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Middle-Class Flight From San Fernando Valley

Will taxpayers who are leaving “America's suburb” behind doom L.A.?

With new data suggesting that a net 50,000 to 100,000 people left Los Angeles County last fiscal year, the San Fernando Valley is emerging as the poster child for middle-class flight — even as L.A. politicians try to spin an almost opposite tale.

The Valley was once America’s suburb, the nation’s most firmly rooted bastion of families holding jobs sufficient to pay for homes, cars, leisure and college tuition. Its more than 1 million people poured such a wealth of taxes into downtown’s municipal treasury — subsidizing other areas — that Valley secession was seen as an attack on L.A.’s fiscal health.

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa recently claimed that people are moving here. But, in fact, an L.A. Weekly analysis based on U.S. Census data clearly shows that for the middle class, the opposite is true.

L.A. grew in 2007-2008 due to high birth rates among the poor and working class, mostly Latinos, and due to illegal immigration. But since 2001, on the key measure of an area’s ability to attract the middle class, 901,426 more citizens have fled the county for other states than arrived from other states, and last year, they continued that flight.

One of the starkest changes is the collapse of the Valley’s middle class. U.S. Census figures we analyzed show that in 1970, 60 percent of Valley families could afford an average house and college costs, far outpacing other urban areas recently evaluated for the same era by the Pew Research Center. Even before the recession hit in late 2007, the Valley had lost a huge swath of middle-class workers, with just 43 percent of families by 2006 earning $50,000 to $149,000 — the identical income group, corrected for inflation, that made up 60 percent in 1970.

Says California State University Northridge geography professor Eugene Turner, “It means exactly what we think it means: a growing population that’s not in that great middle class.”

Turner says the exodus accelerated in the 1990s as skilled, private-manufacturing jobs were replaced in L.A. with low-paying and increasingly unskilled work.

At the current rate, within 60 years, the Valley will have no discernible middle class. That’s not because the middle class is shrinking in the U.S. Instead, it’s relocating, fleeing in 2008 to the Carolinas, the Mountain West and Pacific Northwest, Texas and the South, and rejecting California, Ohio, New York, New Jersey, Michigan and Illinois. In March, more detailed Census data are expected to show that L.A. took much of California’s 2008 out-migration hit.

With City Hall focused heavily on building luxury condos and entertainment venues downtown, and dense multistory apartments on streets with bus or rail stops, Villaraigosa, City Council President Eric Garcetti and their economic advisers seem not to grasp the intense competition that’s under way among U.S. cities to keep or woo technology, biomedical and other private-sector employers who draw in well-paid workers.

Joel Kotkin, a fellow at Chapman University, says today’s L.A. political leaders dismiss the middle class, don’t nurture private entrepreneurship, and do little to retain private industries as diverse as high-tech and the processing of specialty Latino foods.

L.A. “exists for the rich and for the poor. Its policies have gotten more that way since 2000,” says Kotkin, now completing a study of New York’s fleeing middle class.

The Valley’s iconographic standing as America’s biggest and most racially diverse suburb makes it a testing ground for the Obama administration’s promise to support the middle class. Daniel Flaming, president of the downtown Economic Roundtable, calls L.A.’s middle class “very thin,” adding, “what we’ve seen mostly is public-relations gestures and lack of ownership, lack of any strategic notion of how to address [the flight].”

Villaraigosa has touted the middle class as “the strength of the town” but spends almost none of his time trying to lure, or create incentives for, private-sector employers, as L.A. Weekly discovered in reviewing 10 weeks of his personal schedule. In fact, city policies may be hastening middle-class flight.

In 1970, more than half the Valley’s neighborhoods, or 152 Census tracts, were healthy. Three of four Valley families living in those enclaves owned their homes, and middle-class families comprised 600,000 of the Valley’s 1 million residents. By 2000, such enclaves were anachronisms, containing just 97,691 of the Valley’s 1.5 million residents.

