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Dirty Laundry Over Prop. 8

Blame-game erupts over Latino and black support for the gay marriage ban

As president of The Wall Las Memorias Project, Richard Zaldivar is a “local hero” in East Los Angeles. In 2005, the grass-roots organizer received that honor from KCET for bringing the first publicly funded AIDS monument in the nation to the Eastside’s Lincoln Park. During the 12-year effort, he earned the support of church groups, neighborhood councils, mothers groups and unions. Zaldivar, a gay man, was certain the “No on 8” campaign would put him to work and tap into his vast network of gay and straight Latinos.

That never happened. Instead, on his own he volunteered at a phone bank, calling strangers to defeat Proposition 8.

“I drove by the [Our Lady of the Angeles] cathedral on Sunday,” Zaldivar says, “and I saw young people protesting. But they need to hold the gay and lesbian leadership accountable as much as the Mormon Church and the Catholic Church.”

Jeffrey King, a gay man prominent in the African-American community, says the campaign ignored advice from black gay and lesbian activists about counteracting cultural opposition to gay marriage.

“We told them what should be done,” says King, executive director of In The Meantime Men’s Group, a South Los Angeles outreach organization for gay black men, “we told them what they shouldn’t do — and they did what they wanted to do.”

“This clearly is not the time to call black folks out and say we were to blame,” King says. “There was not enough outreach. Period.”

With one exit poll showing 70 percent of blacks and 53 percent of Latinos supporting the ban, and with a Loyola Marymount exit poll showing a split among blacks and Latinos — with many refusing to answer at all — blacks and Latinos are being blamed for helping put Prop. 8 over the top. Only the Mormon Church has been slammed harder, by loud and passionate crowds.

Many say the ban could have been stopped if No on 8, with a chest of $38 million, had developed a strategy to address the cultural divide. Among other problems, it appears that No on 8 hired relatively unknown field organizers in Los Angeles County, where multimillion-dollar ballot measure fights are handled by crack field operatives with statewide experience.

Moof Mayeda, senior field organizer in L.A. County, says they focused almost entirely on phone calls, but she didn't know which racial groups they were calling. Steve Smith, a consultant, chose which voters to call, she says.

Los Angeles Gay & Lesbian Center CEO Lorri Jean, a leader of No on 8, was out of town and could not be reached for comment on why liberal Los Angeles County sided with “Yes on 8.” Inside the city limits, officials reported majorities for the ban in heavily Latino and/or black City Council Districts 1, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 15 represented, respectively, by Ed Reyes, Tony Cardenas, Richard Alarcon, Bernard Parks, Jan Perry and Janice Hahn. In Compton, one newspaper analysis showed 65 percent of Compton voters backed the ban.

“There’s no evidence of any attempt to truly reach out to black and Latino voters,” says Miki Jackson, a white lesbian and gay-rights activist.

Zaldivar adds, “They [the No on 8 campaign] have no clue about grass-roots mobilization.”

Long before Election Day, Rick Jacobs, executive director of the Courage Campaign — a kind of MoveOn.org outfit for California politics — grew concerned. Jacobs, a gay white man, wanted to see a strong outreach effort in the black and Latino communities. His African-American contacts, though, had bad news for him. “The No on 8 campaign was doing nothing,” Jacobs says.

He asked campaign insiders to explain their plans. “I was told they were blanketing [black and Latino] neighborhoods with door [knob] hangers.” Such passive electioneering, “shows a colossal lack of understanding for what is needed to win an election,” according to Jacobs.

Richard Zaldivar and Jeffrey King, in fact, didn’t see a single door hanger in South Los Angeles or East Los Angeles. Geoff Kors, a member of the No on 8 executive committee, says door hangers were used in the Bay Area, but he wasn’t sure about Los Angeles County.

Still, Jacobs says, “You cannot expect to win when the first and only contact is a flat piece of paper.”

The No on 8 campaign made several other key errors in wooing blacks and Latinos. It never held a “big table” meeting, where groups meet to discuss their skills and form a plan of action. Jacobs owns an e-mail list of more than 100,000 people, but no one ever asked him to use his online campaigning skills. When Jacobs realized no bloggers were working for the campaign, he and his small staff blogged every day.

In East L.A., Zaldivar, who once worked as a Los Angeles City Council aide, asked No on 8 staffers why no obvious campaign effort was under way in Latino areas; he was told the Latino vote “wasn’t a priority.”

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  • Bill 12/19/2008 1:35:00 AM

    Laurie Ochoa and the LA Weekly editorial staff should be ashamed of themselves for not covering Prop 8 AT ALL until after the election. Thanks for nothing.

  • Cal Godot 11/19/2008 12:59:00 AM

    Wow. White gay people are just as bigoted and prejudiced as white straight people. Imagine that!

