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Happy hours with Royce and Marilyn

Photo by Kevin AckermanDUSK, LOS ANGELES. A THOUSAND CARS ARE JOINING THE rush-hour conga lines of traffic fleeing downtown's office center. Soon the streets will be deserted of men with briefcases, and the sky emptied of corporate helicopters -- to be replaced by the occasional urban hawk searching, in the darkening curfew, for a careless pigeon. Inside a neighborhood bar that is neither dive nor tourist lounge, a few old-timers fortified with drinks and paper plates of happy-hour food watch a movie wind down on television. Except for the TV and a popcorn maker it's pretty quiet here, and pretty blue-collar, too, which is why the two women dressed like grandmotherly Holly Golightlys, their wide-brimmed hats smartly raked and enormous rings cincturing manicured fingers, stick out like a pair of Christmas trees planted on a 50-yard line.

Royce Reed and Marilyn Hoggatt, you see, are emissaries from a more refined time, women who do not end their sentences with prepositions, nor with the declarative question mark that is the California style. They are ladies who appreciate the snug fit of custom-made gloves, who know the difference between a cocktail ring and a solitaire -- and wince whenever their club sandwiches arrive with crusts untrimmed.

Their anachronistic mannerisms and codes of dress are part of an unfaltering faith in style, a faith that has been rewarded with a kind of unified field theory of life. Yet even a consoling world-view cannot shield an elderly woman from the rough realities of living downtown on a fixed income. For that, Royce and Marilyn must rely on one another, and a friendship that is a constant adjustment of needs and wants that are seldom completely in sync.

"I'm used to elegance, elegance," Royce says of downtown. "This is not my home, this is hell on earth! The noise of the helicopters and sirens day and night -- oh, my gawd, you'd lose your mind!" There's more than a trace of Norma Desmond in the voice and the eyeliner, and listening to her makes an interviewer feel more than a little like Joe Gillis. "I'm a clothes person, a fashion person," Royce will tell you as she sips a sauvignon blanc. "I was raised by rich, rich, elegant people who bought only the finest, everything made to order. You cannot handle anything else, as a woman -- it is your life."

"I've always liked clothes," Marilyn concurs. "My mother made mine -- as an infant, child and teenager. Even when I went to college, she made complete sets for me."

When Marilyn graduated from high school in 1941, a teenage girl's look was composed of "bobby sox, blouse with collar turned out, a sweater, string of pearls and always a pleated skirt." Today, Marilyn is swathed in a faux-leopard-skin shawl that is echoed by leopard-skin accents on her hat. Royce's own black fur chapeau matches the rest of her raven-hue ensemble. The two women live in an adjoining hotel that is a clean, well-lighted place by downtown standards, though a planet or two removed from, say, the Biltmore up on Olive Street. Wilshire, which Marilyn reverently refers to as "the big boulevard" and which has figured so many times in both their lives, dead-ends a few blocks away.

Marilyn is 5 feet 9 inches tall, large-boned and easygoing, while her Maroc-scented, wire-waisted friend stands 5 feet 4 and bristles with the steely self-confidence one acquires from working nearly half a century in fashion merchandising. "I know everyone in the rag business," Royce pronounces in the elongated, gravely accented vowels associated with breeding. "I went to work as a gift counselor and then bridal consultant in 1949 at J.W. Robinson's, which was on Seventh Street and owned by Mrs. Harry Robinson and the Schneiders, Carlos and Walter." When she speaks, her hands often flutter through the air in dramatic gestures. "Mrs. Robinson was exquisite -- a Beverly Hills socialite who would come in with her chauffeur, mink coats and her poodle, Happy."

Marilyn is a former schoolteacher and "executive housekeeper" whose good-time Ohio twang occasionally horns into her conversation -- which she says is a bit embarrassing, as her father was chairman of Wittenberg University's public-speaking department. Their stay at the hotel began some 11 years ago and has lasted far longer than either expected -- or wanted. Marilyn looks on the bright side, pointing out the proximity of Macy's and the exercise she gets from walking to nearby stores and her manicurist. Royce isn't so sanguine. "I'm 16th-generation back East," she is fond of saying. "I only exist here, it's not my territory."

The pair's exile is not just a matter of geography, though, it is one of time -- a time whose fashions and manners have been pulled out from beneath them by a nightmarish undertow called progress. "A man did not get into a restaurant without a suit and a tie," Royce laments of this vanished era, "nor a woman without a cocktail dress."

"Celebrities just don't dress up anymore," concedes the more accepting Marilyn.