Thirty years ago, Reseda, cultural home of the “Karate Kid” and Tom Petty’s hit “Free Falling,” was 74 percent middle class. Almost everyone was a homeowner. But Reseda was targeted for a massive remaking, pushed by City Hall, that forcefully transformed it into a cluttered minicity of apartment complexes hampered by crime and gangs. The middle class bolted, by 2000 making up 41 percent of Reseda.

Reseda’s story was repeated, as planners wiped out Valley neighborhoods, approving a near-doubling in rental-housing construction from 1970 to 2000, from 130,000 to 240,000 apartment units. While every mayor from Tom Bradley to Villaraigosa has claimed that such remaking improves L.A.’s quality of life, each such mantra has backfired, worsening quality of life. Good jobs have fled — as have waves of white, black and Latino middle-class residents.

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  • David 11/15/2010 6:29:00 PM

    I used to live in SFV. My wife and I are both engineers and made good middle class incomes. But, paying over $800/month in state income taxes combined with the cost of rent and everything else incentivized us to leave. We moved to Texas. We have the same income without all of the costs. SFV is just too expensive if you have taxable income. So, what it attracts is those that do not. Unfortunately, those are mostly part of the underground economy and drag along with them all of the crime and social pathologies that plag SFV.

  • Sydney Cogen 05/10/2010 6:50:00 PM

    When I was just 3 years old my family "LEGALLY" moved from Canada to the San Fernando Valley. From Day 1 we have always respected the law and followed the rules. I stayed in school (obtaining a Master's Degree level education), have never been in trouble with the law, have paid my fair share of taxes, have never been on welfare, etc., etc. - My "reward" for all this was years of discrimination in the work environment for not being able to speak Spanish. Now in my 40's I've had enough and have had to move away from the only home I've ever known. Oh, and did I mention that not only was I the only Caucasian in my graduate school cluster (90% were Latino), but that I was the only one unable to find work due to being monolingual (I wont even get into the quality of work ...er uh lack of quality...that my classmates were turning in ... let's just say that the Latino's don't seem to take their schoolwork very seriously). So WHO exactly is being discriminated against these days??? Give me a break....I never thought I'd see the day when LEGAL IMMIGRANTS had less rights in the USA than those who break the law (i.e. are ILLEGAL)! - Now it's back to CANADA for me, where I wont be asked to speak anything other than English to obtain work..........

  • Spiffy 08/16/2009 7:13:00 PM

    I'm old enough to remember when Panorama City was nice. When I was a kid my mom used to take us shopping there because that's where the closest Montgomery Ward's was located. We used to go to the movies there too. When I moved back to the Valley about 6 years ago I was shocked to see that all that P.C. shopping district still sits undeveloped. I don't think that spot could support more shopping, but it could sure use another park with a swimming pool and after school activities for the kids. But the city won't build more parks because the only way they can imagine to male tax revenue is by building shopping districts or creating dense housing. We have a city council election coming up. I hope L.A. Weekly will preview all the candidates in enormous detail.

  • Pat 03/14/2009 9:59:00 AM

    So sad. And here I originally voted for James Hahn four years ago. The way everybody's talking here makes me think I should have fled to Timbuktu years ago without a backward glance. I suppose I shouldn't be at all surprised at the evil stalking City Hall in the shape of the City Coucil and the City planners. Since the middle class homeowners and merchants wield political power in their own right and are viewed by the local politicos as a threat to their thin-rich-bitch schemes, more and more it's starting to look like a war between the two sides to see who has the most money and the most power. And it's looking like the politicians are winning; by making the San Fernando Valley uninhabitable for middle-class people to live in, the City Council and City planners are literally ordering them to "get out and never come back", and the middle classes obey without a second thought. Mexican illegals taking over our jobs? Sure, but a lot of them take jobs that a great many whites are too prissy to accept anyway. When was the last time that you saw Anglo gardeners or landscapers, nannies, trash collectors, cooks, housekeepers, maintenance workers, medical office workers, store clerks, etc. It was allowed, folks, and not just by the politicians, so don't forget that. And, as Ms. Barrett's article points out, it's not just happening here in California. It's happening in New York, Ohio, New Jersey, Michigan, and Illinois, middle-classers fleeing those states for the friendlier Southern states, Mountain states and Pacific Northwest. And, yes, they'll have their piece of paradise for a while - until the same process starts happening in those places too. Then where will the middle class flee to next? Europe? Asia? Africa? Australia? The moon? Mars? I was wondering why anyone would want to destroy a city by driving out or destroying its middle class and replacing it with crime-filled poverty. But then I remember a line from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" which goes like this: "It's not about right and it's not about wrong. It's about power". And look how Los Angeles treats its entertainment industry. Strange how a TV character gets it right the first time.