  • Jack 11/16/2008 8:57:00 PM

    Zaldivar is wrong when he states that the No on Prop 8 folks are as responsible for the election outcome as the Catholic and Mormon Church. Let's get this "straight" once and for all: the mainline religions (and Mormons qualify marginally) are guilty of practicing the most shameful kind of discrimination against, and demonization of gay men and lesbians, and they've been getting away with this for years. It's time to expose these churches as the hate-filled institutions they are and to marginalize their influence on civil and public affairs and interests. Demanding they lose their tax-exempt status will send the right message, and will help to cripple their poisonous and malicious influence.

  • Jennifer 11/15/2008 2:11:00 AM

    The reason liberal white people are more open to gay marriage is due to the years long media campaign aimed at them. Many--if not most-- TV shows that feature upper middle class white people, also include white gay characters. One example is �Brothers and Sisters� on ABC. That show features a married gay lawyer who quit his law firm after they want him to stay in the closet while dealing with clients. He then gets a job working for his Republican brother -in -law, a Unired States Senator who happens to have a gay brother himself. Absent from TV are working class white gays, minority gays, and religious gays. The demographic white gays in the media have targeted for the last few years is the demographic they won on election night. That should not be a surprise. There is an attitude that if you just convince elite white people of something that everybody else will eventually follow. Well, it�s not true. Segregated thinking doesn't work. You have to engage everybody if you want your rights to be supported and protected by everybody.

  • Javier 11/15/2008 12:09:00 AM

    An excellent article. However, I'd like to know why it ran (with another lengthy article about the aftermath of the vote to pass Prop 8), two weeks prior to your endorsement issue or even not far earlier?. The Sunday LA Times wrote an editorial the Sunday before the election (when the circulation is highest) soley about Prop 8 - calling it unfair and wrong; pointing out the deceptions about teachers and schools. They also covered the advertising about Prop 8 and the money issue throughour the fall and summer. The LA Weekly, on the other hand, didn't write much of anything about Prop 8 at all. It's pre-election issue had, IIRC, about 4 articles about Obama, a few short columns on other props, and the absolutely only ONE Prop 8 mention, an in-passing, almost throwaway line by Marc Cooper in one of his typical rants of a far lenghthier column of Cooper's own personal endorsements. As far as what the article says, why didn't the Weekly cover this in September? In Octorber? In August? Why wasn't it news THEN? It wasn't happening then? That's not what the reporter wrote. I don't disagree with most of what the reporter wrote (except for his sentence where he writes that it was "liberal LA county" that "sided" with Prop 8 -- IT WASN'T: a simple analysis of the demographic information available from the County Voter Registrar (and on the LA Times) shows clearly that the "liberal" westside, West Hollywood and Hollywood parts of LA voted AGAINST prop 8. On the other hand, South and Central LA County gave the proposition its slim margin of victory in LA County. I have my own problems with the way the NO on 8 campaign was run. I do think better outreach could have brought a different outcome. I think they waited too late on some of their campaign ads - like the one narrated by Samuel L. Jackson. Personally, I think the decision not to use the married coupls or make it about gay rights at first was also a mistake. Yes, as always, I think the leadership of the NO on 8 campaign needs to step up and admit to making some mistakes. But there's plenty of blame to go around, including, for example, the LA Weekly and some of the folks quoted in this piece. If they felt the wrong things were going on, they could and should have spoken out. There was nothing even in the gay press in San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego or Sacramento (or elsewhere country wide). They didn't. They waited until the election was over. That doesn't help anyone or any cause.

  • santo 11/14/2008 11:25:00 PM

    It truly is amazing to see how ignorant the majority of no-on-8 people were and continue to be as to why so many people voted for it. To continue to claim that all for the proposition have hate is to ignore the real issue involved. The issue was and is about choice. The yes on 8 faction were able to show that it is about what can be taight and who has the right to teach our children. Even the ads stating that this was not the case were able to be disproved by facts. A majority of the voters don't care if gays marry, but they were told again and again that your opinion and votes dont matter by recent court cases.

  • Ara Kassabian 11/14/2008 8:24:00 PM

    I remember reading a series of articles in the LA Times debating gay marriage (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup-jul30-aug6,0,7900163.storygallery). Lorri Jean represented the GLBT side. Ron Prentice, of the Family Council, represented the other side. Reading the back-and-forth, I remember thinking to myself: "Boy, Lorri sure does not know how to speak the language of faith. How does she expect to convince all those church goers with arguments like that?". I think this is what happened again this summer. The "Yes on 8" campaign knew just how to touch voters' nerves, by talking about children. The "No on 8" campaign, on the other hand, kept talking about fairness but it was never able to connect the dots for voters, to show them why GLBT people felt so strongly about this issue and why marriage was the ONLY answer to the inequality. And, finally, the "No on 8" campaign made the mistake of completely writing off what they considered conservative groups, like Blacks, Latinos, Catholics, and Armenians. As an Armenian, I know that my community is very conservative. But I also know many Armenians who are open minded and would have listened, had they been approached.