 

MARILYN HOGGATT CAME TO LOS ANGELES IN 1958 AS AN elementary school teacher, having been lured from Colorado by the high salaries California was offering during the post-Sputnik education splurge. She taught fifth grade down in sleepy San Pedro but felt an urban excitement she had never experienced back in Ohio or Colorado. "California held such glamour for me," she says. "I was a professor's daughter who majored in speech and theater arts, but I had also been crazy about movies and was just besotted by the magnificent films of my youth. I wanted to see these places and some of the celebrities I'd read about all my life -- particularly the women, like Lana Turner and Ann Miller."

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  • 05/17/2012 2:01:00 AM

    Great Article!! Just discovered it!

  • 03/22/2012 1:38:00 PM

    R.I.P. Royce & Marilyn

  • Marilyn 01/21/2012 5:31:00 PM

    http://www.whitepages.com/name/Royce-Reed/Los-Angeles-CA/58hp83n?site_id=15277

  • Jdsalinger 09/26/2011 6:22:00 PM

    WTF. Why is there just a few clips? Where is the film/doc. It seems so strange that someone would just be sitting on this. Does anyone know who filmed this?

  • Richnoho 09/15/2011 5:54:00 PM

    Hollywood should stop with the revival tv shows of the 70's & find more of stories like these fabulously fierce dames

  • JamesinSF 08/01/2011 6:34:00 PM

    I agree disturbing but I can't stop watching the clips over and over.

  • Bennett 07/31/2011 1:35:00 AM

    I find this disturbing

  • Jackie Setin 07/19/2011 7:29:00 PM

    God on a wheel! Why isn't there more Royce?!!! a film! Gawd!!! I'm tired of New Jersey house wives and shit reality T.V. Where are the producers with integrity. Why is T.V such shit and Royce which is like a shimmering like a wallflower. Goes for the most part unknown. Fuck!

  • Audreymyers 07/09/2011 10:12:00 AM

    Where are they now?!!! why is there just a few clips?!!

  • Mycsanchez 05/31/2011 7:53:00 PM

    I want to know how they are doing...are they still in the same hotel? this article was written almost 12 years ago.

  • 05/22/2011 12:12:00 PM

    This is a great article. Thanks a lot for posting and keeping the site active, I read all the time!

  • Alicecrane 04/03/2011 10:45:00 AM

    Royce is God.

  • Phil neuberg 03/30/2011 2:21:00 AM

    Now there's only three ways!!!

  • Zandraellis 03/16/2011 11:57:00 AM

    "without elegance I can not live!!!!!!!" Long Live ROYCE!!!!

  • Corey bell 03/07/2011 1:25:00 PM

    amazing! Thanks for the insight on these two ladies.

  • CathyQuinn 03/04/2011 10:48:00 PM

    GAWD!

  • kanitha @ Paramount 02/27/2011 11:03:00 PM

    Word is there's a movie script running around ........ I would actually love to see the real thing as in a documentary. It's sort of weird that nothing has become of this... but perhaps that's a good thing. Who knows....

  • Judgebean 02/20/2011 8:16:00 PM

    Christ on a cracker!

  • Benfolds5 02/03/2011 3:33:00 PM

    God on a wheel? is there a documentary?

  • Bstanely3431 01/24/2011 7:03:00 PM

    Where is the fricken film!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anitajohnson 01/19/2011 6:37:00 PM

    I'm trying

  • Steve shore 11/25/2010 8:57:00 PM

    I happen to know that Hans Fjellestad has been documenting her life for the last three years. Film to follow

  • Richard shore 11/25/2010 8:53:00 PM

    I know for a fact that Hans Fjellestad has been documenting her life for the past three years. Film to follow

  • Diana Dennison 11/24/2010 4:41:00 AM

    I loved reading this article about Royce, whom I met in the washroom of the Beverly Wilshire (as did Marilyn). It was 1992 and she was wearing a large hat but not singing. I took a photo of her which I sent to her and I understand it is now on her Facebook page, after 18 years! I was visiting from Sydney, and have only just heard about her again thanks to Bill Geerhart who is documenting her life.

  • Peg V 10/27/2010 8:11:00 PM

    I too saw Royce sitting in a wheel chair on 6th and olive. She had a small stuffed cat in her hand. I approached her and she dismissed me. " Declasse " she said.

  • Joshua harris 10/25/2010 5:06:00 PM

    I saw Royce yesterday going down Broadway in a wheel chair being pushed by a young latina woman. I wanted to stop and say hello but lost my nerve. It definately was here because I walked close by and could hear her voice. Dahling...Oh...Hell.....And she was wearing a hat. Not a large hat but a hat from the Mod Squad era.