  • Whitney 03/04/2009 4:53:00 AM

    LA is such a dump! I just don't understand this place. I moved here less than a year ago from Cleveland thinking this was the promise land - wrong. I can't wait to get out of here. I wish I had moved to San Diego instead. I tell everyone back home that what you see on TV about LA is not real. The people, city, environment, etc, is hideous here. Oh my god, as I write this, I'm getting sad. My friends who have come out to visit are mortified by what they see. The moment they leave the airport, they keep asking where all of the blonde bimbos are, and I say there are none, you have to go to SD to see the California you see on TV. While I hate this place now, I'm giving it a full year before I decide to leave. Let's just say that I've already gotten empty boxes from the ghetto grocery store down the street.

  • Gregory A. Butler 02/17/2009 2:04:00 AM

    Don't you actually mean "White Flight"? And if that's the case, then so what? If they're too damned racist to live around Latinos, they can go to hell! Or just keep moving north til they get to Idaho... But, wait, Idaho's got Mexicans too...

  • PeteR 02/10/2009 5:45:00 AM

    I moved away from the Valley in the late 90's and was hoping at the time to move back. But the change it's undergone just since then (only 10 years ago!) is enough so that I won't. More traffic, more crowding, more violence, worse schools, less charm, fewer Americans. There are still nice, livable sections but they're shrinking and too much for me to afford.

  • MaryJ 02/09/2009 11:35:00 PM

    Not just the San Fernando Valley, but all of California was destroyed by mass immigration of uneducated, needy, Third World immigrants who do not have the skills, the attitude or the culture to maintain a First World economy and living standards. I remember in the mid-90s when Art Torres crowed triumphantly about the "last gasp of white America in California." Well, white America moved away and took their tax base with them, at the same time massive numbers of poor Third Worlders moved in and started consuming taxes from a shrinking tax base. Bet you're not crowing now, are you Art?

  • Sam 02/07/2009 5:58:00 AM

    I lived in the Valley for years before moving to a safe part of New York City. Hard to believe but true. The article mentions the "middle class". They should have said "white middle class". The fact is that minorities ruined the Valley. The Mexicanization of the Valley as well as many parts of the US is nothing but ethnic cleansing. When will we see treat racial realist reporting. Anyone who is honest knows, its the 3rd world minorities who ruined the Valley.

  • Holland 02/07/2009 1:11:00 AM

    Never thought I'd say this, but the LA Weekly is delivering the best news reporting and analysis, by far, of any metro major paper covering LA and environs. Article is spot on. Keep delivering unspun facts, LA Weekly. You're all we have in print that can be relied on.

  • Robert Burlingham 02/04/2009 11:59:00 PM

    This story cries disaster and politicians fault at what is basically, the "un-gentrification" of a neighborhood. But LA Weekly will turn around and write another story (I am sure they have already published a few), about the middle-class taking over poor neighborhoods. Where's the balance?

  • JJ Popowich 02/04/2009 6:02:00 AM

    One more thing I wanted to say. I'm really disappointed in so many of the comments here that blame everything on the immigrants. That's really a very racial thing to do. The only blame for LA's problems are all of us. Sure, people come here looking for a better life and may not speak our language or have our customs. But that's the WHOLE POINT OF AMERICA. It is not their fault that we as a society didn't ensure that we provided them with education. It is not their fault that WE chose through ballot measures to accommodate their lack of English skills. It is not their fault that the good paying jobs left LA because of high taxes and fees. Those are all our faults. No don't blame them. Blame ourselves for not getting involved in our political structure in this country and become part of the solution. Now the question is what will you do? Will you drive them out and become a xenophobic protectionist society? Or will we face up to our challenges, start providing a decent education, start rebuilding our economy, and move forward. The latter is what this county is all about...anyone who can't see that is sadly lacking in their history education.