  • Jack 11/14/2008 7:02:00 PM

    The failed No on Prop 8 Campaign exposed long-term elitism problems in the gay community that run in BOTH directions. Years ago, as a participant in Human Rights Campaign activities in Los Angeles, I tried to reach out to black and latin leaders to help in HRC activities. They turned up their noses and refused to participate. Some said HRC was a bunch of rich white fags who themselves were clueless bigots when it came to dealing with racial issues. Many cited the not so long ago policy at some WEHO nightclubs to require multiple forms of picture ID for blacks and latins to gain entry. Those long ago bitter memories remain. But also, the wealthy white entertainment industry types are clueless and elite in their failure to VALUE community grassroots connections. They think gay activist is how much money you raised -- not who you brought into the movement. So the uneasy relationship and general lack of coordination between the overwhelmingly white and wealthy No on Prop 8 campaign and local activists in the black and latin communities hardly comes as a surprise. The hard question is whether the problem is elistism on the part of leaders of the No on Prop 8, OR elistism on the part of some black and latin gay community leaders WHO THEMSELVES only will work with white leaders ON THEIR OWN TERMS. Perhaps it is both. This campaign was a time for the gay community to WORK TOGETHER and it appears there were problems, as there have always been problems, in getting black, latin, and white gay leaders to sit down, set aside their massive egos, and really work together. Lorri Jean of the Gay and Lesbian Center was calling for more money for television ads when she should have been calling for more unity. This is the perennial problem with Human Rights Campaign leaders of which Lorri Jean is of thier ilk, most of whom in LA are from the entertainment industry. They "problem solve" by simply saying they need more money. Then they raise some more money, throw it at a problem, and that usually works. Then they go back to giving each other awards for their "tireless efforts" in the gay community and getting another face peel. Black and latin activists are true grass roots in their communities. They bristle at the financial disparities and they are often petty when they are not brought in early. It is clear from the county by county vote returns that Prop 8 was LOST in Los Angeles County. It was not lost because of a lack of resources. It was lost because of the long-term inability of the gay community to really embrace its own diversity and really work together in Los Angeles. Whether or not a better run campaign could have overcome the lies and deception of the Yes Campaign is hard to tell. But the failures of the gay community to overcome long term divisions certainly played a factor in the outcome.

  • Cec 11/14/2008 8:37:00 AM

    Add to all the weenie ad campaign -- imagine Diane Feinstein gently intoning that no matter how one feels about blacks and mexicans, one should allow them to ride the bus too, especially since they promise not to take any nearby seats. She sort of did say that, by taking such a gutless stance

  • Cheryl 11/14/2008 6:08:00 AM

    This is awful. The No on 8 campapign rendered large segements of the California population invisible and not worthy of inclusion, and that attitude cost all gays their rights.

  • Bill 11/13/2008 9:06:00 PM

    The No on 8 campaign failed in many areas to close the deal, not fully understanding how much the opposition would do to lie and distort information about marriage equality. Yes on 8 successfully misdirected the campaign as a threat to children and families. Morally bankrupt, the Catholic Church joined with the Mormon Cult religion (with its massive inferiority complex) to bankroll the campaign and seize the initiative, shaping opinion, to which No on 8 responded too late and too little. I am personally ashamed of my alma mater, Pepperdine University, for its complicity and in allowing its name to be associated with the Yes on 8 campaign. Considering the level of hatred that is directed toward gays in church homilies in Sunday services, why should anyone be surprised at how easily Blacks and Latinos dismissed the parallels between their own struggles with equality and those of lesbians and gay men? Blacks in particular have been taught that the gay "lifestyle" is a "choice", and that it does not deserve protections of any kind. They resent any comparison to their own struggle, and refuse to even acknowledge the growing number of Black men who participate in the gay community on the "down low".

  • Keith Malone 11/13/2008 8:58:00 PM

    I think an equal share of the blame can be laid all around. I believe a lot of the community became complacent and we didn't reach out to family and friends - and those at the edge of our personal and professional networks. As simplistic and hokey as it sounds, we forgot the one strategy and tactic that has served our community well: coming out. Not simply the declarative and stereotypical pronouncement of "I am gay," but a multi-dimensional approach that allows us to be who we are with friends and strangers and engaging them and talking with them about who we are and why gay marriage matters. Only then will the last-minute advertising and political campaigning have an impact. Food for thought - just one gay guy's thoughts.

 

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