud, Welfare Fraud, Disability Fraud, Unemployment Fraud, Mortgage Fraud, it's disgusting. Too bad Turkey didnt finish them off.

  • joel grossman 06/23/2009 6:16:00 AM

    Hopefully they will find this piece of shit then handcuff him, kneel him down and put a bullet in the back of his head, just like they would do in Armenia.

  • zukibandit 06/23/2009 1:26:00 AM

    So, is there any way that a customer could notice this "high-tech skimmer" on the ATM? Ah Yes, they come to America for a better life! Americans are easy marks I guess.

  • tony 06/22/2009 1:10:00 PM

    for wickym defense attorney' i will tell you this, just because this guy is armenian doesnt mean the bank tellers are doing fraud too. where is your defense on that. only reason they get hired because they are really good at selling checking or savings accounts and also their really good to work with lesss pay. nothing to do with buying BMW, your an attorney and what you drive?? just because ppl have good taste why should they not drive a BMW average armenian around 16 to 30 they work their asses off and if that 18 year old teller puts more than 40 hours a week why not drive a nice car??? and plus we are traditional living with parents so its oferdable to drive a nice car not like LETS get 18 and ran out and live with a roomaate and struggle until god knows when. thats why they drive a BMW and since they live with their families they have easeier time buying a house not like most of you renting all your lifes. and ask yourself why most of the apartment owners in LA are from diffrent countries like chines jewish russian armenian??? i think your a smart guy you already know because they save a lot since they like the tradition not living their parents when they get 18 and for that instead of paying and living with a roomate they but the BMW.

  • TGreene 06/20/2009 11:40:00 PM

    Here's a more likely scenario than the story portrayed in this article. It's possible that the owner Wartanian reported that this clown Erick "stole" the cigs that were likely counterfeit and/or untaxed so the police wouldn't find them in his store when they came to investigate the ATM fraud. It�s also possible the owner's laptop, that was also reported stolen, contained the victims� stolen profiles. Wartanian may have been concerned the application form would either help the cops find "Erick,� or a more likely explanation is that there never was an application form filled out because he did not actually show up to �apply� for a job. What kind of scamming have the station owners been up to that Arco now makes him pay cash for fuel! It wouldn't be the first time that LA-area Armenian and Russian gas station owners with mob ties were alleged to be involved in criminal fraud schemes. It appears to me that these thieves screwed up, and now they are getting unwanted media coverage and scrutiny from law enforcement and ARCO. I can't buy off on Wartanian as some just another victim that lost $15,000 to "Erick." The decoy has been relocated and Wartanian is the last person that wants "Erick" found.

  • Ben Fotovich 06/20/2009 12:04:00 AM

    Thanks for setting me straight, Lin. But, there's a country called the Republic of Armenia. So, are they an ethnicity or a nationality? Not all Armenians who live here are US Citizens. Splitting hairs here, I know. So, for all intents and purposes your statement is not incorrect, Lin. willyk- Thank you for the information about the crime happening more than what was shown in the article.

  • willyk 06/19/2009 6:03:00 AM

    I'm a defense lawyer and can tell you that this kind of skimmer scam has been happening for years - and I hate to say it, they primarily happen, at least in the L.A. area, at Armenian-owned gas stations. Another favored target of Armenian gangs is to use girlfriends to work as bank tellers and they can note who is making big deposits. At both such places you will notice clerks and tellers driving BMW's and Benz's.

  • Lynda 06/19/2009 4:20:00 AM

    I was the victim of something like this, also at an ARCO station. I had stopped at the one on Firestone Blvd just off the 710, heading home. The outside card reader was disabled, so I had to pay inside. The clerk said she's make the amount for $200 and then when I came in for the receipt it would be updated. I wasn't too happy about it but there were a lot of people in line behind me (one man standing too close, I felt) and I tried to cover the pad when I punched in my code. This was at night, and it wasn't until a couple days later when I went to withdraw from an ATM that I saw my balance had plummeted. I contacted BofA and they did get on it immediately. There were able to identify that it was a male who had withdrawn the money from various San Gabriel Valley ATMS and the whole amount was credited back to my account. I had explained about the outdoor accesses being disabled and they advised me to NOT use the indoor one if that happened, pay a small amount of cash to get enough cash to go to another station with working outdoor service. I asked them if there was a pattern to this sort of theft and they said they couldn't comment (this is after one person I originally spoke with asked "was this an ARCO station" before I had finished my explanation. While I will buy from ARCO if needed it's only from outside, and if that's not possible I make a mental note to not patronize that store again. And this has happened more than a couple of times over a period of 6 years. I've not had a problem with any other brands... Also: I had asked BofA if I should complain to ARCO and they said they would recommend it, but I had no luck getting any response....transferred then disconnected, etc. Not good business.

  • Lin 06/19/2009 3:01:00 AM

    Sorry Ben, but what makes you think it's not possibly a Russian mob? I'm also confused...you say it could be Armenian or something else, and then counter that with "it's not ethnically based"? If I recall correctly, "Armenian" is an ethnicity. This kind of operation has been going on at gas stations for years, though usually the owner of the joint is in on it.

  • Ben Fotovich 06/19/2009 12:34:00 AM

    I don't believe it is Russian. It could be Armenian or something else, not ethnically based. The possibility it's Armenian is there. From my understanding, here in Denver, there is an Armenian "mob" that is more concerned with auto theft. I'm not a crime expert, but doing something like this, in a gas station on the PCH, seems like an experiment to see if it can be done and if so, where ELSE could it be done and in what industry?

 

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