  • shande 02/04/2009 4:54:00 AM

    So so sad. The S.F.V. was the best place in the U.S. to grow up in the sixties. We just threw it away. I am third generation native S.F.V. and my kids now grown would have been fourth had we not blown out in the early eighties (My parents moved their business out of the state in the early seventies (they could not stand it anymore)Both of my parents families were very large and out of over 100 all are gone. In the late seventies my native S.F.V. mexican friends (who along with their families left long ago) told me the illegals have a saying in spanish "we will take california house by house" Wow! who knew? In my opinion the worst mistake we made and continue to make is not making people assimilate. The only thing that happens by protecting peoples culture is make huge groups of people who hate each other. I never knew until I looked back at my grade school pictures that many of my friends were mexican. We were all the same, spoke the same, lived the same and had the same values. The valley had more potential than anywhere else. It was so beautiful. The mountains were incredible. The weather was amazing, sometimes hot (but dry) and the nights with cool breezes smelling of orange blossoms. You could walk anywhere at night by yourself and ride your horse from one end to the other. My grandparents door never even had a place for a lock. Never did I ever again have fruit that tasted like our backyard fruit. Not so anymore... Thanks (Villaraigosa and Bradley ) our "so called" leaders YOU let it die. It should have NEVER been governed from L.A.

  • JJ Popowich 02/04/2009 4:09:00 AM

    I was pleased to see an article on a subject I talk to friends and colleagues alike on a daily basis: the middle class is not just fleeing�its dying. There is no doubt that increasingly the cost of living in LA is prohibitive to anyone who considers themselves on a middle income. Even with the housing crisis who can afford a $300,000 mortgage on $9 to $10 an hour. There are no more manufacturing jobs (typically higher paying) in the Valley. The movie industry (again higher paying jobs) has been fleeing to Canada for years. What we are left with is low paying consumer jobs�and now with the economic collapse those are going way too. The City Council and the Mayor need to wake up and start making this a business friendly city�lower taxes and fees across the board for business and citizens�because a business can�t survive if its employees cant� survive. But I disagree with one point. I don�t think the middle class is just fleeing the Valley. I think the American Middle Class is dying throughout our Country and no one is paying attention. Some blame Wall St for our current problems. Certainly they are one aspect of the problem. The true problem in our country is that for too long the cost of living has increased and wages have not. It just got to the point where in order to have any part of the American dream you had to go into debt to get it. Why does a TV cost $300 plus? Come on its made in China for dollars not hundreds of dollars. Why do you pay $3.00 a pill in Canada for medicine that would cost you $30.00 a pill in America? Same medicine. You see that�s the problem. The cost of living in America has surpassed the increase in wages. There are tons of reasons for this from greed to bad management, to bad politics to unions and so on. We ALL share in the cause of the problem�not one of us is blameless. So we can all sit here and point our fingers at whatever segment of society we don�t like and blame them, but that won�t fix the problem. We need a multi-pronged approach: 1) Support President Obama�s efforts to get people back to work through infrastructure and energy projects. Without people working, our problems only get worse. 2) Educate people on smart finance management�how to save, how to budget. 3) Let the marketplace sort itself out. Businesses will fail. But those that survive will be the ones who are managed well and provide products and services that are reasonably priced. Raising wages is not an option, BUT neither is cutting them or cutting benefits either�it takes income for businesses to raise wages and it takes income to citizens to spend at businesses. The cost of living has to come down. Real estate prices have to be reasonable. A new car can�t cost $50,000, a TV can�t cost $300 � these are prices we simply can�t support any more. But I�m not doom and gloom. I have faith in the market economy. It will be rough. But we�ve been through this before (the Great Depression is closer to today than you may think) and we�ll get through this.

