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L.A. WEEKLY: To be blunt, does
it make you sad spending
so much time with Elliott
Smith’s music?
O’RILEY: Yeah, it does. I never met him. I’ve listened to 60 live concerts, and the big difference between him and Radiohead [is that] you can listen to five live versions of “Paranoid Android,” and none of them are much better or worse than the others. But as emotionally available as Elliott Smith was, he gives every performance a different flavor. As a performing artist he’s still incredibly alive — you’re hearing the permutations, and it’s as if he never left. And on the last record (From a Basement on the Hill), he doesn’t sound like a dying man.
Are you focusing on any
particular era or album?
I think I’ve done a pretty wide cross-section — more than my share of the B-sides
that a lot of fans won’t know about. The early version of “Pretty (Ugly Before)”
. . . one of the first songs I did was “Roman Candle,” and “Not Half Right” was
something he played solo early on? but was a Heatmeiser song.
I take it there’s an
extra challenge in your
task — attending to the
difference between his studio
and live recordings.
His live performances are sort of a straining at the boundaries of possibility
— he was a great guitar player, but oftentimes trying to get more ideas across
on guitar than [he really could accomplish live]. In the studio he’s layering
tracks and beefing it up in very sophisticated ways, layer upon layer — it’s musically
draining [for me to re-create], and we’re not even talking about the emotionally
draining content of his lyrics, and trying to put them across. Some songs are
going to be a lot harder to do — the chorale feeling of the a cappella “I Didn’t
Understand” kind of wrote itself — that one I finished in a day. “Coast to Coast”
is going to take me a long time to do. “Speed Trials” was the first song I heard,
and I’ve played it through a couple times and hated it and come into something
else.
After spending so much time with
his music, what would
you say to him as
a musician if you could?
It’s gonna be okay is what I’d try to tell him, but he wouldn’t listen. I wouldn’t
know where to begin.
What other music are you
into right now?
Propellerheads’ Decksandrumsandrockandroll, Blonde Redhead’s Misery
Is a Butterfly, The Arcade Fire, Guided By Voices’ Human
Amusements at an Hourly Rate. GBV fans
will berate me for liking a greatest-hits, but everybody else will thank me. I’ve
got a 30-gig iPod with a good 60 Elliott concerts, about 30 Radiohead gigs, all
the Beatles’ “Kinfauns” recordings — demo-quality homemade tracks of all the White
Album stuff — and what’s great is hearing them as guys instead of icons.
What was the first record you
bought with your own money?
Beethoven’s Symphonies Number One and Nine, with Arturo Toscanini conducting the
NBC Symphony Orchestra. I was in third grade. My sister bought me the Beatles.
There’s probably more of a connection there than I’m aware of — although probably
not that much. In fact, the Beatles were better melodists than Beethoven was.
And they were much more folk-based, and Beethoven’s folk-based music sucked.
Any guilty pleasures?
I did time with an Emerson, Lake & Palmer phase — please! I think Keith Emerson
contributed nothing to the ongoing evolution of music.
Any secret influences in
your music?
Probably. They’re hidden. Elliott would brag about his reverence for the Stones,
yet his only directly Stones-influenced song is “How To Take a Fall.” For me,
it’s Prokoviev’s Second Piano Concerto — everything I ever wanted to do on piano
is in that piece, all my pianistic bag of tricks. I find that more and more, because
I’ve had my fingers around it for so long, those shapes fall naturally to my hands.
It’s a fertility thing — what will work, what will give me the best sense of power
at this point in a piece. Prokofiev really knew how to make the piano ring. There
are some pretty nice solutions I’ve come up with [playing Radiohead] that have
a lot to do with that piece.