I think that anything he says . . .
Of course. Yes, I know. He’s a global embarrassment. Unfortunately, he’s turned America into the criminal nation in the eyes of the people in the Middle East — and in England.
And I think, in our guts, we know. America knows.
But it isn’t enough, because he is still there. He’s still there; he’s still functioning, he’s still beaming all over the place, and he’s still talking about caring about the elderly and earning a round of applause, and it’s a global joke, it really is. So, who would you like to see in the White House?
I actually would like to see Hillary Clinton.
Because?
Because, well, I’d like to see a woman, but the best president that I have lived under was Bill Clinton, even though he wasn’t perfect by any means.
But haven’t we had enough of the Clintons?
She might be better than him.
Well, that’s very likely, but nonetheless, haven’t we had enough of the name?
Okay. Well, Barack Obama?
Outstanding.
I don’t know enough about him.
Outstanding.
He is really good.
Mesmerizing, yes.
He could be president, and she could be vice president.
Well. [Laughs.] That suits me. Of course, it would be great to see a female president, but not just anybody. I mean, I think that Hillary has had her shot. She’s been around, she said a lot of silly things, and we don’t really want a woman for the sake of any old woman.
I know, like Condoleezza Rice.
Well, it would never happen. Because she has the sag of cruelty about her face, her eyes, her mouth. The jowl of cruelty. She has a Nazi face. But in England, of course, we had Margaret Thatcher as prime minister, and she was diabolical. So, it isn’t necessarily the case as long as the candidate’s female. But I think he [Obama] is mesmerizing, absolutely mesmerizing.
Well, that’s what I’ve heard; I haven’t seen him speak yet.
Oh, mesmerizing. I think he would really change the world.
I think, at this stage, any alternative to Bush, because he’s the embodiment of the old world. You should travel to the Middle East and see what people think about him. They’d rather have Saddam Hussein any day than George W. Bush . . . The truth about George Bush now is that nobody in America or across the globe has any reason, whatsoever, to believe anything he says.
Thank you so much for this interview. Everyone wants to read a Morrissey interview. It’s not something that happens every day, you know.
Well, that’s nice. I don’t want to be a part of the everyday.
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