  • Frank Rizzo 02/04/2009 3:40:00 AM

    It kills me as a life long SFV resident. I have the fondest memories, but they are all gone. I'm the only one left. All my friends moved to Valencia years ago - or out of state all together - and I never saw it coming. I detest our Mayor and the entire city council for letting the Valley slip into decay while accepting the graft - in one way or another - from the developers. I go out of my way to purchase items online even if they are more expensive just to avoid giving LA the sales tax revenue. I paid 25 cents to park on Ventura Blvd. in Woodland Hills for 15 minutes? Nope, free parking in the back. I can't stop thinking how great we could have been had the succession been a success. I'm voting like everyone else has - with my feet.

  • shande 02/03/2009 11:51:00 PM

    So so sad. The S.F.V. was the best place in the U.S. to grow up in the sixties. We just threw it away. I am third generation native S.F.V. and my kids now grown would have been fourth had we not blown out in the early eighties (My parents moved their business out of the state in the early seventies (they could not stand it anymore)Both of my parents families were very large and out of over 100 all are gone. In the late seventies my native S.F.V. mexican friends (who along with their families left long ago) told me the illegals have a saying in spanish "we will take california house by house" Wow! who knew? In my opinion the worst mistake we made and continue to make is not making people assimilate. The only thing that happens by protecting peoples culture is make huge groups of people who hate each other. I never knew until I looked back at my grade school pictures that many of my friends were mexican. We were all the same, spoke the same, lived the same and had the same values. The valley had more potential than anywhere else. It was so beautiful. The mountains were incredible. The weather was amazing, sometimes hot (but dry) and the nights with cool breezes smelling of orange blossoms. You could walk anywhere at night by yourself and ride your horse from one end to the other. My grandparents door never even had a place for a lock. Never did I ever again have fruit that tasted like our backyard fruit. Not so anymore... Thanks (Villaraigosa and Bradley ) our "so called" leaders YOU let it die. It should have NEVER been governed from L.A.

  • A Reader 02/03/2009 9:16:00 PM

    The white American middle class is being displaced by the invading hordes from Mexico and other Third World countries. This is one of the main reasons of the current budget fiasco in CA. Here is a link to a commentary that argues that race has very little, in anything, to do with this displacement. http://geocities.com/readerswrite/commentaries/Differences_between_races.htm

  • angelina 02/03/2009 3:46:00 PM

    Ah... the fruits of diveristy. HAD ENOUGH YET?!?!?!

  • angelina 02/03/2009 3:44:00 PM

    Had to correct that error in my last post: Ah... the fruits of diversity. HAD ENOUGH YET?!?!?!

  • Ben 02/03/2009 6:33:00 AM

    The downsides of turning a blind eye to illegal immigration. The problem will only get worse.

  • Tom Pavlock 02/02/2009 10:33:00 PM

    The ball is in your court Mayor. I have a business here that is almost impossible to make money at, mainly because of rules that are ludicrous to say the least. CHANGE is needed, and they can't just be words. Overdevelopment is killing the Valley, and If I have to close, I will sell and move away from here.

  • Herb 02/02/2009 5:59:00 PM

    These comments are so spot on I have nothing to add, especially the last two. American generosity caused us to import poverty. Only another 1924 (an immigration moratorium of all mass immigration lasting decades) will let us assimilate those already here. Even that may not reverse the decline. On a related note: most people moved here from New York and Chicago or similar spots and don't want those places replicated here. They actually like that LA is "a collection of suburbs in search of a city," and don't want to live in a tiny apartment above a subway station.