  • Royce Reed 10/18/2010 4:23:00 AM

    God on a Wheel!o

  • Mike Hewgepenis 10/16/2010 12:24:00 AM

    Some one stole the Make believe sign from Hanks!

  • tom gallo 08/24/2010 5:11:00 AM

    can anyone answer the main question being asked.. where are they now? are they aware of their internet fame? ..yes, what ever happened to Royce and Marylin? anyone wanna go try to find them at the make believe ballroom?

  • Kate Paz 05/25/2010 11:26:00 PM

    What happened to them? Are they still around?

  • chi chi 04/03/2010 3:06:00 AM

    I have to thank Lady Bunny for posting on her blog. I could watch these vids all day, are they still being fabulous? Reminds me of Big and Little Edie.

  • Asia Argento 08/08/2009 1:36:00 AM

    I know David lynch has spoke with her about a project.

  • Brad 06/06/2009 6:50:00 AM

    Agreed - they did not shoot the videos themselves. In one, you can clearly hear a man behind the camera ask Royce to sing. She looks at him and drops this gem: "Without an orchestra, how in the devil can one sing?" See also: twitter.com/RoyceReed for your daily dose of Royce-isms.

  • Eric Macnamara 04/22/2009 7:41:00 PM

    They didn't shoot this themselves. But, it is amazing in this time and age who ever did this doesn't come forward. Amazing

  • Gloria moskowitz 04/21/2009 8:43:00 AM

    I heard that they shot the video themselves. Someone showed them how to use the camera and that's that.

  • Gloria moskowitz 04/21/2009 8:42:00 AM

    I heard that they shot the video themselves. Someone showed them how to use the camera and that's that.

  • Roland 04/18/2009 11:50:00 AM

    Note this article was written in 1999 -- 10 years before the videos popped up on youtube and laweekly.com added a comments section. If anyone knows the answers, please post them here... Were the videos taken by the writer of this article? (At one point, we hear a man off-camera asking Royce to sing.) If not, who took them and when? And why does one video feature a giant rabbit on Royce's bed? Viewing the videos, it becomes almost obvious to conclude that Royce's elegant lifestyle was at least in part brought down by alcoholism. Of course, the ultimate question: Where Are They Now?

  • Jim M 03/25/2009 11:14:00 PM

    This article fails to shed any light on who these women are and where they came from. The writer kind of throws up his hands at all the different tales Royce offers. Couldn't he have performed some investigative journalism? Or was he more interested in moving on to the next story?

  • peggy R 03/25/2009 3:35:00 AM

    The great thing about the youtube clips is that they reveal a truth with out a filter of a commentary writer. I'm all for videos, it cuts through the trying to be and or do something for a result. There is too much commentary in the world

  • Daffy 03/24/2009 4:12:00 PM

    An interesting article, carefully designed to appeal to the voyeur in us all which has been carefully nourished by reality TV. A delusional fantasist and someone who has lived their lives in the shadows of fame. It's a sad story.

  • Daffy 03/24/2009 4:11:00 PM

    An interesting article, carefully designed to appeal to the voyeur in us all which has been carefully nourished by reality TV. A delusional fantasist and someone who has lived their lives in the shadows of fame. It's a sad story.

  • jenny 02/17/2009 12:04:00 AM

    Is there a movie on DVD? How do I get it?

  • Onell 02/16/2009 10:48:00 AM

    I was lead to this article after a post on Facebook with a link to the youube video. I was really intrigued about the story behind the video and the two ladies. would some one care to give me an update on them/

  • Michele Murphy 02/11/2009 10:35:00 PM

    I viewed a video of these woman on Face Book and I was immediatley captivated, I had to watch it again and again. I tracked down the original poster and he sent me a link to this article. I'm so glad it was here to fill in the blanks left by the short yet intrigueing clip. I'm not sure why or if it's even possible but I want more!!!

  • Michele Murphy 02/11/2009 10:35:00 PM

    I viewed a video of these woman on Face Book and I was immediatley captivated, I had to watch it again and again. I tracked down the original poster and he sent me a link to this article. I'm so glad it was here to fill in the blanks left by the short yet intrigueing clip. I'm not sure why or if it's even possible but I want more!!!

  • Michele Murphy 02/11/2009 10:34:00 PM

    I viewed a video of these woman on Face Book and I was immediatley captivated, I had to watch it again and again. I tracked down the original poster and he sent me a link to this article. I'm so glad it was here to fill in the blanks left by the short yet intrigueing clip. I'm not sure why or if it's even possible but I want more!!!

  • Dean 01/17/2009 1:54:00 AM

    Whatever happened to Royce and Marilyn?

 

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