  • Marco 02/01/2009 11:46:00 AM

    When are we going to stop ignoring the 'elephant in the living room' of LA: Too much immigration of unskilled, poverty-prone people from the third world (esp Mexico) over the last 20 yrs -- most of it illegal. And too many babies born to those people. Instead we hear a lot of BS from MALDEF & other apologists about how these unskilled workers contribute so much to the tax base & civilization as we know it would collapse if we dared to deport illegal immigrants. Yet, one socioeconomic datum after another re the immigration bubble contradicts those apologists. All the data -- about population growth, fertility, overcrowding, middle-class-flight, poverty levels, impact on services & quality-of-life, educational achievement, gang activity, etc. -- adds up to a picture of LA that most Angelinos know intuitively: LA as a suburb of the Third World. "Give me your tired & your poor" only works when the huddled masses have a fast track to assimilation & productive citizenship. That fast track -- consisting of well-paid manufacturing jobs & a highly-effective public education system -- has been been deteriorating since the '70s. We no longer have the economic or social capacity to "digest" the huge influx of poor, unskilled immigrants; instead, those people are permanently destroying the quality of life in LA. The vast number of illegal immigrants settle into monocultural neighborhoods, consume media in their native language, & send their disposable income back home. They aren't homeowners, they're not involved in local civics, they don't maintain their neighborhoods (hence the litter-strewn streets of LA), they're uninsured & they rely on public services more than any other demographic. The LA school system's #1 job is providing a basic education for the children of poor third-world immigrants -- & in spite of all the tax money spent, it's arguable whether the kids are even learning English well enough to be employable outside their barrio, let alone go to college. The big question is: When do we acknowledge the 'elephant in the living room' & get serious about doing what it takes to stop illegal immigration, deport illegal immigrants & penalize those who profit from labor that's "cheap" only because its true cost (absorbed by society) is ignored.

  • Marco 02/01/2009 11:41:00 AM

    When are we going to stop ignoring the 'elephant in the living room' of LA: Too much immigration of unskilled, poverty-prone people from the third world (esp Mexico) over the last 20 yrs -- most of it illegal. And too many babies born to those people. Instead we hear a lot of BS from MALDEF & other apologists about how these unskilled workers contribute so much to the tax base & civilization as we know it would collapse if we dared to deport illegal immigrants. Yet, one socioeconomic datum after another re the immigration bubble contradicts those apologists. All the data -- about population growth, fertility, overcrowding, middle-class-flight, poverty levels, impact on services & quality-of-life, educational achievement, gang activity, etc. -- adds up to a picture of LA that most Angelinos know intuitively: LA as a suburb of the Third World. "Give me your tired & your poor" only works when the huddled masses have a fast track to assimilation & productive citizenship. That fast track -- consisting of well-paid manufacturing jobs & a highly-effective public education system -- has been been deteriorating since the '70s. We no longer have the economic or social capacity to "digest" the huge influx of poor, unskilled immigrants; instead, those people are permanently destroying the quality of life in LA. The vast number of illegal immigrants settle into monocultural neighborhoods, consume media in their native language, & send their disposable income back home. They aren't homeowners, they're not involved in local civics, they don't maintain their neighborhoods (hence the litter-strewn streets of LA), they're uninsured & they rely on public services more than any other demographic. The LA school system's #1 job is providing a basic education for the children of poor third-world immigrants -- & in spite of all the tax money spent, it's arguable whether the kids are even learning English well enough to be employable outside their barrio, let alone go to college. The big question is: When do we acknowledge the 'elephant in the living room' & get serious about doing what it takes to stop illegal immigration, deport illegal immigrants & penalize those who profit from labor that's "cheap" only because its true cost (absorbed by society) is ignored.

  • Aaron 01/31/2009 9:23:00 AM

    Has anyone taken a look around them? The San Fernando Valley has to be the most overpriced, overrated sh!thole on the Earth. $800.00 per month to rent run-down studio apartments that don't even have real kitchens. Hot as f.ck 9 months out of the year, traffic on virtually EVERY street, hardly a walkable neighborhood to be found. I hate the Valley and most of LA is just as overpriced and overrated. That's my opinion.

  • la_stillhere 01/31/2009 5:38:00 AM

    Miss Barrett tries to re-write history much as the conservatives who got us in this mess are trying to do. She also puts out the thinly veiled racism as the new LA Weekly readers and Chamber of Commerce types reflect. Here's hoping Villaraigosa and the rest find their progressive roots and embrace Obama's policies. As Obama said today, it's not just about some "ideal" middle class or the "right" people it's about helping the working class and BUILDING the middle class everywhere and for everyone willing to work for it. No, we're not going back to the 50's; it could be better!

  • John Apocalypse 01/31/2009 4:41:00 AM

    Oh my God!!! The city of Los Angeles is going to ruin!!! Run, run!! It's another so-far-slanted-to-the-I-hate-those-in-power LA Weekly article!! The middle class is dying!! It's like Bladerunner for real!!! Run, run! Doom is here!!

  • Phil Jennerjahn 01/31/2009 4:11:00 AM

    This is what happens when you have liberals in power. They punish successful businesses and people and drive them away. They reward people who do not work or contribute anything to society. In 20 more years, LA will be as bad as Detroit. No jobs, no tax base, and no hope. Vote for a Conservative on March 3 2009 http://www.philjennerjahn.com/

  • Rigoberto 01/30/2009 10:59:00 PM

    Sure jobs left in the 90's, and a certain amount of people had to leave to follow them to other states. But anyone with half a brain and one honest bone in their body knows that the decline ocurring in the valley is largely due to low class illegal immigrants. They lack the values that the citizens of the San Fernando Valley had before this invasion. Really, who would put their kid in a LAUSD school where most kids don't speak english and high school graduation rates are less than 50%. It's a shame that the Valley was not able to secede from hell-A. The solutions are drastic and probably unnatainable givien the liberal bias of the majority of the people who live in L.A. County. Break up LAUSD. No illegal aliens in our schools. Embrace school vouchers. Let the Valley secede. Stop electing charasmatic leaders like the L.A. mayor because it makes you feel good to vote for a minority. Get over your white guilt and admit that the state is going down the tubes because of correctness and "social justice".

  • abel 01/30/2009 6:26:00 PM

    Sam, not everyone who works for the school district is a teacher, so what's ironic about the comment. What's important is that the reduction in quality of life is a huge problem across california, and many who live in the valley will continue to realize that they are not immune fram the ills of LA - crime, mega low-income apt complexes, joblessness, too many illegal immigrants, gangs, trash, etc. No one cared when politicians arrogantly neglected LA, but we are all supposed to be shocked that this is being allowed to happen in the valley. Well, welcome to Los Angeles. I want to ran away too.

  • Sam 01/30/2009 6:56:00 AM

    I'm sorry to say that there is "no more Valley". It was removed years ago, for the very reasons stated. I am a life-long resident who wants to leave but I am just not sure where to go. We gave the Valley away...I'm just not sure why. Could it have been all the touchy-feely politicians (and their followers?). I find it ironic that one of these comments (with incorrect grammar and spelling) comes from an individual working with the school system?????

  • BEVERLY 01/29/2009 8:38:00 PM

    LOVED THE ARTICLE AND RESENT THE WAY VILLARAIGOSA AND JAN PERRY HAS COMPLETED NEGELECTED SOUTH LA, - THE CITY OF TRASH, UNHEALTHY SIDEWAKE VENDING AND THE CLUTTER OF ILLEGALLY CONVERTED HOMES AND GARAGES USED TO HOUSE ALL THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS OF SOUTH LA. IMMIGRANTS HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS HOUSE DEPT AND JAN PERRY'S OFFICE DOES NOT RESPOND TO CONCERNS. NOW THERE ARE BIG RATS RUNNING IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. THESE POLITICIANS ARE A DISGRAGE AND IF IT WEREN'T FOR MY JOB WITH LAUSD I WOULD LEAVE TOO.

  • cyndi 01/29/2009 10:59:00 AM

    I myself have noticed that very time developers come into a neighborhood to build apartments and condos, the area soon becomes degraded, congested, and no longer suitable for the once pleasant community. It has happened to pockets of North Hollywood (most of it actually), Lake View Terrace, Northridge, and many other Valley areas. The only choice for people who bought or rent homes in those places is to get out ... and the congestion and cost of housing in L.A. is not an option for those who went to the Valley to escape congestion and high costs of homes. Let's get rid of the developers going into the Valley communities and the middle class will be fine.

 

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